same sex marriage passes in Canada

Last night the Canadian government, in all its wisdom, finally passed legeslation granting same sex couples the same right to "marriage" as traditional man/woman couples.This is no surprise, it has been coming for a couple of years. What is a surprise is the total lack of concern shown by the 70-80% of the population that claim to oppose change to the law regarding marriage.It is a sign of our time, all traditional morals, and values are on the decline. Can God hold back His judgment much longer?? Not so proud to be Canadian,... Greg :-o

Not so proud to be CanadianAgreed."These things must come, but woe to him through whom it comes."

Apparently the Canadian gov't is threatening to remove the tax exemptions of any church who speaks against same-sex union. I believe that we, the church, can no longer rely on the gov't for benefits and protection. It's a two way thing. If we want favors from the gov't, then we will find ourselves being under their authority and control. Many churches are watering down the message, to keep it politically correct. Another thought:Unjust societies are nothing new. They existed before the days of Noah. The New Testament writers talked about their evil society. There are many other societal sins that are far more prevelant and devastating. However, they don't repulse us because we have grown accustomed to them, and maybe even embraced them ourselves -ex humanism, pluralism, materialism, trust in the world, worldly institutions. Those sins are destroying our society but don't feel wrong anymore. So, how can we be as Christ would want us to be in the midst of this depraved society? How can we love the sinners, including the homosexual. Do we push that they merely "clean up" their act, or do we seek, through prayer, that they know the love, forgiveness, and freedom of Christ?DianePS There may be some who come to this site who sincerely struggle with homosexuality either in themselves, or their families, so we should be careful with our words - that they always be said in love and empathy. For we too may be struggling with besetting sins.

If I may, this is our message for homosexuals:Jesus Christ loves you, died for you, and can set you free, just like He can for anyone!God has promised it.

I have a challenge for you Krispy. I noticed in scripture that it was often idolatry and failing to care for the widows, fatherless, needy that brought Israel, or other nations into judgment. Why not do a comparison of the two words: idolatry and homosexuality as it relates to judgment and see which word comes up more often. Another thought. I find Ray Comfort's approach to the homosexual interesting. He deals with them like any unsaved person- appealing to their conscience based on the Ten Commandments. ex "Have you ever told a lie?.." etc... Violating one law makes the person a law breaker and therefore he faces God's judgment. Diane

Homosexuality is what brought God's judgement down on Sodom (sodomy) & Gamorha. Some will argue that it wasnt (and those who use the NIV or some of the other modern versions cant defend against that), but the fact is, it was.Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekiel 16:49-50)Sodom was a ungodly city, in light of that consider this verse;For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (Romans 1:18)I believe the order there is important, ungodliness leads to unrighteousness. A godless culture becomes a wicked culture. And as Paul tells us further along in Romans;For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.(Romans 1:26-27)When a culture turns their backs on God and refuses to give Him the glory He is due, He may choose to give them up to their vile affections. So the homosexuality is only a symptom of a much larger disease. And so it was that God gave us an example of his wrath that is revealed from heaven on ungodliness and unrighteousness of men.In Christ,Ron

The Bible speaks in many places about how sin will increase more and more as the return of the Lord draws closer. If you're questioning this, then I have to wonder about your knowledge of the Word.which verses do you have in mind? and I don't mind you wondering about my knowledge of the Word.

A message of encouragement for us all! I was talkiong with a friend the other day and was wondering, in Rev. 20: 7-10 (In a lump sum we where trying to figure out if indeed these that where living with Christ for a thousand years, which reflects the glorified body, where bearing children that where tempted by Satan. This would influence to us that in Heaven God keeps us together as families, marriges, and children/parents. United as one large family for the purpose of exhalting God in all His glory). We ended the conversation by him saying, "I don't try to dig to deep into Revelations because it will take care of itslef. We, of course, agreed there was nothing wrong with knowing about different mysteries and untold knowledge hidden in Gods word, but He already tells me that if I am to stay faithful in fellowship with Him all of these things will be revealed to me. I want to ask you know brothers and sisters, if no man knows the date, and we are all looking forward to the coming of Christ and practice our faith in urgency of His soon arrival, then what need do we have of trying to use certain sins/signs as a forewarning. I'll have to look it up but many of the churhes in Paul's era used a sign of departing that equals today's common "goodbye" but theirs contained the meaning of "Jesus is coming soon!" As Christians it is our duty to hope and look for His coming very soon. We, however waste so much time in trying to be learned of the scripture and knowledgeable in history so as to be able to cut of people who would argue our opinion/belief in every possible scenario, or we actually believe that this will make us better Christians. Some are called to a higher standard of learning, but I tell you now that my knowledge of the Greek version of the Bible or what my particualar opinion of a verse is. If God needs me to know what exactley He means in Revelations about if we are going to remain in our immediate families then He will show it to me. What I'm trying to get across that all of our knowledge (or yours should I say... I have a high school grad certificate and an Insurance license ;-) so I'm not any where near as educated as some of you seem to be!) is nothing compared to the faithful saint who reads and studies his Bible to the best of his abilites and shares his faith with the lost and lives a life convincing to the sinner and worthy of the title of a Christian God will give him the words and the knowledge required to plant the seeds of the Gospel (which by the way is such 'good-news' that no force of man will ever wipe it clean of the earth!) Friends their is nothing wrong with education but might I remind you that while we debate amongst ourselves as Christians (not picking on just us but all saints) their are people going to Hell TODAY and our concerns of when Christ returns has no more meaning in thier loves... only the loving and caring hand of our Lord Jesus can impact them. God bless you all today and may we all be blessed with the opprotunity to share our faith with a soul today. I love you all.

What I do not want to decieve is to decieve myself!!I need Jesus !!