Things women weren't allowed to do...

Things women weren’t allowed to do not long ago in America.

Open A Bank Account without their husband or a male relative’s permission.Until 1974 when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act was passed.

Serve Jury Duty. Until 1968 when it was legal in every state.

Practice Law. Until 1971.

Take Birth Control Pills. Until 1960 when the contraceptive was approved.

Go On Maternity Leave. Until the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978.

Breastfeed In Public. Until a bill was passed by Congress.

Attend An Ivy League University.

In 1969 Yale and Princeton admitted their first female students. At Harvard it wasn't until 1977.

Attend A Military Academy. Until 1976.

Run The Boston Marathon until 1972.

Serve In Combat. Until 2013.

Become An Astronaut. Until 1978.

But as early as 1920 women won the right to vote.

If you'd like, you may add to this list.

Note: a current thread linking revival to repentance is on the forum. Until a full repentance of the sin of feminism is repented of, don't be deceived into thinking we're repenting.

Is America now a better place? For both men and women?

America can't be great again! Repentance of sin is the answer. And this includes one of the root sins, FEMINISM!

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet (H5828) for him. - Gen 2:18

And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet (H5828) for him. - Gen 2:20

And the name of the other was Eliezer; for the God of my father, said he, was mine help (H5828), and delivered me from the sword of Pharaoh: - Exo 18:4

And this is the blessing of Judah: and he said, Hear, LORD, the voice of Judah, and bring him unto his people: let his hands be sufficient for him; and be thou an help (H5828) to him from his enemies. - Deu 33:7

There is none like unto the God of Jeshurun, who rideth upon the heaven in thy help (H5828), and in his excellency on the sky. - Deu 33:26

Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the LORD, the shield of thy help (H5828), and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high places. - Deu 33:29

Send thee help (H5828) from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion; - Psa 20:2

Our soul waiteth for the LORD: he is our help (H5828) and our shield. - Psa 33:20

But I am poor and needy: make haste unto me, O God: thou art my help (H5828) and my deliverer; O LORD, make no tarrying. - Psa 70:5

Then thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, and saidst, I have laid help (H5828) upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one chosen out of the people. - Psa 89:19

O Israel, trust thou in the LORD: he is their help (H5828) and their shield. - Psa 115:9

O house of Aaron, trust in the LORD: he is their help (H5828) and their shield. - Psa 115:10

Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help (H5828) and their shield. - Psa 115:11

[[A Song of degrees.]] I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help (H5828). My help (H5828) cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth. - Psa 121:1-2

Our help (H5828) is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth. - Psa 124:8

Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help (H5828), whose hope is in the LORD his God: - Psa 146:5

They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help (H5828) nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach. - Isa 30:5

And I will scatter toward every wind all that are about him to help (H5828) him, and all his bands; and I will draw out the sword after them. - Eze 12:14

Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help (H5828): but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. - Dan 11:34

O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help (H5828). - Hos 13:9

Note: a current thread linking revival to repentance is on the forum. Until a full repentance of the sin of feminism is repented of, don't be deceived into thinking we're repenting.

Is America now a better place? For both men and women?

America can't be great again! Repentance of sin is the answer. And this includes one of the root sins, FEMINISM!

Striking words!

American is becoming a Marxist country in thinking. Make a judgment on anything and you may suffer the consequences unless it lines up with political theory....the personal becomes political for American liberals and that is part of where America is.

I applaud your words!

btw, the list you posted. Do you think that should still be in tact today?

"...the list you posted. Do you think that should still be in tact today?"

If Genesis is literal and Eden was a real Garden...YES INDEED!

God's Word which was posted by Heartsong emphasises the word "help", and if that be kept in mind by the female sex as her purpose she'd have no axe to grind with the short list in the OP. Much more could be added to the list!

So savannah,

you think women should not vote?

- should not be able to open bank account without the permission of male relatives? This is would not be a good law. I do believe a wife certainly should not do that without the knowledge of her husband but not out of compulsion (or law restriction) but out of love. Because the money of a home are 'our', not 'mine' vs. 'yours'.

I just want you to be careful with such things and perhaps take a look at countries where women are restricted - Iran for example (and actually all Islamic countries). Where the fate of many girls is in the hand of their relatives and they SUFFER! because of that. And no verse in the Bible will excuse the behaviour of the 'male relatives' (husband / father / brother).

Do I need to give detailed examples?
I am not feminist, but I am not blind to the other side of the coin. And yes, the family has been damaged by feminism. But you are not going to change that by prohibiting this or that. A change of mind and heart is needed! And a will to go against the majority, knowing the truth about your role in family in society from God's perspective!

Sorry, I had to chime in on this one.

I don't hold to a feminist perspective, and I don't hold to a chauvinist one either.

If you don't think women should be able to vote or hold a position in government, tell that to queen Esther.

If you don't think women should practice law or serve on jury duty, tell that to Judge Deborah.

If you don't think women should serve in combat, tell that to Jael.

So you don't think women should be able to go on maternity leave? Or get an education?

Read Proverbs 31; a woman who works hard and is a faithful wife and mother is highly valued in God's eyes.

Savannah

Do you participate in any of the things that you listed that a woman should not be doing?

"Do you participate in any of the things that you listed that a woman should not be doing?"

They're N/A to me.

I despise feminism, it is a blight and curse upon our nation and our families. It's an ideology that runs contrary to godliness.

That being said. It's important to be biblical about things.

Open A Bank Account without their husband or a male relative’s permission.Until 1974 when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act was passed.
{there is no biblical injunction against it}

Serve Jury Duty. Until 1968 when it was legal in every state.
{There is no biblical injunction against it}

Practice Law. Until 1971.
{There is no biblical injunction against it}
Take Birth Control Pills. Until 1960 when the contraceptive was approved.
[fornication is forbidden, kill-pills are murder, other contraceptives within a marriage are according to conscience]

Go On Maternity Leave. Until the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978.
[no biblical injunction against it]
Breastfeed In Public. Until a bill was passed by Congress.
[no biblical injunction against it]
Attend An Ivy League University.
[no biblical injunction against it]
In 1969 Yale and Princeton admitted their first female students. At Harvard it wasn't until 1977.
[no biblical injunction against it]
Attend A Military Academy. Until 1976.
[implied in scripture that men alone engaged in combat]
Run The Boston Marathon until 1972.
[no biblicsal injunction against it]
Serve In Combat. Until 2013.
[implied in scripture that men alone engaged in battle]
Become An Astronaut. Until 1978.
[no biblical injunction against it]
But as early as 1920 women won the right to vote.
[no biblical injunction against it]

In conclusion, Feminism no doubt has a part to play in most everyone of these facets of American culture, yet, until there is explicit prohibition of them, they are accessible by way of New Covenant liberty.

The fact that any one of these can be 'sin' to an individual does not in itself negate it's availability to citizenry of this nation. Both men and women can ruin lives, sin and destroy by driving their car, yet no one of sound mind lists driving a car as a questionable activity for a woman. Therefore the propensity of any 'thing' to cause sin cannot by necessity be prohibitive. Men use the bible to 'sin' everyday in their using it to exploit and control people, yet every sound mind knows the bible was designed by God for it's godly purpose.

Feminism is an exploiter and destroyer of what God created in women to bear the image and likeness of God. A woman's God given intellect is exploited by feminist propagandist to injure the family and demean the role of the man in family and community. Should we then keep women from education because feminism has corrupted the usage of intellect? No...that would be just stupid.

It is good to attack the ideology of feminism, but to attack what feminism exploits and uses for it's own purposes is missing the mark altogether as I see it.

What females can or cannot do besides birthing babies, one would do well to study the WORD to see what females did, how they contributed to society.

Some will point to wicked females - think Jezebel - as a case in point how females need to be silenced. However, as I study the WORD I find a whole lot more incidents of males who rebelled against God then I do females.

Adam blamed Eve for his sin - men still do that - but God held him responsible. Each person is responsible for his own sin - blaming others and thinking it will get you off the hook will not work.

In the meantime, I enjoy being married to my husband - have done it for 51 years. It has been a learning and growing experience. And I enjoy it very much.

Sandra

Hi Sandra: going on 40 years married, and yes the blame still goes on...just the other day I said in the presence of my wife...Lord, the woman thou gavest me, she did make me fat, she did distract me while I was driving, she...

I love being married as well. Of course her unsanctified self punched me on the shoulder and I said Lord, the woman thou gavest me she did...

The go-to I use in my house is "Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood.” After all, I’m just a soul whose intentions are good.

Feminism n. the policy, practice or advocacy of political, economic, and social equality for women.

The name Feminist Majority Foundation is a consciousness-raiser, inspired by a Newsweek/Gallup public opinion poll that showed the majority of women (56%) in the United States self-identified as feminists. Most polls since then reveal that this majority continues with over two-thirds of young women self-identifying as feminists. Most men, especially young men, view themselves as supporters of the women's rights movement.

The Feminist Majority Foundation (FMF), which was founded in 1987, is a cutting edge organization dedicated to women's equality, reproductive health, and non-violence. In all spheres, FMF utilizes research and action to empower women economically, socially, and politically. Our organization believes that feminists - both women and men, girls and boys - are the majority, but this majority must be empowered.

Led by FMF President Eleanor Smeal, our research and action programs focus on advancing the legal, social and political equality of women with men, countering the backlash to women's advancement, and recruiting and training young feminists to encourage future leadership for the feminist movement in the United States.

To carry out these aims, FMF engages in research and public policy development, public education programs, grassroots organizing projects, leadership training and development programs, and participates in and organizes forums on issues of women's equality and empowerment. Our sister organization, the Feminist Majority, engages in lobbying and other direct political action, pursuing equality between women and men through legislative avenues. (from the Feminist Majority Foundation website)

According to FMF 56% of women in the US self identify as feminists.

But other polls tell us that 80% of the people who live in the United States are christians.

And we're also told that 58% of the votes for the President of the United States last election went to Hillary Clinton.

Hmmmmmmmmm...🤔

"Satan cares little whether we go astray after a false doctrine or merely turn sour. Either way he wins." -A. W. Tozer

Savannah,

you mean "were not allowed to do", means "are not supposed to / should not do". I've already written what I think on the issue.

But could you please share - "What were the women allowed to do?" And what are women supposed to do?

I would appreciate also if Sandra, and Marvin share their experience.

Yesterday I spoke with a friend and we discussed that even if a woman is staying home, taking care of her children, time comes when the children are not so small and do not need constant supervision or they build their own home... My friend and I agreed that, even as mom, who stays at home for her children, what you do should not be limited only to your house, or your local church. But one should rather actually be a blessing for others too.

So I am curious to know, what did women / mothers, especially Christian women / mothers do in the past?

What do you think?

Long time ago I helped friends of my parents move to a smaller home. As a reward I had first choice on all items they did not need anymore.

Among the items I took were some books. In one I discovered a letter the wife wrote to her husband. In it she desperately pleads that he must become less selfish, love her sometimes & be aware of how imprisoned she was, having no income, or means to leave him.

It was wrong of me to read that letter. But I am thankful for the glimpse I got into a household that seemed so together to many on the outside. It was representative of so many (unbelieving) households where the Men were firmly in control, and women were suffering. Or vise versa.

Now, a few decades later, some daughters were able to liberate themselves from dependency on males. In fact, they are sometimes "in control" now. And from what I can see, they are not less abusive than the men from the previous dispensation. It's a sin nature thing, producing the continuous cycle of CONTEMPT (the response from the women) AND WRATH (in response by the men).

Esther 1:16
And Memucan answered before the king and the princes: "Queen Vashti has not only wronged the king, but also all the princes, and all the people who are in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus. 17 For the queen’s behavior will become known to all women, so that they will despise their husbands in their eyes, when they report, ‘King Ahasuerus commanded Queen Vashti to be brought in before him, but she did not come.’ 18 This very day the noble ladies of Persia and Media will say to all the king’s officials that they have heard of the behavior of the queen. Thus THERE WILL BE EXCESSIVE CONTEMPT AND WRATH.

I am not a woman, so thinking, acting, responding, feeling, trusting like a woman is as foreign to me as Palm trees in Alaska.
So as a man I say...
Women should seek the kingdom of God first, whether you be a business woman or a mother of 3. God is first, not your children or your husband, God's kingdom is first, not your home, job or the education of your children.

Mothers should be able to get out of the house and serve other women, neighbors or a variety of peoples in with gospel centered goals. Business women should put down their computers and switch off the schedule and calendars and attend to gospel centered goals, making their lives available to Jesus Christ.

As I see it, weakened Christianity suffers from misplaced priorities. Seeking the kingdom of God first is explicit in scripture and is also explicitly absent in Christian families. Wives and mothers spend their days consumed with the affairs of this world and think little to nothing of God's kingdom, the lost, the gospel or how to evangelize their neighbors.
If a woman decides to venture out of the boiling crab pot, the other crabs will try and drag her back into the pot. "don't you know our children will not be cared for as the ought?" Did you know it's dangerous going to that place as a woman, you have children you know"? "Yea, go down and protest at the abortion clinic, once the board finds out about your 'after-work' activities your days on the board are numbered". "You have a career to care for too you know".

It is very true some women are cruelly abused by useless scoundrels they married. It is equally true, that many women who could do good will not do it, they could venture out and be a godly witness and they do not.

As to husbands? Everything I said here pertains equally to men as well, the difference being, the woman focuses on the world from her needs, the man focuses on the world for his needs, both of them have missed the calling and purpose of God in their lives.

Feminism only exasperates the difficulties in marriage, in Christianity there is no more place for feminism in a woman than their is adultery in a man. Both sins can equally devastate a marriage/children and set their paths upon years of heartache and loss.

I guess not only some but majority of women, were then abused and are now being abused or demeaned.

And now we can not totally blame them for the chaos that we have largely contributed in the provocation by the skewed application of the bible.

Women are also flesh and blood that needs to survive the cares of life. They get tired physically, mentally, and spiritually._And in today's world they need money and security of their being and other things that men need.

Yes, feminism is a tool of the devil, but what alternative can we offer aside from nagging, domineering, and blaming.

"When I hear that the church of Christ has gone throughout the whole world carrying the torch of civilization, healing and giving hope and help, I conclude that the christian church must be of God because she is acting the way God would act.

When I hear that she has founded hospitals and insane asylums, I say surely she must be of God because this is what God would do, being what He is.

When I hear that she has emancipated woman and taken her from being a chattel slave and an object of some old king's lust to be the equal of man and the queen in his home, I say surely that must be of God."

-A. W. Tozer

Can I get an amen?