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A Christian stand on refugees

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Sree Jan 30, 2017

As a Christian, I find nothing wrong in US accepting people of minority religion from Islamic nations. Many say as Christians we should support equality of all refugees etc. I have compassion for all refugees. But as a Christian refugee cannot have freedom of worship in all nations. They are persecuted in so many nations. As a Christian coming from a nation classified as hostile to Christians, I very much appreciate the freedom of worship that I have in USA which I cannot expect back home. Now as a Christian I also want my fellow brothers who are persecuted in Islamic nations to enjoy the same freedom that I have. If USA is willing to give preference to these persecuted Christians then I will support it. I find nothing unchristlike in this.

Galatians 6:10- Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to the family of faith.

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dolfan Jan 30, 2017

I want every Muslim we can peacefully accept into America to be here because here, statistically, they may stand a better chance of hearing the gospel.

Trump's ban makes sense in some ways. No Christian should fault another as being less Chirist-like for their views on Trump's ban.

No Christian should roll this over onto Jesus by saying "Jesus was a refugee". Jesus was the center of a manhunt. He was a child. His family returned home as soon as possible. That is incomparable to almost every instance of immigration from Muslim-majority nations. The immigrants to America from Muslim-majority nations are usually here for their own improvement in life and do not usually leave here permanently --- not a reason not to come, but certainly not being a refugee, especially if Jesus' childhood sojourn in Egypt is to be in any way analogous. I say that because the false piety among people who, sincerely or not, bring Jesus-to-Egypt as a consideration in the question of Christian support of Trump's ban.


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MrBillPro Jan 30, 2017

The word says we are to obey man's laws.

Submission to Civil Authorities (1 Peter 2:13-17)

13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.

15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

16 [Act] as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but [use it] as bondslaves of God. 17 Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

If you are coming here legally or have been issued a temporary pass by the Government, I'm all for you being here.

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TMK Jan 30, 2017

I agree Bill.

Trumps recent action has sparked a spate of posts on Facebook by people stating how their parents , grandparents etc immigrated to the US.

They seem to be trying to make a point but I am not sure what it is.

We in the US are all descended from immigrants or are immigrants ourselves. Long long ago I had relatives come over from Switzerland, Germany and holland. But they came through Ellis island via legal channels.

I know of no Trump supporter that is against LEGAL immigration. That would be sort of dumb based on what I wrote above. Part of legal immigration vetting is to try to make sure those coming in don't want to do us grievous bodily harm.

I don't understand why people disagree with that.

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Sree Jan 30, 2017

I think Dofan understood the exact problem I am discussing here. I have a person from my previous Church posting things like Christians should be ashamed of supporting the vetting and filtering of Refugees from Islamic nations. As a Christian I only rejoice that US has decided to give preference to refugees from Minority religions in Islamic nations.

Accepting refugees is a matter of national security concern. The officials are there to make right decisions regarding security concerns of USA. As a person living in USA is it my responsibility to submit to the decisions of authorities.

Now that the decision taken is in favor of Christians persecuted in Islamic nations, then I believe there is no harm in welcoming this move as a Christian.

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Sree Jan 30, 2017


I want every Muslim we can peacefully accept into America to be here because here, statistically, they may stand a better chance of hearing the gospel.

When it comes to Muslims hearing the Gospel or Christians surviving in Persecuted nations, I would choose persecuted Christians. What is guarantee that these Muslim refugees will accept Christ after tasting all goodness? But a Christian can at least get freedom to worship Jesus which is not there in Islamic nations.

sermonindex Jan 30, 2017

Submission to Civil Authorities (1 Peter 2:13-17)

13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.

15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

16 [Act] as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but [use it] as bondslaves of God. 17 Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

I wrote this short response to the new anglican group in north american (that does not support homosexuality in the Church): http://anglican.ink/article/acna-archbishop-issues-call-prayer-response-migrant-crisis

This is a clear message to respect the government authorities and pray for them (1 Timothy 2:2). And at the same time have the compassion for the poor, dis-advantaged as our Lord preached the gospel first to the poor (Luke 4:18). Leaders in the Church should address current issues from time to time to let us know how to practically be spiritual agents of change during these times.

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Sree Jan 30, 2017

Hi Greg,
I am totally in for submitting to government. But what about Christian rejoicing the current move of allowing only people of minority religion from Islamic nations? Is it not a victory for Persecuted Christians in Islamic nations? Can a Christian rejoice about this?

Though I have given an answer already, I am interested in knowing what other fellow brothers feel.

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dohzman Jan 31, 2017

Well??? For the last 8 years The Christian community in Islamic States have taken back seat to Islamic persons, last I read it was like only 8% of Christians were accepted. I think most of the media and politicians not only here in the US but also around the world are like blind leaders of the blind and they run to what ever there is in current events that will get them free media spotlighting, that way they can tell thier folks back home that they are doing something when they are really just making an empty noise. A good picture would be that of a boat sinking because of a hole in it. It is foolhardy to continue baling water...you must first fix the hole, than you can deal with the water it has taken in, in the same way a "temporary" ban is safe for The US to at least give them a chance to put into place safe guards to vet and or track refuges. And this is just looking at this vast issue from a security stand point.

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Man0fG0d Feb 1, 2017

As a christian, I whole heartedly support the vetting for refugees. As well as the travel ban, the bible says to be wise as a servant and harmless as a dove. The bible says cast not your pearls before swine.

I'm reminded of the story of the good samartian. The Samaritan helped the man in need the best that he could, but he also did not take the man into his own house. Just a thought. Blessings.

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Sree Feb 1, 2017


I'm reminded of the story of the good samartian. The Samaritan helped the man in need the best that he could, but he also did not take the man into his own house. Just a thought. Blessings.

That is really funny. Never thought about it this way!

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Sree Feb 1, 2017

I am not sure why most of you are not addressing the 2nd part of my question. Can a Christian support the preference given by US to refugees of minority religion? I believe we should.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Feb 1, 2017

I believe that it is possible to support refugees while disagreeing with the refugees' religion. However, the issue here is about national immigration policy as it relates to potential immigrants and travelers from areas prone to violence or radicalism.

This isn't just about terrorism or links to terrorist groups. It is about ideology that is prevalent in many Islamic nations -- like those targeted by this temporary moratorium on travel.

This ideology includes things like the killing of girls and women for reasons of honor, killing for the cause of Islam, capital punishment for conversion away from Islam, forced adherence to the burka/hijab, forced marriages for underage girls arranged by parents, preeminence of Islamic Sharia law over a nation's laws, conspiracy theories about Jews, etc.

These things are very prevalent in many of these targeted countries. Pew Research and other polling organizations have done extensive polling into the beliefs of Muslims around the world. While a majority might not favor some of these things, very large percentages of the populations of many countries -- including a majority in some of them -- embrace some of these very radical and often violent beliefs. These things are incompatible with a free society.

Simply put: This is a temporary moratorium on travel between those seven countries and the United States until a better system for vetting travelers is implemented.

This weekend, the DNC released talking points -- ranging from labeling this law "racism" and "bigotry" to questioning why Saudi Arabia isn't on the list (as if they wanted to widen the list of countries) -- and activists and the mainstream media has done what it can to repeat those things (often verbatim).

Ironically, the media has ignored the fact that previous administrations have placed travel bans with certain countries (including the ones on this list). They've even ignored the fact that Christians have been persecuted in great numbers throughout the Middle East and, yet, weren't welcomed as refugees in this nation.

There is a very interesting National Geographic documentary about the genocide in Sudan that began during the Clinton Administration in the 1990's. While the conflict in Bosnia received so much attention, Christians in Sudan were being annihilated by Muslims. About a million people were killed. Others were raped, tortured or enslaved. The U.S. waited for years on the U.N. to agree on a definition of "genocide" to decide whether or not the hundreds of thousands of non-Muslims being slaughtered constituted an official "genocide."

So, America did nothing. Many of the refugees fled to neighboring countries where they were forced to live in camps for many years. Some of the survivors were called the "Lost Boys of Sudan."

When Bush became president, Secretary of State Colin Powell ignored the United Nations and called this situation "genocide." Many of these refugees were finally welcomed into countries that would accept them -- and the United States was one of the few countries that did.

The documentary is entitled "God Grew Tired of Us." The title comes from something that a young refugee named John Dau said -- that the people felt that the end of the all things was imminent because God may have grown tired of men. The documentary follows a handful of these young men from the camp and their journey into the United States. Many of these young men had never used things like electricity. Most of them lived in huts in the refugee camps. Their integration into the United States was difficult too. I noticed that those who kept their faith are the ones who have thrived and are making a difference in helping others from Sudan and sharing the Gospel with them.

The documentary is available online and even on YouTube. It is called "God Grew Tired of Us."

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