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Faith Tested By Fire by Zac Poonen

sermonindex Apr 21, 2017

Apostle Peter says in 1 Peter that, all the trials that we go through on earth are only, "for a little while” (1 Peter 1:6). From the standpoint of eternity, even 100 years is only a little while. This eternal perspective is what we must always have in the midst of our trials. All the apostles had this perspective. James refers to our life as a vapour (James 4:14). Paul refers to "our momentary affliction” (2 Corinthians 4:17). Remember that the theme of 1 Peter is the true grace of God. So one of the first things we understand here is that it is perfectly normal for those who receive the true grace of God to be distressed by various types of trials.

The purpose of those trials is to prove the genuineness of your faith ”“ like "gold tested in the fire”. When gold is dug from the depths of the earth it is not pure. The only way to purify it is by putting it into the fire. You can’t purify gold by scrubbing it with soap and water. That only removes the dirt. But to remove the metals that are mixed in the gold, it has to be put into the fire. Then all the alloys in it are melted away and the pure gold comes forth. The trials you go through can be fiery. It hurts, and you feel as if you are in the fire. The only purpose is to get rid of things in your life that are impure. For example, in countries, where Christians were persecuted and their property was taken away, what was the result? They became better pilgrims. They became less attached to their property because now they had nothing. But where there is no persecution, even the best of believers can be very attached to their property and their possessions. We may imagine we are not attached to them, but we are deceiving ourselves. And so, God may allow persecution to come in our land one day ”“ and then we will be purified.

When the Communists ruled Russia, I have heard that Christians could not get a college education or good jobs. They could only get lowly jobs like cleaning the streets. In such situations, we easily get detached from the honour and sense of importance that comes from having high positions and big jobs. All the scum from the gold is burnt away, and we become really pure. That’s why it is in places where there is persecution today that you have some of the finest Christians in the world. And that is why I never pray that there should be no persecution of Christians ”“ because then I would be praying against the purification of the church. I don’t pray for persecution, but I don’t pray against it either. The Lord knows what is best for the church at any time. So I leave it to Him to decide. Either way is equally fine with me. This will be our attitude when we receive the true grace of God.

Peter goes on to say that all this will result in bringing much praise and glory and honour to Christ when He returns. In the midst of these trials, even though we don’t see Jesus, we still love Him, trust Him and rejoice with great joy. Peter had seen Jesus physically. But Jesus said, "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe” (John 20:29). I don’t know how many of you believe that verse ”“ that, we who have not seen Jesus physically are more blessed than those like Peter, who saw Him physically. I believe that with all my heart, because Jesus said so. Peter goes on to say that as a result of going through trials faithfully, we receive "the salvation of our souls” (1 Peter1:9). The apostles spoke about the salvation of our souls more than salvation from hell.

Our soul has inherited selfishness and pride and many other evils from Adam. We need to be saved from all the evil that we have inherited from Adam ”“ such as our attachment to material things, our love of honour, and our self-centred way of life. Fiery trials and persecution help greatly in delivering us from many evils.

Think of the trial of having a mentally-challenged child. Some people think of that as a great misfortune. None of us would pray to have such children. But if God allows a family that loves Him to have such a child, we can be sure that God will make it work for their good. I have noticed in families that have such children, that there is a tenderness and a spirit of sacrifice and service among the other children more than in other families. Very often, there is a pride that comes unconsciously into the hearts of parents whose children are all smart and capable. Pride does not belong to heaven; it belongs to hell. But, unfortunately pride is found in the families of many believers.

God allows all His children to face trials. In His great wisdom, He knows exactly when to send them. When we stand before the Lord, we will discover that God never made a single mistake in any of the trials He allowed in our lives. Every single trial He allowed in our lives, we will discover in that day, was to purify us as gold. If you believe that, you will praise the Lord at all times. You will have inexpressible joy in the midst of your trials ”“ and that will result in the salvation of your soul. This is the salvation that the prophets in past times sought to understand, but could not. Even the angels long to look into this (1 Peter1:12). But now the Holy Spirit sent from heaven has anointed people who preach this gospel. So, Peter says, since we have such a wonderful gospel, and we have to go through these trials only for a short period, we should sharpen our minds looking forward to the coming of Christ and not be disturbed by the trials that we face (1 Peter 1:13).

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EAGLEFLYING Apr 22, 2017

Amen excellent post.
The purpose of those trials is to prove the genuineness of your faith ”“ like "gold tested in the fire”. When gold is dug from the depths of the earth it is not pure. The only way to purify it is by putting it into the fire. You can’t purify gold by scrubbing it with soap and water. That only removes the dirt. But to remove the metals that are mixed in the gold, it has to be put into the fire. Then all the alloys in it are melted away and the pure gold comes forth. The trials you go through can be fiery. It hurts, and you feel as if you are in the fire. The only purpose is to get rid of things in your life that are impure. For example, in countries, where Christians were persecuted and their property was taken away, what was the result? They became better pilgrims. They became less attached to their property because now they had nothing. But where there is no persecution, even the best of believers can be very attached to their property and their possessions. We may imagine we are not attached to them, but we are deceiving ourselves. And so, God may allow persecution to come in our land one day ”“ and then we will be purified.

WE can burn now.. or burn later.. I prefer to burn now...
Job 23:1010 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.
Sister Frannie

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rbanks Apr 22, 2017

Very good message in this article by Zac Poonen!

I thought of something sister Frannie said:

Sister Frannie writes....

"They became less attached to their property because now they had nothing. But where there is no persecution, even the best of believers can be very attached to their property and their possessions. We may imagine we are not attached to them, but we are deceiving ourselves."


Yes...this can be true to even a Christian who truly loves the Lord! But there is also a big problem in the USA of not trying to do better or have anything so that one doesn't have to depend on the government or others to always give them the things that they need and want!

Feeling like you love the Lord more because you don't have anything of value in this world can also be a fallacy because it could be that you were lazy, irresponsible, and didn't use the opportunity or ability God gave you.

So not be attached to something of the world because you don't have it....is not as important as not being attached to something of this world that one does have but can let it go at anytime the Lord wants.

Blessings,
rbanks


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leyoung Apr 22, 2017

Amen bros and sisters,

The Apostle Paul faced baptisms of fire many times but he encouraged us not worry about the state we found ourselves in for God is our strength and our provision if we but keep our eyes fixed on the goal.

"... for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. ' Philippians 4:11-12
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sermonindex Apr 22, 2017

Feeling like you love the Lord more because you don't have anything of value in this world can also be a fallacy because it could be that you were lazy, irresponsible, and didn't use the opportunity or ability God gave you.

So not be attached to something of the world because you don't have it....is not as important as not being attached to something of this world that one does have but can let it go at anytime the Lord wants.

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Bro odd test of spirituality. You saying that if one is blessed abundantly in the American life. And that person can let go of these possessions. He is more spiritual than the one who has practically nothing and is living under the shadow of the cross.

I pray for brothers and sisters in places like North Korea and Eritrea, who have virtually nothing. They are not blessed with an abundant lifestyle. They have practically nothing but Jesus himself. So are these brothers and sisters lazy and irresponsible?

And what of those who purposely choose to live in simplicity and purity of devotion before Christ? They choose what one would call a minimal lifestyle being content with only the basics of food and covering. Are these believers also lazy and irresponsible?

Can you please elaborate on your above remark? For it is puzzling to me.

Bro Blaine

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rbanks Apr 22, 2017

Blessings to you brother Blaine!

Not looking for any argument...I live in the USA and many have problems here...but nothing like the persecution that many Christians experience in other countries. Many people in the USA bring so many problems upon themselves because of their irresponsibility and lack of faith and obedience to God. I was implying only to those to whom it fits...not at all would I ever want to put down those who are being persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ our wonderful Lord!


2 Thessalonians 3:6-15

Warning Against Idleness
6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. 13 And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good.
14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed. 15 Yet do not regard them as an enemy, but warn them as you would a fellow believer.

Blessings,
rbanks

sermonindex Apr 22, 2017

Got you bro. Was not trying to provoke an argument but simply seeking clarification. Understand now what you were getting at.

I do agree with you that some brothers and sisters bring a lot on themselves by being irresponsible. And then try to pass it off as a soiritual attribute. Paul did command us that even in these end times we are to keep working if we are to keep eating. And even that we should work so that we might share with those who have need.

Thank you for reminding us brother that we need to be balanced.

Bro Blaine

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rbanks Apr 22, 2017

Amen brother Blaine!

"And even that we should work so that we might share with those who have need."
-quote- Blaine

Also Blaine, thank you for your labor for the body of Christ...for your prayers, love, and support to the persecuted brethren that are suffering so terribly for just being a Christian. I pray sometimes that God will fill the christian that is being so terribly persecuted with so much power from the Holy Ghost that they will feel an overwhelming joy and strength that causes them to triumph over it in such a way that it causes even their enemies to take notice and get saved themselves. I've heard of this happening in places and pray that it will happen even more!

Even so come Lord Jesus! I pray that I remain faithful!

Blessings,
rbanks

sermonindex Apr 22, 2017

So agree my brother. So agree . Truly may we be faithful until the end. Thus we say Maranatha, Lord Jesus. Come quickly.

Bro Blaine

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