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Globalism the battle of new world orders

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deltadom Jan 14, 2020

As a Christian we know that Jesus will return one day and reign and this world will get worse and worse
Islam has a new world order,some christians have a new world order without Jesus
The Jewish are looking for a Messiah without Jesus who will build the third temple and destroy Christian , i was shocked when reading people like Maimonides that some Jewish sects believe in the fact that a jewish Messiah will come through the destruction of Christianity
It is the common misconception that becuase the republicans or the democrats or conservatives or labour or who ever is in power that the devil stops working
We let our guard down when things are going well
Every major religion has a view of the end times it is a battle of eschatology
I have never felt so weak and unwell and worthless at this time
It is interesting when you have studied the major faiths and see the battle against Christians
What i have found most interesting is that most groups us
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I have never felt such a battle for my faith at this time
My main issues i have been studying is the third temple and the antichrist.
I want so much to focus on Jesus more

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savannah Jan 14, 2020


"My main issues i have been studying is the third temple and the antichrist.
I want so much to focus on Jesus more."

So glad to hear that you, "want so much to focus on Jesus more."

Rather than making your main issues of study the third temple and the antichrist.

Especially since there is no third temple in Bible prophecy, nor one in the future who will be "The Antichrist."

Neither a 3rd temple or Antichrist(singular) can be found in Bible prophecy. The word 'antichrist' is not found in the Book of Revelation as many suppose. The only times(4X)that the word 'antichist' is used is in the book of 1st and 2nd John.

https://youtu.be/puG_jl22z2Y

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deltadom Jan 14, 2020

2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, note

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. note

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In verse 4 it says the man of sits in the temple of God and in verse 8 it says that the antichrist is destroyed by Jesus return

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TMK Jan 14, 2020

You are making big assumptions Dom.

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deltadom Jan 14, 2020

What assumptions !
😃

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docs Jan 14, 2020

- No third temple.
- No personal Antichrist.

It comes from the same stream of theology that taught for hundreds of years that the Jewish people would never ever never under any circumstances return to the land once known as Canaan.

Case in point:

"For so long a time has passed away since their [the sons of Israel’s] exile, and…since there has been no restoration of this people, it is certain that this prophecy ought not to be restricted to seed according to the flesh. For there was a prescribed time for the Jews, when the Lord purposed to restore them to their country; and, at the end of seventy years, a free return was granted them by Cyrus. Then Hosea spoke not here of the kingdom of Israel, but of the Church, which was to be restored by a return, composed of both Jews and of Gentiles." (John Calvin)

No restoration of this people? Not during Calvin'S time but what has happened since then?

"With regard to the prophetic expectations of Israel's restoration beyond the return from Babylon, "the expressions are not to be pressed literally because they are symbolical, not proper; typical, not literal; to be explained spiritually and not carnally. Israel is to be restored, not according to the flesh and letter, but according to the promise and spirit (Romans 9); the holy city, not Jerusalem, but the church."

"Certainly there will be a remarkable conversion of the Jews before the end of the world, "not that all will be converted, but that many will...(although we cannot be certain either in what way or when precisely it will take place)....But whatever that calling of them shall be, a restitution of the Jewish polity in the land of Canaan is not to be dreamed of....Besides, this polity was to last only until Christ....Finally, if God had wished to restore that polity, he would never have allowed it to be abolished for so long a time (over sixteen centuries)."

Francis Turretin (1623-1687)Studies at Calvin's Academy in Geneva and later taught there for 30 years.

A restoration of the Jewish polity in the holy land is not to be dreamed of? Well...uh...

Antichrist is not to be a real person? A return wasn't to be literal either.

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deltadom Jan 14, 2020

I referred to the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2 where it specifically states that the son of perdition

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Is this verse plain

Later on in the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

It specifically states that Jesus will destroy the antichrist on his return

I am not a Calvinist so assuming that i am is an assumption

In revelation 19
You have the same thing Jesus destroying the antichrist when he returns in this passage

It is ironic that this was the main topic of my discussion

sermonindex Jan 14, 2020

Well, Dominic, I can hear your heavy heart, and what you need is not a theological debate, but some times of refreshing in our Lord's presence. I hope you can find some genuine Christian fellowship and agape love displayed in your local area. Until then (and afterwards) cleave to our Lord in the closet of prayer.

Kind regards in Christ Jesus,

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deltadom Jan 14, 2020

I do need a refreshing of gods presence

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savannah Jan 14, 2020

"I can hear your heavy heart, and what you need is not a theological debate, but some times of refreshing in our Lord's presence."

I concur.

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"I do need a refreshing of gods presence." Dom

I don't want to stand in the way of that refreshing.

I pray that you will get what you need.

May God be glorified in us...Amen.

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docs Jan 14, 2020

I've been studying the man of sin/lawlessness/Antichrist a bit lately also. I can relate to a degree.

Meanwhile, I've found a bit of refreshing in reading and thinking on the Psalms lately. Every expression of the human heart, from the lowest to the highest, can be found somewhere in the Psalms. David's cure for spiritual lack and thirst seemed to be bold confessions of faith and worship. If that helps.

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deltadom Jan 23, 2020

I have read the Psalms
I think ever since i was told in school about revival and never really experienced it for my self

I know with end times theology the definitive of building a third temple
To me there has been so many archaeological discoveries that have grounded the bible in history and the science has helped
I feel so dry when it comes to biblical revelation , i feel like god does not say anything to me any more
I have always wondered why have i studied massive amounts regarding the scriptures but not been able to give it out or even preach
I feel.so worthless when it comes to relationships.i have so wanted to dig into the scriptures at my level but people get bored so easily
I cry out for mid week Christian fellowship and to be bombarded by the holy spirit's love
I feel so dry regarding gods love

With the scriptures that can be so clear to me can may be not so clear to someone else

I struggled with miracles when i was younger i did not believe in miracles until god healed me in my bedroom.
Without anyone turning up Jesus showed up

As that was years ago you get skeptical regarding miracles and jesus loving you

There was certain prophecies at my baptism that have never come true

As one who has only experienced one miracle i find it really hard

Sometimes i feel i am more like Soloman who screwed up his life he built the temple saw god twice but yet built temples to all the other gods

I so want to be like David and have a heart after Jesus
Can god truly heal all and restore the years that the locusts have eaten

To me there are verses such as the Magog and hog war that can be taken to be at various times through the bible but the bible specifically says that the falling away will reveal the antichrist

What made me think it was near was working at the Christian bookshop and looking desperately for good books but not finding any

It has been so sad seeing Christian bookshops close as that was a safe haven for me , i felt it was like my second home and then having things such as our dog die and not having the Christian fellowship at the bridge feeling a bit of a loose canon never feeling truly part of the body of Christ in church

The bible also says that the antichrist will reside in the third temple

I have always wondered is there light at the end of this dark tunnel
Can i fight like Christian in pilgrims progress

There's something that screams for true Christian fellowship and true revival in my heart as i feel a desperate mess

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RogerB Jan 25, 2020

I'm sorry about your current situation. Hopefully things will begin to improve soon.

We all need more faith. We see problems everywhere. And too often we place our hope in our country's leaders. It's easy to forget that Satan has deceived the whole world or at least is trying too. His goal is to change your way of thinking and move you away from Jesus. If you follow the TV news you will continue to be suckered in to the lies of Satan's kingdom. From a child we have all been told who our enemies are, who to hate, etc. We follow along, trusting blindly. Jesus didn't worship Satan and receive authority over all the earths kingdoms, but someone did.

Turn the TV news off. Stop studying about the historical Jesus and instead seek the risen Jesus. He is still separating the light from the dark. And the enemy is still sowing tares all around. The world has been trapped in the overgrowth of the tree of good and evil for many thousand years. Everyone in that tree has a tenet of religious truth they cling too. All seem happy in that tree. None know they need freeing from it's deceptive branches. We don't know to ask to be freed as we think we are already free. Amazing how deception works. It's a merciful act of Jesus to cut you out of that thing. When you are set free you are free indeed.

From that point on we must stop planting trees of bitterness, hatred, revenge like we used to do. Now we need to plant trees of kindness, love, gentleness, hope for others to sit under and be refreshed. No more trees of slander, gossip, etc, which will have to run their course and bear their fruit. When we look at the sermon on the mount we see Jesus teaching his disciples; "you have heard it said... but I say unto you..' He begins to wash away the old tree. We need to sit at the feet of Jesus, discard those old books we have in our libraries that only espouse theories or the historical Jesus. Jesus said if a man sue you, give him your coat... Don't plant trees of revenge and evil. Plant trees of kindness and good instead.

We must shake the vestiges of that old tree from our lives and ask Jesus for truth and truth alone. Ask him to live in us, to be alive in us. That's how we can expect our prayers to be answered and needs met. The historical Jesus we read about doesn't seem alive. We need the living King in us.

As to the anti-christ spirit, Jesus faced it too. John and Jesus were types of the two witnesses at the end of the age. They witnessed to those in Judea and surrounding areas who were blinded by the Jewish religion of the day.
The pharisees could not see either. They only saw Jesus as an earthen vessel. They couldn't see the living God inside that earthen vessel. Everyone sees us the same way. People see our earthen vessel and think that's all there is but can't really see the real you living in those jars of clay. Remember how Jesus said they could kill the body but not the soul. Also Notice there was an earthquake and a resurrection just like at the end of the age.

Now in order for Satan to deceive you he has to have a messiah and a kingdom and a religious system. If you take a real look at today you will see that we are going to pick back up in Israel where Jesus left off 2000 years. They still don't like Christians. They have enacted the 7 Noahide laws. If you worship Jesus off goes your head according to the punishment prescribed for law number 1. The world is so blinded and the church that they are unknowingly helping to build the antichrist system that will be their own destruction. If you buy a Trump coin or send money to support the system in Israel you are supporting the third temple and the advancement of "The Jewish Utopia". Or you can read the plan under "The Greater Israel Project". America is being used and will be finally thrown under the bus. Satan is a master deceiver.

Get back under the feet of Jesus. Ask him to clean the old tree from your life. It takes time. Seek the tree of life and start planting good trees. Your faith will grow stronger when you see what is really taking place, the deception, the government lies, the brain washing. The governments, schools, and even many of the churches have been infiltrated by the anti-christ system. The rabbis are speaking in churches today and telling the congregation to give up Christ, go back to Judaism. Salvation is of the Jews they proclaim. And you must grab hold of a Jewish man for God is with him. And people are leaving Christ. Didn't Paul say this would happen; "Who has bewitched you...'

Jesus warned us about the anti-christ system. It's going to reappear. It was the fig tree which was cursed long ago. "When you see the fig tree bring forth it's branches and leaves know the end is very near.." It's being built and it's tentacles are everywhere.

Go ahead and laugh me off everyone, I have done my job. I planted a tree of hope for you. Get back under the feet of Jesus. He is your Shepherd. Grab hold of the Jewish man, Jesus. Not just any old Jewish man because not all believe in the same God. The women knew to grab Jesus garment. Don't let the things in the news frighten you or Islam. These are part of the deception. be sure to look at "The Greater Israel Project".

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