2 Thessalonians 2New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Apostasy
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The reason I have been studying this passage recently is because the passage directly links the apostasy to the antichrists appearing.
The word apostasy is not to do with the rapture as Dr Thomas Ice says.
ἀποστασία (apostasia) ”” 1 Occurrence
2 Thessalonians 2:3 N-NFS
GRK: ἔλθῃ ἡ ἀποστασία Ï€Ïῶτον καὶ
NAS: you, for [it will not come] unless the apostasy comes
KJV: there come a falling away first,
INT: shall have come the apostasy first and
I looked in the Septugient
Joshua22:22
21 And the sons of Ruben, and the sons of Gad, and the half tribe of Manasse answered, and spoke to the captains of the thousands of Israel, saying,
22 God God is the Lord, and God God himself knows, and Israel he shall know; if we have transgressed before the Lord by apostasy, let him not deliver us this day.
Chronicles II 29
15 And they gathered their brethren, and they purified themselves according to the king's command by the order of the Lord, to purify the house of the Lord.
16 And the priests entered into the house of the Lord, to purify , and they cast out all the uncleanness that was found in the house of the Lord, even into the court of the house of the Lord: and the Levites received to cast into the brook of Kedron without.
17 And began on the first day, on the new moon of the first month, to purify, and on the eighth day of the month they entered into the temple of the Lord: and they purified the house of the Lord in eight days; and on the thirteenth day of the first month they finished .
18 And they went in to king Ezekias, and said, We have purified all the things in the house of the Lord, the altar of whole-burnt-offering, and its vessels, and the table of shew-bread, and its vessels;
19 and all the vessels which king Achaz polluted in his reign, in his apostasy, we have prepared and purified: behold, they are before the altar of the Lord.
Jeremiah 2:19
19 Thine apostasy shall correct thee, and thy wickedness shall reprove thee: know then, and see, that thy forsaking me bitter to thee, saith the Lord thy God; and I have taken no pleasure in thee, saith the Lord thy God.
20 For of old thou hast broken thy yoke, and plucked asunder thy bands; and thou has said, I will not serve thee, but will go upon every high hill, and under every shady tree, there will I indulge in my fornication.
Justin Martyr
The distinction to be made between the righteous and the wicked. The future apostasy in the time of Antichrist, and the end of the world 1. Inasmuch, then, as in this world (aioni) some persons betake themselves to the light, and by faith unite themselves with God, but others shun the light, and separate themselves from God, the Word of God comes preparing a fit habitation for both. For those indeed who are in the light, that they may derive enjoyment from it, and from the good things contained in it; but for those in darkness, that they may partake in its calamities. And on this account He says, that those upon the right hand are called into the kingdom of heaven, but that those on the left He will send into eternal fire for they have deprived themselves of all good. 2. And for this reason the apostle says: "Because they received not the love of God, that they might be saved, therefore God shall also send them the operation of error, that they may believe a lie, that they all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but consented to unrighteousness.” For when he (Antichrist) is come, and of his own accord concentrates in his own person the apostasy, and accomplishes whatever he shall do according to his own will and choice, sitting also in the temple of God, so that his dupes may adore him as the Christ; wherefore also shall he deservedly "be cast into the lake of fire:” [this will happen according to divine appointment], God by His prescience foreseeing all this, and at the proper time sending such a
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Chapter XXIX All things have been created for the service of man. The deceits, wickedness, and apostate power of Antichrist. This was prefigured at the deluge, as afterwards by the persecution of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego 1. In the previous books I have set forth the causes for which God permitted these things to be made, and have pointed out that all such have been created for the benefit of that human nature which is saved, ripening for immortality that which is [possessed] of its own free will and its own power, and preparing and rendering it more adapted for eternal subjection to God. And therefore the creation is suited to [the wants of] man; for man was not made for its sake, but creation for the sake of man. Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons "as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance”” in fact, as nothing;” so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, "There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.” For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when
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I was interesting to see as the direct link between the apostasy and the church and the coming of the AntiChrist.
1. This does not mean I know who the Antichrist is
2. The apostasy in the church will have to get worse
The other aspect that I have been looking up is the Third Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGOP4AU_zOQ
Third Temple showed up on Google Maps and then was taken down
Tisha b'Av: The Third Holy Temple Plans Have Begun
https://youtu.be/A2IkxmwkayM
Anybody who is worried about the Archaology whether the Temple Mount is the Right area recently
Archaeologists restore ancient tiles from Second Temple in Jerusalem
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Archeologists-restore-tiles-from-Second-Temple-in-Jerusalem-467021
Jerusalem Tunnel Reveals Remarkable Artifacts
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/jerusalem-tunnel-reveals-remarkable-artifacts/
The Bible talks about
Daniel 9:27 NIV
http://www.biblestudytools.com/daniel/9-27.html
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. ”
Matthew 24 NKJV
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand),
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house.
18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes.
I always remember Keith Daniels preaching about this subject in Scotland up in Greenock when he was preaching he says that all the Earthquakes and other things culminates in the Abomination of Desolation, The third Temple.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 NKJV
http://www.biblestudytools.com/nkjv/2-thessalonians/2-4.html
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
Some people refer to this as the church but this cannot be as the historical context does not fit.
I have studied Jewish Apologetics and Maimondes says that there coming Messiah will build the Third Temple, I do not believe this!
MISHNEH TORAH:
Hilchot Melachim
Laws Concerning Kings
"Chapter XI
1. The Messianic King will arise in the future and restore the Davidic Kingdom to its former state and original sovereignty. He will build the Sanctuary1 and gather the dispersed of Israel.2 All the laws will be re-instituted in his days as they had been aforetimes;3 sacrifices will be offered, and the Sabbatical years and Jubilee years will be observed4 fully as ordained by the Torah.5
Anyone who does not believe in [Mashiach], or whoever does not look forward to his coming,6 denies not only [the teachings of] the other prophets but [also those] of the Torah and of Moses our Teacher. For the Torah attested to him, as it is said:"
The difference is vast compared to say the Dead Sea Scroll Expectation of Jesus in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I could go to other sources such as Anti Christian Missionaries such as Tovia Singer who believes the Messiah will build the Third Temple
What Will the Messiah do in the Third Temple? Rabbi Tovia Singer’s Answer might surprise you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nccgvYFOw7k
The other scary thing is that according to Israeli News Live
Rome Lays Ground Work For Third Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC5WjAWohl4
Muslim Cleric Reveals Location For Third Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60YwaUQIa3U
Turkey Claims They Will Build The Third Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjKUyr1Z1FM
Whether this is in ten years or two this is prophesied in scripture.
I have doubt made some errors here and would love to be pointed out where I have failed in exegesis.
What is interesting is in one of the videos, a cleric from the Al Alsqa mosque states that Muslims have no problem with a third temple and then a Imam from turkey says the same thing which is shocking when you know when the Quran calls Jews Pigs and Apes
Did Allah transform Jews into apes and pigs?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/jew_apes.htm
Yet Jews have no problems with Islam
Jews in the Early Islamic Period (Essential Lectures in Jewish History) Dr. Henry Abramson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_yXWbbVTt8
As both Islam and Judaism are Monotheistic
Why should a religion like Islam have a problem with the Third Temple being built on the Temple Mount
There is a discussion whether they will build on the Temple Mount
BOB MITCHELL'S PROPHECY UPDATE: BOB CORNUKE: THE TRUE LOCATION OF THE JERUSALEM TEMPLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq7L844qfsI
Temple: Amazing New Discoveries That Change Everything about the Location of Solomon's Temple by Bob Cornuke
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Temple-Discoveries-Everything-Location-Solomons/dp/193977909X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494261872&sr=8-1&keywords=Bob+cornuke+temple
but then there is Randall Prices book who argues
The Temple and Bible Prophecy: A Definitive Look at Its Past, Present, and Future
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Temple-Bible-Prophecy-Definitive-Present-x/dp/0736913874/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1494261960&sr=1-2&keywords=randall+price++temple
Randall Price: Rebuilding the Temple (October 1, 2012)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFJaGgWkJk
There is even looking for the Ark of the Covenant by an Atheistic Israeli Jewish Scholar who does not even believe in the Ark of the covenant
Israel Fiklestein
http://www.timesofisrael.com/archaeologists-to-break-ground-at-biblical-site-where-ark-of-the-covenant-stood/
The scary thing is that the abomination of desolation is on us, it does not mean it is imminent
Questions that I ask
How do we know the great Apostasy from an ordinary apostasy ?
How will we know when the Antichrist will be revealed ?
When will the book of Revelation become a practical book?
Will there be a fake Pre tribulation rapture?
What do you think of this if you believe in this.
The interfaith movement is here
Baptists Together Interfaith
http://www.baptist.org.uk/Groups/220648
/Inter_Faith_Engagement.aspx
Anglicans Interfaith
http://www.anglicancommunion.org/relationships/interfaith-dialogues.aspx
URC Church
http://www.urc.org.uk/mission/interfaith-relations.html
Methodists Churches Interfaith
http://www.methodist.org.uk/mission/inter-faith-relations
Salvation Army Interfaith
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/ecumenical
Then we have the New Apostolic Reformation Movement
https://audioboom.com/posts/5032331-new-apostolic-reformation-101
Word of Faith Movement
(231) Justin Peters: Clouds without water - False prophets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8aIS-dhU-s&list=PL4S19ubs2BxciWRGsjzz1DMuY7y9CYPJb
Pope Francis Joins Lecrae, Hillsong at Historic 1 Million-Strong 'Together 2016' DC Event
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-joins-lecrae-hillsong-historic-1-million-strong-together-2016-dc-event-164925/#Oiguxf0dalJKg9G3.99
I am not a sensationalist I believe in the gifts!
Pope To Copeland: Catholics And Charismatics Must Spiritually Unite
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/14.01.21-pope-to-copeland-catholics-and-charismatics-must-spiritually-unite
What is interesting is that
Then the pope with his interfaith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq7us5Lf5IU
Pope plans Pentecost celebrations with charismatics and Pentecostals
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2017/05/02/pope-plans-pentecost-celebrations-charismatics-pentecostals/
Canon Andrew White Letter to Joint Faiths Celebration
http://www.uk.upf.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=223:letters-to-the-joint-celebration-of-holy-events-of-the-three-faiths-of-abraham&catid=58:interfaith&Itemid=107
Basically most of the church is in apostasy but most of the church isnt such as the people in sermonindex and many people around the world
I want to flee the Ecumenical Movement ! I want jesus and his presence and to know Gods word and a true revival