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luckyd Jul 9, 2005

what do u people think of aliens. Me for example, i believe they are real. The reason i do is because i saw a ufo. It had about 7 glowing small triangles the size of birds.. these glowing triangles would each bounce around in different directions and each of them would rotate left and right but, for example one would rotate left then right real quick another would rotate right then left and another would rotate more than others but they would all be doing this while bouncing around at the same time in differnt directions.I know it wasnt any kind of craft we have had and more and more people are believing in aliens every year unlike ghost and such. There is good proof and like i said i did see a ufo with my family. please tell me what u all think about aliens and how u feel it goes along with god and the bible.

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saved_matt Jul 22, 2005

for a good view of the alien/UFO phenomenon from a Biblical perspective I would recommend 'Alien Intrusion' by Gary Bates, info on it can be found herehttp://www.answersingenesis.org/home/alienintrusion.aspalso it's reviewed well on amazon.comhope this helps

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Compton Jul 22, 2005

Luckyd,It's so strange that you should ask this question...I just finished watching a DVD copy of "Close Encounters" mere seconds ago! As I was watching the final meeting between humans and the wirey aliens I thought to myself..."This is so demonic." The reason I felt that (discerned that?) is because of the implied evolutionary denial of our faith that these ideas contain. Our "modern" culture has rejected the God of the bible, yet we were created for worship...and so we create stories about other worldly entities that are vastly more evolved then we are and who have come to mentor us into our next stage of evolution.It's difficult to say what it was you actaully witnessed that night with your family. Personally I feel that UFO's such as what you witnessed can be classified under a variety of explanations..ranging from simple misidentifaction, to pathological embellishment, to downright supernatural exhibitions. That there are millions of planets in our universe is not an argument for extra-terrestial evolved life...in fact it's an argument against it. We are finding more and more planets beyond our own system, and so far have't found a single sign of even mocrobial life...Life doesn't just assemble itself from amino acids and gases. Life is a deliberate sanctioned creative act of God. I also feel that alien intrigue is connected to an anti-christ new age gospel of spiritual evolution. An aquaintance recently asked me to watch a popular movie called What The Bleep Do We Know? It's a mystical concoction of science (in the guise of quantum physics) and spirituality...describing how mankind is on the verge of a revolutionary breakthrough where we will be able to effect the material world by our very thoughts and words. (new age WOF) In this strange movie/documentary, a woman who was interviewed appeared to me to be possesed, which is not something I say lightly. In the credits I later read that she was indeed channeling an alien intelligence named "Ramtha." I could literally detect this entity speaking through her in the video.This "alien" was a boastful critter, whose main message was that the Christian God was a primitve backward myth that was holding back mankind. According to this "documentary" Christianity is the worst mistake human civilization has ever made...and the sooner we reject it's notions of "repentance" and "worship" the sooner we can resume our evolution. UFO fascination is a breeding ground for blatent anti-christ philosophies and a denial of the reality of man's fallen condition before his Creator.MC

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philologos Jul 22, 2005

UFO fascination is a breeding ground for blatent anti-christ philosophies and a denial of the reality of man's fallen condition before his Creator.MCI think you are right in all your conclusions on this topic.

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Sentry Jul 22, 2005

Yes...AMEN

sermonindex Jul 22, 2005

Larry Norman had a great song called UFO...and if there's life on other planetsthen i'm sure that He must knowand He's been there once alreadyand has died to save their soulsI think that sums up what our concern about this topic ought to be... short and simple. The gospel according to Larry. I love it.Krispy

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Eli_Barnabas Jul 22, 2005

I agree with you, Compton, and have held this view for quite some time.Dear luckyd, be careful about this issue, I would suggest not pursuing further to gain more information. The Bible teaches us to be innocent of evil, and I believe that's exactly what these things are.Love you brother,-Eli

sermonindex Jul 22, 2005

We're given some really strong warnings in scripture about dabbling in occult activities. If demons can disguise themselves as angels of light... why wouldnt they disguise themselves as UFO's? UFO's and aliens has become a whole religion unto itself. This is called "deception", and it's what Satan does best. People try and seek after knowledge from what they perceive to be more advanced life forms, etc. It's not just "is there more out there" ... it's "what can we learn from them". Anyone ever stop to think that if there is life on other planets, perhaps they are even more stupid than we are??The Bible does not address this issue at all. Therefore I have to believe one of two things... a) it isnt in the Bible because there arent other life forms on other planets, or b) God doesnt consider it important enough for us to waste our time worrying about.The only high life form we should concern ourselves with is God. Period.Krispy

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JaySaved Jul 22, 2005

God created the universe. Only he knows if there are other life forms on other planets. The bible does not mention them, so I don't spend much time wondering if "intelligent life" is out there. Here is a question for you:"If an alien lands on this planet and can understand and speak English, should we witness to him/her/it?" lol

sermonindex Jul 22, 2005

No... the Bible says to go into all the world. Not the universe.(I'm being humorous!)Krispy

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jul 22, 2005

That's funny, Krispy. I've been blessed with the opportunity to intern with NASA several times at NASA Langley Research Center in Virginia. My work with NASA brought me to several of the other NASA bases, including Goddard Space Flight Center (near D.C.), Marshall Space Flight Center (in AL), Stennis (in MS), Glenn (in Ohio), Ames (in northern CA) and JPL (in southern CA). It was an excellent experience. In fact, I may have an opportunity for employment following graduation.A couple of years ago, I was privileged to represent NASA Langley at the Southern Governors Conference (and the Southern Growth Policy Board Meeting) in Puerto Rico. While there, the Governors, Congressmen, various CEOs and other attendees were treated to a dinner and reception at the El Yunque Rain Forest. As we drove on the buses to the Rain Forest, I met several tour guides. They saw my badge (complete with my photo and NASA info) and they asked me to meet with them and their friends at the park. At the park, the tour guides asked whether or not there is a U.S. Government coverup concerning UFOs and aliens. It seemed like they were actually hoping that there was a coverup. So I began to tell them about "large, underground tunnels beneath each NASA base where they transport UFOs for research purposes without getting caught by satellite photographs." As I told them, their eyes grew large (and almost frightened) with wonder. One of them asked, "Are you serious???" I smiled and said, "No. Not at all." As they realized I was being a little sarcastic about their conspiracy theory, they began to laugh. I told them that there was no conspiracy that I could see. I also reminded them that NASA is spending a "budget-busting" fortune to look for bacteria on Mars -- with much of the reason being so scientists can claim that they found life on another planet. I told them, "If the government knows that there are aliens visiting us from other galaxies -- then why is NASA spending billions of dollars to search for plankton?"It opened up an opportunity to share the Lord with these tour guides. I told them that God is a "master planner" with the Universe as his handy work. I began sharing God's historical plan and purpose for humanity with them. I spoke of the fall of man, and the redemptive work of Christ's sacrifice. While I didn't lead anyone in a "sinner's prayer" -- several of them began their pilgrimage with the Lord after the meeting. I still keep in contact with a couple of them, both of whom are now dedicated believers.

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philologos Jul 22, 2005

"If an alien lands on this planet and can understand and speak English, should we witness to him/her/it?" lol There would be no point in doing so. If your alien is not a descendant of Adam he has no kinsman-redeemer.

sermonindex Jul 22, 2005

There would be no point in doing so. If your alien is not a descendant of Adam he has no kinsman-redeemer.Oooo... the wise man has spoken. Very good answer, Philologos! I mean it, that was right on the mark. Wish I had thought of that.Krispy

sermonindex Jul 24, 2005

Okay, i said id stop posting. But this topic is something im STARTING to be more stern on. Or more solid on this.This link will have about 20 hours worth of study on Ezekiel. 1, 2, and 5 are on this topic. All are FREE downloads. If you would like for them to send it to you, they accept donations, but are willing to send it to you for free. I know these guys personally, they are AWESOME. They have alot numerous studies on why Pre-trib is falseAll in all, they describe SCRIPTURALLY. How the fallen angels have put on a 'cloke' or a cloth of some kinda. Throughout there site, in 'weekly webcast' there are other awesome studies.You gotta listen to the studies all the way thru. Because most of your questions would be answered.I don't believe in 'aliens' per-say. But i believe in demons that help aid the coming of the anti-christ.Love ya...i wont be going back on this forum for a month.

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letsgetbusy Jul 24, 2005

Scripture that disproves life on other planets:Gen 3:20 "Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."According to Chuck Missler, two scientists (both non-Christian I think) studied the UFO phenomenon, and gave the word "demonic" as the scientific conclusion. The reasons being: UFO's are focused on man, always seen or plotted around earth (not traveling through space far away for Earth). Interesting theory by Missler is that the "aliens" may be the spirit leftovers of the Nephilim of Genesis chapter 6 (whose fathers were fallen angels, and mothers were of earth). This would explain legends of old of god worship, titans, gods having children with men (Zues and so forth). This brings out a new light concerning the following Scriptures:Gen 6:9, "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations."Dan 2:43, "they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men"Luke 17:26, "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man."Article: http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/43/mp3: http://www.khouse.org/6640/BP052/

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jul 24, 2005

Thanks for the information, Scriptures, and links, letsgetbusy. While I believe that much of UFO claims are bogus, I also believe that some of these claims may be inspired by demonic activity. And even though some of those claims may be totally false, they also serve a wicked purpose. Those false claims take the eyes of many people away from the Lord -- and onto false alternative solutions and hopes. Dr. William Alnor has also written several very good books on the subject. He was a Calvary Chapel pastor in Pennsylvania for several years, but he now works as a journalism professor at the University I attend. He has written several very good books on the subject of UFOs. In fact, he has spoken at several conventions on the issue. His website, www.cultlink.com, contains several resources and articles on the phenomenon.

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letsgetbusy Jul 24, 2005

BTW, in addition to my last thread, I should mention this. When I was about 8 years old, I also saw something that my brother said was probably a "weather balloon." Above my dog's cage, at night, through the screen of my window, I saw a light that I would compare to the size of a pen-light. It was white and completely still, about 10 feet in the air from what I could tell. It moved suddenley, yet smoothly upward and stopped. Then just the same moved over the house. I ran and got my brother to show him what had flown over, and got the typical answer. "It was probably just..."I was fascinated with UFO's, Loch Ness Monster, and the like as a kid. I believe all still have reasonable explanations. If you are sighting them now, guard your mind. I have heard of one case of a Spirit-filled believer (not even sure about that, though) having the "abduction experience," but she invited it, according to the testimony. I stick with the idea that they are demonic, not from another galaxy.

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