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Ezekiel 8: idolatry in the church and Judgement begins at the house of god

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deltadom Feb 5, 2019

Ezekiel 8
1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.

2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.

3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.

4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.

5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.

6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.

13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. note

18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

1 Peter 4:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

What I always find interesting we look at the worlds problems and when is there going to be repentance in the church.

We are all a mess and need jesus.

How can we get the world to repent if there is no repentence
In the church.


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BranchinVINE Feb 6, 2019

Hi Dominic,

Guess Christians who need to repent cannot see that they need to repent.

Luke 18:11-12 ”“
The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.'

Totally ignorant of the verdict against him:

Matt. 23:23 ”“
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.


It is so easy to see sin in others and so hard to see sin in oneself.

Even David was guilty.

Samuel 12:1-7 ”“
Then the LORD sent Nathan to David. And he came to him and said,
"There were two men in one city, the one rich and the other poor.
"The rich man had a great many flocks and herds.
"But the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb
Which he bought and nourished;
And it grew up together with him and his children.
It would eat of his bread and drink of his cup and lie in his bosom,
And was like a daughter to him.
"Now a traveler came to the rich man,
And he was unwilling to take from his own flock or his own herd,
To prepare for the wayfarer who had come to him;
Rather he took the poor man’s ewe lamb and prepared it for the man who had come to him.”
Then David’s anger burned greatly against the man, and he said to Nathan, "As the LORD lives, surely the man who has done this deserves to die. He must make restitution for the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing and had no compassion.”
Nathan then said to David, "You are the man!”

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BranchinVINE Feb 6, 2019

1 Tim. 1:15 ”“
It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all.


Jesus, Friend of sinners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st3CaUMH8zI


"Let our hearts be
Led by mercy.
Help us reach with open hearts
And open doors.”

Amen.


Luke 15:1-2 ”“
Now all the tax collectors and the sinners were coming near Him to listen to Him. Both the Pharisees and the scribes began to grumble, saying, "This man receives sinners and eats with them."

Verse 3-6 ”“
So He told them this parable, saying, ‘What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open pasture and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? When he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'


Again,

Luke 5:29-31 ”“
And Levi gave a big reception for Him in his house; and there was a great crowd of tax collectors and other people who were reclining at the table with them. The Pharisees and their scribes began grumbling at His disciples, saying, "Why do you eat and drink with the tax collectors and sinners?"

Verses 31-32 ”“
And Jesus answered and said to them, "It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."


Matt. 5:46 ”“
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?

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deltadom Feb 6, 2019

We so often talk about a revival but the church needs to be revived before sinners can be saved.
The thing is even myself I know I have grew cold and need the fire of the gospel alive in my own life
I know in the last days the church will be apostate

It is like most churches look at say the abortion situation that has recently happened in New York but I think the statistics of abortion among the church or homosexuality and think that the church is worse.

People are so cold to the gospel in the U.K.
I so worry about in the next few years there will be no one due to online shopping.

Unless god comes down we are doomed and I wish I had the desire to pray.

People think that most problems can be solved through politics only if we had more Christians In power in politics then the nation would change

I know there is a perfect bride of Christ and a harlot.

The reason i bought up the passages in Ezekiel is that apostasy in the church today is everywhere and was in the temple itself.

The passage judgement begins at the house of god because judgement begins with the church

Shiloh was destroyed because of Eli and his sons. We have worse things going on in our churches that was going on in israel during the time of Samuel with things like the nar movement and prosperity gospel.
God did not accept there sacrifices and offerings during this time and the line of Aaron was banished.

The thing is I look at myself I know I am a mess , how can we turn the finger when we do not turn it upon are selves

I also think that the apostasy in the church is also to reveal the antichrist or anti messiah as the bible prophecy’s. Could the apostasy in the church actually be god.

I so long for a day when god comes down like Duncan Campbell because I think that is the only thing that can save the U.K.

Even in my own life I think unless god does something we are doomed , I can’t even pray without Jesus

Concentrating on worldly things rather than on Jesus I am guilty, also wanting to know more about the bible as I have read entire commentary series and know the archaology back to front.

It seems so that people don’t want to know about religion or political issues and escape through entertainment then god puts it in entertainment

My most unpleasant time was scouring though Christian books and wanting so desperately to recommend Christian books I have read the entire Puritan paperback series whilst i was in university and then books like r a Torrey and d l moody

It was David Wilkerson that called the current Christian books candy floss

It is hard when the standards are just simply it is is not a cult by Walter martins standard

What would someone like Charles sturgeon think of today’s church,

The thing is we have Jesus himself if he was writing about today’s church would it worse than ladocia

As we are going to meet him

One of the most scariest passages in the scriptures to me is when it talks about the destruction of Jerusalem that it talks about the lord destroyed Jerusalem the same god who opened the Red Sea destroyed Jerusalem

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docs Feb 6, 2019

How can we be doomed if we are in Christ?

If we see ourselves as nothing but a mess what are we saying about the fact that God sees us as a new creation in Christ, holy and acceptable in His sight, having moved past judgment into acquittal and justification?

The old man is such that when he has his way for a while he tries and convince you that that the bad feelings you experience is what you really are. Say NO!

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deltadom Feb 7, 2019

This is not an argument about are nature
This is about the fact that judgement begins at the house of god. God is not going to start with the world when he judges it, he is going to start with the church.

1 Timothy
14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Paul himself called himself the chief of sinners and he wrote most of the new testament

Isa 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts

Isaiah also said the same thing.

When is the church itself going to realise that unless god does something other than try and change the world through the seven mountain mandate

In England churches are dying, churches are made up of older groups.

We need a true revival and it starts at home.

To me the church looks so much like the world there is no difference.

What I find so sad is that discussing issues like Brexit and things like abortion are abhorrent but when you have abortion in the church there is no leg to stand on.

It is so hard when there is a general population that is extremely antichristian whether you have a right leaning government or a left leaning government as to the average person in the street hates god.

It is God that causes revival I cannot cause him to revive the church in England , god is god.

I do not believe in things like Brexit because i do not believe in globalism but I know in the future that there will be a antichrist who rules on a globalist scale

The only view that non Christians view of the gospel in the west is the prosperity gospel as that what's popular.

I find it crazy it almost like trying to save someone at sea when they are drowning and they have holes in there life boat.

To me it would take a miracle for the church to wake up and I know there is a false church aswell that would probably go with multifaith , ecumenical ,nar, prosperity gospel movement

People are trying to pray for our political leaders or trying to persuade things.
When the general population is evil and I am not surprised when they vote in an evil way.
But when there is no light and salt in the church.

In England where would someone go if they were saved they would probably pick up a prosperity gospel book and there is more chance of getting a bible at Waterstones or download an app than get a bible from a local church .

If England and the church had a revival what type of gospel would they get and would they get a love of the scriptures.

This is what I mean is unless god revives the church we are doomed .

There may be no more evangelism in the high streets as people shop online. Shopping centres will become community zones.

Churches are getting knocked down.

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docs Feb 7, 2019

I hear what you are saying and agree with much of it yet I believe that if our view of the church is negative only then we are missing many of the good things God has and is doing. In spite of increasing wickedness there are many godly things going on in many churches. God's hand is not so short. He always has the 7,000 who have not bowed the knee. Im not trying to pick st you. I just believe there are godly things going on in many churches today. I wonder if the growing apostate church was ever really part of the church. It's as if they have gone out from us to show they really were not part of us to begin with.

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deltadom Feb 7, 2019

I never said that there was not godly things going on in the church but has a whole the outlook for the church in the UK where I live is extremely bleak in the future as there will be more Muslims

Prophets like Jeremiah, Ezekiel and other alot of the prophets said very negative things but the difference is those negative things were from the throne room whilst the false prophets said very positive things whilst on the edge of destruction

1 kings 22
10 And the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah sat each on his throne, having put on their robes, in a void place in the entrance of the gate of Samaria; and all the prophets prophesied before them. note

11 And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron: and he said, Thus saith the LORD, With these shalt thou push the Syrians, until thou have consumed them.

12 And all the prophets prophesied so, saying, Go up to Ramothgilead, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the king's hand.

13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.

14 And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.

15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD?

17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.

18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?

19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. note

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?

25 And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself. note

26 And the king of Israel said, Take Micaiah, and carry him back unto Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son;

27 And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I come in peace.

28 And Micaiah said, If thou return at all in peace, the LORD hath not spoken by me. And he said, Hearken, O people, every one of you.

29 So the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah went up to Ramothgilead.

30 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, I will disguise myself, and enter into the battle; but put thou on thy robes. And the king of Israel disguised himself, and went into the battle. note

31 But the king of Syria commanded his thirty and two captains that had rule over his chariots, saying, Fight neither with small nor great, save only with the king of Israel.

32 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots saw Jehoshaphat, that they said, Surely it is the king of Israel. And they turned aside to fight against him: and Jehoshaphat cried out.

33 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots perceived that it was not the king of Israel, that they turned back from pursuing him.

34 And a certain man drew a bow at a venture, and smote the king of Israel between the joints of the harness: wherefore he said unto the driver of his chariot, Turn thine hand, and carry me out of the host; for I am wounded. note note note

35 And the battle increased that day: and the king was stayed up in his chariot against the Syrians, and died at even: and the blood ran out of the wound into the midst of the chariot. note note

36 And there went a proclamation throughout the host about the going down of the sun, saying, Every man to his city, and every man to his own country.

In this story you have Ahab going to war and God puts a lying spirit in all of the four hundred prophets mouth.

God loved Ahab by sending michaeh to tell him that he will die

Something that ended up negative ended up positive

Who would you trust the person that is going to tell you are going to die in battle which is the truth or the four hundred prophets who lied to you and you ended up dying.

If Ahab listened to michah he could have lived.

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ginnyrose Mar 20, 2019

Doc, it appears to me that you are discouraged because of the state of the current church and for good reason. You are not alone.

I look at the political and church scene as it is being reported in social media in the USA and as one who has followed it since I was a young girl, I am appalled at what is going on. Then I remember this scripture: "Do not say, "Why is it that the former days were better than these? For it is not from wisdom that you ask about this." Eccles. 7:10.

I am concluding that God is exposing what has been skillfully hidden by man for many years and we are shocked at what we are seeing. Couple this with Jesus' prophecy that things will get worse in the end times, but this cannot happen unless people are away from God.

My understanding.

Sandra

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enid Mar 21, 2019


Thank you Ginnyrose for bringing some much needed wisdom to this post.

Yes, things are bad here in England.
Yes, churches are closing down. Four have closed in the past year in this city alone.
Yes, the news is going crazy with nothing but bad news.

But, we have God. God is on our side.

As we cry out to Him, He hears and answers.

God is good. Enough said.

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EAGLEFLYING Mar 22, 2019

As I read these posts.. I remember Christ died for His church.. I believe He is preparing a remnant.
I am an intercessor.. As I pray for people I always ask them if they are 1. Born again...John 3:3.
If they say yes I pray according to His covenant promises..that are yea and Amen.. I then ask them if they are born again in their hearts or in their minds.??
There is a difference.. Yes GOD is cleaning up His churches.. Are we not of a different kingdom.. It's His Church..is it not.. IF its not His church.. According to HIS TRUTH.. Yes shut the doors .. He hasn't changed.. We are a pilgrim people.. we are supposed to be walking a walk of HOLINESS unto HIM.. That's How I see it ..
It's His agenda or supposed to be.. As I sit as His feet I want more of HIM and less of me.. I realize that I can be the problem or the solution to someone.. DId JESUS die to save us all? Did Jesus shed His Blood for all OF our sins? I believe that is the message of the true church.. IF the world has snuck in we have to blame ourselves.. We are only accountable for what we do. My heart is to help my brother when He is in the pit and give him my hand.. I may be in the put next time.. Scripture teaches us.. Be Careful when u stand that you do not think you will fall.. 1 cor 10:12 We all sin we all need to repent and be about HIS business.
There has been perversion in the people of GOD since the original sin. I believe GOD HAS THIS.. Is He still not GOD.. His promises are the same.. I believe He is preparing a remnant of believers.. A mighty army who will go forth and take back what the enemy has stolen.. Joel 2:25-28 Joel 2:25-28 King James Version (KJV)
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.

26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the Lord your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.

27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the Lord your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
I am believing this.. I am believing HIS PROMISES.. GOD IS STILL GOD AND WE MUST FIGHT..
I believe churches will close if they are preaching a Gospel of accommodation as David Wilkerson states... IS PERVERSION NEW?? Gen 12 states it started with Ham seeing Abraham inappropriately..
Is not this a spirit and not people. Paul teaches us this in the book of EPHESIANS..
6-10
. Pls hear my heart. I am a member of the body of Christ and our mouths can edify or curse. Prov 18:21.. Where are the Blessings of HIS CHURCH. being said..??? IF focus on all the dirt we will see all the dirt... IF we focus on the GOLD we will see the GOLD..
.. lET THE CHURCHES CLOSE IF JESUS ISN'T BEING TAUGHT TO BE THE CENTER.. iT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE about us.. Its supposed to be about JESUS AND HIS CROSS AND HIS MERCY.. I will continue to pour in the oil and wine in anyone I can while He allows me to.. I pray you hear my heart here and others will join arms and fight and take back what the enemy has stolen.. We are in a war.. MY BIBLE SAYS WE WIN.. WE WIN. We overcome by the BLOOD of the LAMB and the word of our testimony. Rev 12:11. MAY THE BLOOD OF JESUS BE SPRINKLED OVER EVERY CHURCH AND MAY THE WIND BLOW THE FIRE COME DOWN AND THE GLORY FILL ALL THE HOUSES AGAIN..MAY HE CONVICT US WHEN WE DO NOT PLEASE HIM.. AND BE QUICK TO REPENT.. I PRAY WE ALL HAVE OVERCOMING SPIRITS AND GIVE OUR HANDS AND PRAYERS TO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTER WHO ARE IN THE DITCHES OF DESPAIR AND DEPRESSION AND FEAR IN SO SO MANY HOUSES TODAY..
MAY WE JOIN ARMS AND PRAY FOR HIS CHURCH IN UNITY WITH HIM.. MAY WE WORK WITH CHRIST.. MAY WE BE MORE LIKE HIM IN JESUS NAME.... AND REMEMBER HE WILL IRON OUT THE WRINKLES IN US ALL MAY HE HAVE MERCY ON US ALL AND SEND HIS ANGELS TO BREAK THE CHAINS OF FALSE TEACHING AND FALSE DOCTRINE IN JESUS NAME MAY HE FILL US WITH MORE TRUTH AND HIS CHURCH WITH THE TRUTH JESUS IS STILL THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.. JOHN 14;6.. MAY WE ALL HAVE THE ISSACHAR ANOINTING AND SEE IN THE SPIRIT in JESUS name..

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drifter Mar 22, 2019

As I've been praying recently, God spoke to me and told me He is going to get His church ready for His soon return. He will purify His bride. Also there will be a revival like the church has never seen. My pastor is believing God for 60 million people saved in the U.S.

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EAGLEFLYING Mar 22, 2019

Im believing with you brother.. May we all be revived in JESUS name..
Blessings Drifter
My daily prayer has been interrupt me and give me your agenda and stir up the gifts you have for me in JESUS name...
Blessings
in Christ
Frannie

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deltadom Mar 23, 2019

Does what people say match up with what the scriptures say as the Bible says that the antichrist will turn up before Jesus returns and that he will come out of an apostate church

2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, note

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. note

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

When people prophecy these things it is not like i do not believe in revival

I have people said that God would bring millions in but as I have got older the church had got more and more into apostasy

When god speaks to people how can we know that it is not the devil

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drifter Mar 23, 2019

Dominic, I do test the spirits. If I didn't think an end times revival was biblically based I would not believe it. I realize there will be a great apostasy as we get closer to Christ's return; I just can't believe God will sit back and do nothing and let Satan have 99 percent of the harvest.

"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call." Joel 2:28-32

We can't just limit this prophecy to 2,000 years ago, because people are still being baptized with the Holy Spirit, and the Second coming has not happened yet.

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deltadom Mar 24, 2019

The Bible says that the apostasy will reveal the antichrist that Jesus himself will destroy the antichrist and that the antichrist comes out of an apostate church
Did you read the Bible verse that I posted
There is evidence for both an end time revival and apostasy in the scriptures

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