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An Afterglow Meeting Chronicled for Edification

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ThyKingCome May 3, 2018

Hello Brothers and Sisters,

I thought this would be a good opportunity to share a bit of testimony here about what took place Monday night at our Men’s group.

Our leadership team decided that we were going to have an "Afterglow” (time of waiting on the Lord, availing ourselves to Him in prayer, worship, and allowing 1 Corinthians 12-14 to be real among us.

Normally we have roughly 150-200 men in attendance on Monday Nights. We just completed a 10 week concentrated course through the Conquer Series, which specifically addresses the subject of lust and pornography among men. ( I am sure there are other studies out there for women, but this is after all a "Men’s Group”).

As we got started, I couldn’t help but think about this forum, and Frank’s heart and was wishing you could have been there brother Frank, I really believe you would have loved it!

Here is how it went down:

The Men’s Pastor, one of the Elder’s and I met at 5:45 to discuss the evening and pray.

At 6:30 we went into a room with all of our group leaders (about 16 men) and continued in prayer for the evening asking God to move. While this was taking places, various men arrived early and moved chairs into a circle around the room, it’s quite a large room and could seat roughly 200.

At 7:00 the pre-prayer ended and we joined everyone gathered in the main room, there were about 100 men in attendance, all seated in a circle around this very large room. Normally we have potluck style food for the men, but we had no food this night and encouraged the men to fast for the evening.

Our Men’s pastor opened in prayer and began discussing what the night would be about. He talked about the importance of waiting on the Lord, letting Jesus be the Head of the meeting, and encouraged the men to be open to the gifts of the Spirit. He also emphasized heavily that we were there to hear from the Lord, and not man, and that it wasn’t a time for someone to give a long Bible study that they had rehearsed or prepared.

Afterwards, he invited me up where he was, as so I could share something on my heart, which I had brought up in an earlier meeting.

I began with 1 Thessalonians 5:19 and reminded the men "Do not quench the Spirit”. I told them that there were two ways we could quench the Spirit as we were gathered. 1) We could quench the Spirit by self-promotion and parading ourselves and drawing attention to ourselves, and 2) We could quench the Spirit by remaining silent when God is prompting us to contribute and speak or be involved with the meeting. I encouraged the men that they are "not spectators” and that Jesus wanted to manifest Himself in and through each of us, and to pray, be poised and ready to be used by the Lord.

So, the meeting began with my exhortation, which I would say was a word of prophecy because in 1 Corinthians is says "he that speaks prophecy speaks edification, exhortation and comfort to the hearers”.

Following this we had two songs of musical worship while men praised the Lord in song.

After this, one of the Elders was moved to ask the men if anyone wanted to be prayed for to receive the Baptism of the Spirit. Men came forward, were anointed with oil and prayed over by this Elder, and several leading men around him.

While this was going on, I stood up and read from Ephesians 19 about the difference between the Baptism of repentance and the Baptism of the Spirit, and briefly explained what was taking place. About 10 men came forward for this.
Following this, there were several spontaneous scriptures read, thanksgivings and praises.

After this, there were several words of knowledge given regarding specific situations men were in, and I will do my best to remember them:

1)One was regarding unforgiveness in men, who could not move forward, and needed to repent, and be prayed for (several men responded to this)

2)One was regarding anger and bitterness towards God, more men responded and were prayed for, confessing

3)One was a word that told men that they were to act on the prayer that was in their heart for someone in the room, and many men stood up, walked over to someone, knelt down and prayed something specific that God had placed on their hearts.

After this someone was moved to ask the men if anyone had a testimony of victory over sin as a result of the Conquer series, and three men shared what God had done in their lives and it was powerful ”“ all were edified and Jesus was magnified.

This whole process took about two hours, and it felt like the blink of an eye.

We sensed the things were drawing to conclusion, so we had a final song, stood to our feet and ended.

Here are some thoughts and takeaways from this meeting.

”¢\tThis happened. It really happened! In a large church (over 2000 people) in a Men’s group on a Monday night with over 100 men present, seated in nice chairs, in an air-conditioned building (praise God!) 
”¢\tMany gifts were exercised, but not all. That’s okay.
Ӣ\tPastors and Elders were present leading, shepherding and ensuring the meeting was according to Scripture, but they were not the focus.
”¢\tI had the thought "I love this, and wish we could do this more” but I never had the thought, "I wish this was the new normal every Sunday morning”. I think these types of meetings happen and occur, perhaps we just don’t know about them because people aren’t chronicling them as I have done here.
”¢\tI believe the early church operated like this because gatherings were small and conducive for this, but now we have several thousand people in our congregation, so this would not be feasible in one large gathering. That’s why we gather collectively Sunday and share a facility that can hold us, and then we scatter in small groups throughout the week in homes and try and "be small, together”.
”¢\tI wish it could have gone longer, and I felt a small inclination to almost force something to happen because I didn’t want it to end, but the Lord showed me that was me, and not Him. "The Spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.”
”¢\tI was hoping for something really dramatic, like a man being raised from a wheelchair, or mighty rushing wind, but the Lord was present, Jesus was magnified and it was extremely edifying. Isn’t that enough? It must be. There is a temptation to always "out do” each meeting, which present another problem because we want that high, that emotion, that feeling and that experience like we had "that one time”. Jesus is enough. He is greater than my need for an experience. His presence is the experience. His purposes and plans are far greater and wiser than my own.
”¢\tWe will do this again, we typically do as a men’s group at the conclusion of each study/session and also at our Annual retreat. It’s always different, always precious, always impactful.

I hope this testimony encouraged someone!

All my love in the Lord Jesus,
-Kevin

sermonindex May 3, 2018

Very encouraging brother. I certainly will be praying for this honor upcoming 24-hour call regarding our brother Andrew Brunson this weekend.

Thank you for sharing. Very encouraging.

Blaine

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Lysa May 3, 2018


Bro Kevin,

As a woman, I am so encouraged reading this! I am encouraged over all the men that was there and participated! Praise God!

The Lord gave me a jail ministry and it's very sad to wait in the lobby to go back to minister to the women and there is no men waiting with me to go back for the men. At one jail I go to, the guards told the women, "You guys get to have church all the time and the male inmates don't have anyone going back to minister to them." Very sad.

God bless you and your brothers in the Lord!!

sermonindex May 3, 2018

Excellent testimony bro Kevin and yes indeed it would have been wonderful to be present. You wrote.....

"This whole process took about two hours, and it felt like the blink of an eye."

That has been my experience and indeed the example meetings I used on the other thread were just like, they flew by. And one more thing brother, fasting was also a part. God bless you brother.............bro Frank

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ThyKingCome May 3, 2018

Thanks Lisa, glad you were encouraged! Lord we ask that you would raise up men in East TN to minister in these prisons, and help these men not to be forgotten!

God bless sister.

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twayneb May 3, 2018

Kevin: I am so excited to hear of God moving all over the place. Awesome testimony.

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narrowpath May 5, 2018

Thanks Brother Kevin, I have not seen that happening in years, although in a biblical sense you just described normal church.

How I long to see this again!

I feel so frustrated that so many nowadays do not know the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, or if they had it, they do not desire the operation of the gifts.
We need men devoted to word and prayer who honor
Jesus as the head who do not exalt themselves and just operate in the wisdom of man.
We need elders that exercise thoughtful leadership, who are ready to step in or refrain as the Spirit leads.

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TMK May 5, 2018

Kevin-

I meant to ask when the guys asked for prayer to be filled with the HS did anything happen?

sermonindex May 5, 2018

Narrowpath, check out my answer on the "Sunday morning" post... title is "The sign gifts have fallen into disuse." .....bro Frank

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Christinyou May 6, 2018

Who seeks a sign according to scripture. What are sign gifts?

In Christ: Phillip

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TMK May 6, 2018

//Who seeks a sign according to scripture. What are sign gifts?//

I assume the answer you are looking for is "a wicked and foolish generation."

However, a manifestation of the power of the Holy Spirit, or His manifest presence, is not the type of sign that verse is talking about.

sermonindex May 6, 2018

Todd writes........

"However, a manifestation of the power of the Holy Spirit, or His manifest presence, is not the type of sign that verse is talking about."

Thank you Todd for that common sense answer. I wonder if the other poster was suggesting that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit such as speaking in tongues and interpretation, prophecy and words of wisdom for example are evil or seeking these gifts are evil. That would be a very dangerous statement to imply that that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit are actually from the devil............bro Frank

1Co 14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

1Co 12:28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 

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Christinyou May 6, 2018

Who distributes all the gifts? I read that it is the Holy Spirit as He wills. How can the gifts of the Spirit be from the devil. My question is; "what are the sign gifts", I might add what are the gifts a sign of, if they are distributed by the Holy Spirit and He alone.

I have no motive or inference gifts distributed by the Holy Spirit are from the devil, that is impossible, only man can accomplish the evil gifts that man congers up in his own soul/mind, which are dangerous and should have none attendance to our gifts from the Holy Spirit. I trust that the gifts are good and proper to build up the body of Christ, for the Holy Spirit will speak nothing that Jesus Christ Has not said for that purpose, the Holy Spirit speaking of Jesus only, what He has done from the beginning, in His ministry of the Cross and what He is doing in each of us now, things when we are able to receive and the Holy Spirit not speaking, "not of Himself".

In Christ: Phillip

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Christinyou May 6, 2018

Quote: """"However, a manifestation of the power of the Holy Spirit, or His manifest presence, is not the type of sign that verse is talking about." """

Please help me understand the difference. I believe all signs from God, be it the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit, are a gift in themselves. I also believe the greatest sign gift is Jesus Christ, who He is and what He has done from the beginning and is now doing in us, the "Hope of Glory".

In Christ: Phillip

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AbideinHim May 7, 2018

Brother Kevin,

This testimony is so much how the church should be functioning.
Praying, waiting on God, allowing the Holy Spirit to have His way through the Body. What you shared about quenching the spirit is "spot on”. Brother, this is not an easy thing to do in a large church, but it appears that your eyes are on the Lord, and that you are seeking His will, and following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

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TMK May 7, 2018

//Quote: """"However, a manifestation of the power of the Holy Spirit, or His manifest presence, is not the type of sign that verse is talking about." """

Please help me understand the difference.//

The sign seekers you referenced in your first post on this thread were not seeking God; they were seeking titillation.

That is the difference.

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ThyKingCome May 7, 2018

Hey Todd,

Forgive me for the delayed response to your question. Nothing dramatic happened externally that I was aware of when we prayed for these men, however I would be interested to know what the Lord was doing in their hearts at that time and since then!

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TMK May 7, 2018

Thanks- I appreciate the reply!

I have been thinking a lot about this thread. I appreciate you bringing it up.

sermonindex May 7, 2018

Got this reply from a brother on my post about the tragedy of the Sunday morning service. though it would apply here as well..................bro Frank

To the glory of the LORD alone - we have been experiencing this participatory full church community and expression since 2008 - we would be ten years later this year! It is actually better experienced than ever described when we allow Holy Spirit to do His work on earth. When Jesus Christ said He will build His church, He sure knew what He was saying!

This can be done anywhere. The main and only requirement is to have the Holy Spirit in those so gathered together and for that Holy Spirit to be allowed to be among them when they meet. No single person or even a select group is required to guide and lead. Everyone can and should participate voluntarily and none is forced or compelled to do anything. It is beautiful to see the Father freely worshipped in Spirit and in Truth and see His community of brothers and sisters who desire to do His will emerge. The Spirit of God is so capable to lead and to add to the group as the Father wishes. As many as are led by the Spirit are the children of God. It has been an incredible experience and we have all been growing and maturing together in Him.

For example - two Sundays ago, we had such a strong move of His Spirit in our midst for two hours where He used the children to teach us the adults the word of God to resolve questions that the adults raised. It was so beautiful to see and learn really at the feet of the Master as He used the little ones to bring His wisdom and understanding to us all. When He is allowed to be the real Head of His Body, He knows how to get every member to supply as needed. Those who desire to be His disciples must truly die to our selves and deny our selves before we can even take up our cross daily and then follow Him. Such meetings led solely by His Spirit facilitate the process of death to self beautifully with minimum collateral damage!

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