Seven year Peace Treaty Israel

deltadom May 24, 2017

Daniel 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Luke 16:15
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_peace_process#Abbas.27_peace_plan

4.1 UN resolution 242 and the recognition of Palestinian rights
4.2 PLO acceptance of two-state solution
4.3 Madrid (1991”“93)
4.4 Oslo (1993”“)
4.5 1996”“99 agreements
4.5.1 Hebron agreement
4.5.2 Wye River Memorandum
4.6 Camp David 2000 Summit
4.7 Clinton's "Parameters" and the Taba talks
4.8 Beirut summit
4.9 The "Road Map" for peace
4.10 Israeli”“Palestinian talks in 2007 and 2009
4.11 2010 direct talks
4.12 2013”“14 talks
4.13 Abbas' peace plan

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace

In Israel we know that the only man who can bring peace to Israel is Jesus when he returns in his second coming, We know that from scripture that the only person who can truly bring peace to Israel is Jesus

In the scriptures it talks about the Anti Christ bringing a seven year peace treaty in Israel in scripture it does not talk about exactly will it happen in the European Union or will it happen in America.

2 Thessalonians 2New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Apostasy

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin~~[b]~~ is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Stand Fast

13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work.

My interesting question is the bible talks about a great apostasy that will reveal the Antichrist and

There has been so many peace treaties that have failed because of the Quran.

7:166 But when even after this they disdainfully persisted in that from which they were forbidden, We said to them, "Become apes””despised and disgraced!

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/jew_apes.htm

The Quran calls Jews Pigs and Apes.

https://www.palwatch.org/
Most Palestines do not believe in the existence of Israel

The word Palestine was a made up name, the name from Emporer Hadrian

After crushing the Bar Kokhba revolt, the Roman Emperor Hadrian applied the name Syria Palestina to the entire region, that had formerly included Judea province. Hadrian probably chose a name that revived the ancient name of Philistia (Palestine), combining it with that of the neighboring province of Syria, in an attempt to suppress Jewish connection to the land, although the actual Philistines from which the name derives had disappeared from history during the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911-605 BC).[4][7][8] The city of Aelia Capitolina was built by the emperor Hadrian on the ruins of Jerusalem. The capital of the enlarged province remained in Antiochia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Palaestina#History

Paul Wilkerson Book
Understanding Christian Zionism: Israel's Place in the Purposes of God
It is worthwhile reading this book
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Christian-Zionism-Israels-Purposes/dp/1928660851/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1495657834&sr=1-3

He states the first Palestine newspaper was Jewish and so was the orchestra

Most Arab Palestine's believe in the complete annihilation of Israel not all as some Christian Arabs do not

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-maps-omitting-israel

They do not believe in the existense of Israel despite the archaology in places like Hebron, bethlehem

Ancient Tel Hebron- The Tombs of Jesse and Ruth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPc2fBlbJR8

I could do a whole post just on the Archaeology say in the Golan Heights that is Jewish and underneath the Temple Mount, It is Ironic cause the so called west bank area , Judea and Samaria is more Jewish than any other area. It belongs to Israel.

There is an entire temple in Samaria and then you have the remnants from the time of Elijah including things like a seal from the time of Jezebel.

In Gigal you have the 12 stones from the time of the Exodus and then is a treasure of riches from the bible in the so called West bank region , Judea and Samaria.

The biblical land of Israel was massive and noone has stretched to Nile to Euphrates

Genesis 15:18”“21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1”“15 or Ezekiel 47:13”“20.

The bible area of Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

even during the time of Soloman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(united_monarchy)
It was massive

My interesting thing is how is the seven year peace treaty going to play out, How will we know that it is the actual treaty as there have been so many treaties in the past?

My questions have been we know say the seven seals or say the seven trumpets in Revelation, How will we know what is true and what is false?

Recently Jared Kushner has been given charge over the Israeli Peace Process

This does not mean a thing as many have failed !

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/05/23/if-jared-kushner-has-plan-solve-arab-israeli-conflict-its-secret/22105426/

How will we know when it happens

savannah May 25, 2017

deltadom says,

"In the scriptures it talks about the Anti Christ bringing a seven year peace treaty in Israel in scripture it does not talk about exactly will it happen in the European Union or will it happen in America."

But the Scriptures say no such thing!

Daniel 9:27, "He shall confirm the covenant with many.” The word "many” refers to those who would believe on Christ as their Lord and Savior. His disciples first believed, then many Jews in Israel believed, and later Gentiles also accepted Him as Messiah. According to Matthew 26:28, the blood of the New Testament was shed for many for the remission of sins and Matthew 20:28 says, "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.” The Bible says in Luke 1:16, "And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God,” and in Isaiah 53:11, "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.” Other Scriptures using the word "many” are Luke 2:34 and Romans 5:17-21. This covenant will be made with many for "one week” according to our text, that is, seven years. This week does not refer to the duration of the covenant but to the time when it was confirmed. It was during these seven years that the covenant was confirmed and that many Jews were brought into the kingdom of God. After this week, the gospel begins to go to the Gentile world. Now, in the midst of this week, he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. It was in the 70th week that Christ died on the cross for our sins. According to verse 26, it was after the 69th week that Messiah was cut off. After the 69th week is the 70th week. The first half of the 70th week was the length of our Lord’s ministry. According to the book of John, there are four Passovers that occurred during our Lord’s ministry, which helps us in understanding the length of it (John 2:13, 5:1, 6:9, and 13:1). The words "cut off” in verse 26, clearly refers to the death of Jesus Christ according to Isaiah 53:8. This expression is used in other places in the Scriptures to indicate a violent death and is used in reference to the death penalty (Psalm 37:9, Exodus 12:19, 30:33,38, Leviticus 7:20, 18:19 and 20:17).

In the midst of the week, He would cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease, that is, He put an end to all the Old Testament sacrifices, Hebrews 7:27, "Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.” By the perfect sacrifice of Messiah, the Levitical sacrifices came to an end. The old covenant gave way to the new covenant. Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, offered Himself as the final sacrifice, which caused the animal sacrifice to cease (Hebrews 8:7-13. 9:11-15, 10:10-14). These sacrifices ceased to be legitimate in the eyes of God even though many of the Jews continued to offer them in the temple. Even the veil of the temple was rent from the top to bottom, signifying the end of the old and showing a new and living way (Hebrews 10:19-22). Again, the sacrifices ended at Calvary when Messiah became the final sacrifice, "Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses” (Acts 13:38-39). The rest of verse 27 has to do with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in A.D. 70, ". . .and for the over spreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consumation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” Even though this did not happen during the 70th week, it is still the consequences of the rejection of Messiah during the 70th week. Even though this part of the prophecy was not dated, nor included in the 70th week, we clearly see its fulfillment in A.D. 70. It occurred later as a result of Israel's rejection of Messiah. The crucifixion of Christ is the cause of the desolation of Jerusalem and the temple. In verse 26, there is also a description of the desolation. When it speaks of the destruction of the city and the sanctuary, it says the end thereof shall be with a flood. The word "flood” is a figure often used for an invading army that would overflow the land (Isaiah 59:19, Revelation 12:15-16). The word "war” in verse 26 shows the war of the Jews with the Romans which was very long and bloody. The words "desolations are determined” also show the destruction of the city and temple. "The overspreading of abominations” of verse 27 is referring to the same thing, that is, the Roman armies overspreading the city to make it desolate. These armies would totally destroy it until the "consummation” or complete destruction. In other words, the Roman armies would not stop until there was a complete destruction as Jesus said, "One stone shall not be left upon another that shall not be thrown down” (Matthew 24:2).

The Lord Jesus Christ spoke also in Mathew 24:15 about the abomination of desolation, spoken by Daniel, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).” The abomination of desolation is the Roman army that brought the desolation upon the city, temple, and people in A.D. 70. The Lord clearly gives us the interpretation concerning these abominations that would make desolate in Daniel 9:27. It is not an idol to be placed in the Holy of Holies of a rebuilt temple by the Antichrist. The abomination was the pagan Roman armies and the desolation was the destruction of the city and temple. An idol can be an abomination but it cannot make desolate because it is powerless. According to Matthew 24:15, the abomination of desolation is the only sign given whereby the believers were to flee from the city. "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).” Parallel passages to Matthew 24 are Mark 13 and Luke 21. In Mark 13:14, the same expression is used as in Matthew, the abomination of desolation. But, in Luke 21:20, it refers to Jerusalem being compassed with armies, then he speaks of the desolation of the city and sanctuary by this invading army, "And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” According to Luke 21:20-22, they were to flee for their lives when they saw the enemy surround the city. In Luke 19:43, it says, "For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side.” This is why the Lord said in Matthew 23:38, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate,” and in verse 36, "All these things shall come upon this generation.” The generation of Christ’s day would see these things come to pass for it was this generation that crucified the Son of God (Matthew 23:34-39). All of these verses are connected with the Olivet Discourse.

In Matthew 24:1-2, Jesus spoke of the temple and said, "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” In verse 3, the disciples asked the question, "When shall these things be?” It was the temple that was standing in Jerusalem at that time that they asked about and not a rebuilt temple 2000 years in the future. The primary question in Matthew 24:3 is about the destruction of the temple and, in addition to that, they ask the Lord about the sign of His coming and the end of the world. Please consider all three parallel passages of the Olivet Discourse concerning the question, Matthew 24:3, "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”; Mark 13:4, "Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?”; and Luke 21:7, "And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?” The words "these things,” in reference to the destruction of the temple, are mentioned five times in these three verses.

Again, the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel had to do with the destruction of the city of Jerusalem and the temple. This was the sign given to the believers to flee in order to escape the judgment of God. This judgment is called "great tribulation” in Matthew 24:21, "affliction” in Mark 13:19, "days of vengeance” in Luke 21:22, "great distress” and "wrath” in Luke 21:23. When they would see the abomination of desolation stand in the Holy Place, the believers were to flee according to Matthew 24:15-22. In Luke 21:20-21, it says, "When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies. . . flee to the mountains. . . for then ye know that the desolation thereof is nigh”. The Holy place that the abomination of desolation shall stand has to do with Jerusalem and any part of the land of Israel (Matthew 27:53, Daniel 9:16). It was the Romans that planted their standard in the place that was Holy. It was the Romans that brought Jerusalem and the temple to desolation. The Romans would stand against the Jews to destroy them, Luke 19:43-44, "For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.” In Luke 23:23-33, the Lord spoke of their judgment. The apostle Paul said that wrath had come upon Israel to the uttermost, I Thessalonians 2:16, "Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.” When the people said in Matthew 27:25, "His blood be on us, and on our children,” this literally came to pass in A.D. 70. In Matthew 24:4-14, the Lord gave a list of things that would happen before the city and temple would be destroyed. He mentions wars, rumors of wars, famines, pestilence, earthquakes, and persecutions. He also lists the fact that false christs shall come, but He says the end is not yet in verse 6. All of this is just the beginning of sorrows according to verse 8. Again, the sign to be given before the city and temple was to be destroyed was the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy place. The siege of Jerusalem was a long and bloody war. Over one million people were killed and thousands were taken captive and sold as slaves. It is said by historians that not one Christian perished in the desolation, for they heeded the Lord’s warning and fled for their lives. The seventy weeks of Daniel is history. It is a great prophecy fulfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
Robert Reed

The word "covenant” is used 280 times in the Old Testament and not once does it ever speak of Antichrist making a covenant with anybody. Many take Isaiah 28:18 and say this is the Antichrist’s treaty with Israel, but the text reveals that it is Hezekiah’s treaty with Egypt. The entire New Testament is confirmation of the new covenant and especially the book of Hebrews

deltadom May 25, 2017

savannah are you a historicist. Please read the rest of what I said rather than just one quote! I am still your brother in Christ!

There is a problem with this hermeneutic. It does not fit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(AD_70)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

I also mentioned another siege which was the siege of AD 132
which fall of Jerusalem are you talking about ?

Matt 24

24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

In the southern section of Jerusalem you have the Southern Steps of Jerusalem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xcejS6xp9c&index=22&list=PLziUyIPw8DfsaFwXgHMV32yWec5iuouyL

He says, "And for one week he will make a covenant with many, and it will be that in the midst of the week, my sacrifice and oblation will cease.” By "one week,” therefore, he meant the last week that is to be at the end of the whole world. In that week, the two prophets, Enoch and Elijah, will take up the half. For they will preach 1260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations. Hippolytus (c. 200, W), 5.213.

Bercot, David W., editor. Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs (Kindle Locations 7246-7250). Hendrickson Pub. Kindle Edition.

Matt 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Jesus says let no man deceive you if we stating that this passage simply refers to what happened in 70AD. The Bible talks of many false Christs and antichrists. If this view was prevalant among the early church we should expect to see the second coming allready by now.

Purely stating that the Great Tribulation happened underneath say Nero poses many problems

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the ot

In Matt 24 and in the corresponding passages it says after the Great tribulation the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give its light this is not a past event this is an event yet future like the abomination of desolation as the passage follows on

Matt 24
1 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

The Gospel has to be preached in all nations

Daniel 9
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Problem is with this passage it allreadys details the destruction of the Second Temple in verse 28 so they cannot be both one event.
Noone as of history has confirmed a covenant in the midst of the week whilst they are having sacrifices in the next verse, you cannot stop sacrifices if you do not have a third temple

In my other post I detailed that they have the plans of the third temple, it is on google maps. It is a reality which some future politian will actually

"Again, the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel had to do with the destruction of the city of Jerusalem and the temple. This was the sign given to the believers to flee in order to escape the judgment of God. This judgment is called "great tribulation”

A Quote from Josephus on the Destruction of Jerusalem

1. Now as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury, [for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done,] Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as were of the greatest eminency; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so muchof the wall as enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison, as were the towers also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall, it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it had ever been inhabited. This was the end which Jerusalem came to by the madness of those that were for innovations; a city otherwise of great magnificence, and of mighty fame among all mankind.

Josephus, Flavius. Flavius Josephus: The Complete Works of Flavius Josephus (Kindle Locations 29902-29907). Unknown. Kindle Edition.

Daniel 9:28

Brother do you believe in Christ's return Savannah?
If so when ?

Daniel says that "both the holy city and the holy place are exterminated together with the coming Leader, and that the pinnacle is destroyed unto ruin.” Therefore, we must inquire into the times of the coming of Christ,
the Leader. We will trace those times in [the book of] Daniel. .Â .Â . Therefore, we demonstrate that Christ came within the sixty-two and one-half weeks. Tertullian (c. 197, W), 3.158, 159.

Bercot, David W., editor. Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs (Kindle Locations 7243-7245). Hendrickson Pub. Kindle Edition.

Tertullian who was an Early church father states that it is a future leader.

If we believe in an historists view do we still believe in a future AntiChrist and in Christs Return

2 Thessalonians 2King James Version (KJV)

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In 2 Thessalonians it details that Christ destroys the Antichrist with the Brightness of his coming and that has not happened yet

docs May 25, 2017

Author Reed has many thoughts by why does he mention only one OT scripture regarding the stopping of the regular sacrifice and the abomination of desolation found in Daniel 9:27? There are three other references from Daniel.

Daniel 8:11 - "It even magnified itself to be equal with the Commander of the host; and it removed the regullar sacrifice from Him, and the place of His sanctuary was thrown down."

I would say that is a evil personage stopping the regular sacrifice.

Daniel 11:31 - "And forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation."

It appears to be a evil personage taking away the regular sacrifice and setting up the abomination of desolation.

Daniel 12:11 - "And from the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will lbe 1,290 days."

How can this be a different abolishing of the regular sacrifice and the abomination of desolation spoken of in the other passages? So in Daniel 8:11, 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 a evil personage is spoken of. Why then does the personage spoken of in Daniel 9:27 suddenly jump to being Christ when in the other passages describing the same thing a evil personage is spoken of? Are the scriptures being given a good shake and placed together properly for more context when only Daniel 9:27 is spoken of and Daniel 8:11, 11:31 and 12:11 are ignored?