Who are the Prophets?

Who are the Prophets today? Are their prophets today? The bible says that God will not do anything except He first reveal it to His Prophets but has there been a Prophet of God since Jesus Ascension? I don't read of anything except for the yo yo's in the past 100 years coming to the forefront in pentecostal/charismatic circles as well as in the cults.

Whenever a natural disaster happens self proclaimed 'prophets' arise and say it is a judgment of God. How do they know this? Are they truly Prophets?

I don't think this is taught in churches these days but then again it is promoted heavily in the pentecostal and charismatic church. The difference there is that those group of people have no discernment at all. There are not rules when it comes to the Holy Spirit. THey promote spiritual anarchy which demonstrates that anyone there claiming to be a prophet is automatic false.

What are your thoughts?

John the only answer I can give is that I know them when I see/hear them.

I have not come across any "prophets" in my many years in Christendom but I have come across a few who are "prophetic." Not in the sense of foretelling but rather forthtelling and discernment, wisdom and exhortation.

From the time of Jesus resurrection can you name any Prophets of God the last 2000 years?

John Is this cynical post due to an eschatological view or just from some bitterness in you?

I don't see how you could ever learn from posting like this? Throwing rocks at the pentecostal/charismatics...really is that what superior spirituality looks like? What does carnality have over lack of discernment?

You need not answer me, I'm not interested in engaging what will quickly become a flesh-fight since its starting out that way.

This post is due to me seeing many people who speak as if they are prophets or as if they know what God is doing as it relates to natural disasters. It got me thinking for a while and asking the question are there prophets today? Church history doesn't suggest any leader or any Christian as being a prophet since the resurrection of Jesus. Only in the last 100 years have we begun to see a rise in people claiming to prophesy but being found or following after a different God.

The bible talks about God revealing certain things by His Prophets before they happen in the OT but in the new testament it seems to hint at a change and church history seems to record this change subtly, to me at least.

Amos 3:7
"For the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.

Heb 1:2
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

I throw rocks at charismatics because I was under that umbrella for some 9 years and I saw alot of things. I have an aunt who remains under that umbrella and talks as if Baptist't don't have the Holy Spirit. She subtle says this but I know what she

Anyway, I am not seeing prophets in church history so I am asking myself why are people so gullible to believe the report of someone who says they are speaking 'thus says the Lord'? I get gullible at times because I want to believe certain things but then I consult the scripture and I see something different and have to deal with it.

My post may seem cynical but it is also serious...............are there prophet or are there not prophets of God?

I know if he were alive today he would deny that he was a prophet (he always called himself a "watchman"), but David Wilkerson. Read The Vision.

From the time of Jesus resurrection can you name any Prophets of God the last 2000 years?

"Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul." (Acts 13:1)

And if you ask, are there any prophets today? Yes! Because God says: "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy..."

Whether I've seen a prophet - I don't know. But I am not so sure what exactly is a prophecy. I mean there is a gift of prophesy. But there is also one-time-revelations (if I can call this properly so), where the person receives a word, a revelation but is not an prophet (like Saul). And the word preached (from the pulpit) could be also prophetic for a certain person.

But if anybody more mature can share something, I would be glad.

Dear brother DEADn, I too have had this plea. A couple years ago a brother here on SI sent me a copy of a book about the history of the Church in Russia. What happened over the centuries is that God used brethren on fire for Him and willing to lay down their lives for the Truth to restore doctrines and realities of the Christian life lost to tradition. What does this mean for today? Well, it means that God is faithful to His word that those who diligently seek Him will find Him.

Hey Jeremy221, I'm interested in the book you mentioned. What's the title?

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

"Hear ye Him"

Specifically by the "my Gospel" of Paul who has the words for salvation and life. Gospel? 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I know no other words or way of prophecy for the Body of Christ His Church. "My Gospel", speaks of all that Jesus wants us to know about Himself and our salvation, whom the Holy Spirit through Paul and Jesus teaching Paul that Christ is in him.

Ro 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Ro 16:25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
1Co 9:17
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

Galatians 1:15-16 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

AS a prophet of man, I choose Paul of the truth of Eph 2: 8&9, Grace through Faith. Paul is my prophet, his prophet and teacher is Jesus Christ Himself and the Holy Spirit.

All that Paul says comes true, that is the test of a Prophet by whom we hear the Words of Jesus Christ Himself, as Prophet, Lord and Savior through our Teacher of This Christ, The Holy Spirit who also lives in me forever, which is a prophecy in itself.

In Christ by Him a son: Phillip

John,

You ask, "My post may seem cynical but it is also serious...............are there prophet or are there not prophets of God?"

The silence is speaking very loudly.

Thanks for posting on this.

It's called "The Russians' Secret

What Christians Today Would Survive Persecution?"

by Peter Hoover with Serguei V. Petrov

I got it as a PDF.

EDIT: it's here on SI too.

Jeremy221

I found the PDF for this book and loaded it to a USB. I don't know that it answers my OP but I will be reading it regardless.

On the heels of my OP it causes me to wonder something. There is mention of prophets in the book of Acts but it is very low keying. Just something in passing and the prophecy of Joel about the last days was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost. Church history doesn't record anything about prophets of God saying anything. All we have knowledge of is the persecution of Christians......such as in the Russian book, and what they did to survive OR how they were killed but there is no mention of a prophet coming forward to say something in the Name of God as we see in the OT. This has to say that prophets no longer come anymore and that those who think themselves to be prophets are probably false prophets? Otherwise they would have to be those who study the scripture to see history repeating itself from the scriptures. I think David Wilkerson would be in this group.

There is no one out there for the last 2000 years who can what God was really doing in any given generation except for maybe earnestly contending for the faith such as the reformation? But even in that there was no prophet of God coming forth. Only maybe a watchman.

So the question remains.............who are the Prophets of God in the last 2000? Are there prophets of God in the last 2000 years? My stance is there are none unless I can be convinced there prophets. I wish I could read about prophets in the church. Sometimes my head screams for someone like Polycarp to say 'Thus says the Lord....'

So this post is more or less me crying out against preachers today who think themselves to be prophets of God and who can tell us why natural disasters happen. Pat Robertson and his son would be examples. Another modern day example of Jim Bakker who just today on tv says all of his prophecies have come to pass.....really Jim? He is like my senile old grandpa...........I like the guy but I don't take his message serious. He talks too much nonsense because he wants money and to be in the spotlight..............he needs to be homeless so he can see his own vanity.

Good post John, if I were left to believe that God would only use pastors or Evangelists to be prophets, that's almost laughable. Jesus used all people for the good of His will, but here are some examples of people that were used for the greatness of HIS glory. So this tells me he likes to use the least expected for the greatness of his glory. And this is just to name a few.
Abraham -Was old.
Elijah ”“ Was suicidal.
Joseph ”“ Was abused.
Moses ”“ Had a speech problem.
Samson ”“ Was a womanizer.
Rahab ”“ Was a prostitute.
Samaritan Woman ”“ Divorced.
Noah ”“ Was a Drunk.
Jacob ”“ Was a cheater.
David ”“ Was a murderer.
Peter ”“ Denied Christ three times
Paul ”“ A Pharisee who persecuted Christians before becoming one.

by MrBillPro on 2017/9/18 18:08:00

Good post John, if I were left to believe that God would only use pastors or Evangelists to be prophets, that's almost laughable. Jesus used all people for the good of His will, but here are some examples of people that were used for the greatness of HIS glory. So this tells me he likes to use the least expected for the greatness of his glory. And this is just to name a few.
Abraham -Was old.
Elijah ”“ Was suicidal.
Joseph ”“ Was abused.
Moses ”“ Had a speech problem.
Samson ”“ Was a womanizer.
Rahab ”“ Was a prostitute.
Samaritan Woman ”“ Divorced.
Noah ”“ Was a Drunk.
Jacob ”“ Was a cheater.
David ”“ Was a murderer.
Peter ”“ Denied Christ three times
Paul ”“ A Pharisee who persecuted Christians before becoming one.

I would agree and you listed a few who were prophets in the list. All from the OT or were Apostles.

btw, I recently saw that Ken Ham said the hurricanes in Texas and here in Florida are due to our sin. I don't think he is claiming to be a a prophet but at the same time I ask how does he know this? The Philippines has typhoons all the time. Would the same judgment apply?

Yeah, I suppose this irritates me a bit but it is because of Jude 3 for me as well as calling out those who make judgments to account for themselves of their judgment whether it is of God or of themselves. It makes a big different because it causes many to believe in them while it causes others to scoff at them and if they are false then both camps fall into deception. At the same time I must be careful not to allow seeds of anger to develop into hatred.............I hate seeing anything relating to the Gospel prostituted with reckless judgment.

Is that the same Ken Ham the embarrassed me in the debate with Bill Nye? I guess the jury is still out on who won that debate, or maybe it's who you ask. Personally speaking, that debate should have never taken place, believers should not be debating these worldly science folks, our belief is based on our faith, not science.

Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis who has the Ark Encounter and the Creation Museum in KY. I visited both of those places Dec 2016 in the frigid cold. I loved the cold because it was a major change from Florida weather but the parks were great as well.

Ken Ham embarrassed you in a debate with Bill Nye(who is no science guy)?

Our belief is based on faith which is rooted in evidence......

John, do you believe Christians should be getting into public debates with folks like, Nye, who is an agnostic? I personally think this can be dangerous to someone that's young in Christ, and also some folks seeking more knowledge of Jesus Christ. In my opinion, I think these type debates can confuse some more than help, maybe not but I just don't know.

Kings don't always speak for God. Neither do the priests. The only voice of God through time has been the prophets. They are the Thus sayeth the Lord.