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sermonindex Oct 18, 2020

Hi dear rhuomai!

I looked up the Hebrew meaning of that word, having never heard it before.

Here is the meaning found under Strong’s Concordance:

"to draw to oneself, deliver”

Why did you choose that for your name here?

Also, how come you keep addressing TMK as "Tod”, with one "d”?

Finally, what is the meaning of the symbol at the end of your posts, in the place where people often sign their name?

Being draw and delivered in Love,

sermonindex Oct 18, 2020

Caleb,

What is the purpose of this post? This seems very targeted towards an individual in a way that's not very welcoming on a "Welcome & Intro" post. After you yourself gave verbal affirmation on a post about showing long-suffering, and unity in another, to then immediately create a thread to [discreetly] call out a poster is lacking self-awareness to say the least.

I was genuinely blessed by the grace and wisdom of Rhuomai's post with Michael L. I don't know Rhuomai but that exchange is exactly what I needed to hear, being someone in the same stage of life as Michael. It seems like he was blessed as well. If I had a father in the faith a few years ago when I was all full of zeal but lacking sanctification and focus on what really mattered at that time (the speck in my own eye) I could have saved myself a lot of trouble.

Secondly, I understand that every once in a while a mystery poster will appear, appointing himself as a prophet, and write a verbal essay against the church but then refuse to engage the audience. I don't get that sense of Rhuomai. I see him asking questions to clarify in each communication and writing short direct points that gets to the heart of the issue. Why is he in the wrong just because you disagree with his style of writing? One poster, Todd (with two d's... please can we not assume a simple spelling mistake has a sinister meaning?)said Rhuomai "pontificates". Do all the speakers on this site pontificate then? Does Todd realize that most people across the world may not speak in the style and common vernacular of an American and have had very formal training in English... not to mention most people do speak seriously about spiritual matters, because... well, it's serious?

When Todd, you needed to address a serious spiritual matter with your pastor I'm sure this "open and affirming" pastor at least gave you the courtesy to listen to your points? Yet instead of extending that same courtesy to your brother in Christ you mock is style of writing and others mock him with sarcasm. At that point if someone points out you are in the flesh, how are they wrong? We can all be in the flesh and thank God for the grace he gives us through his church to get back on track. Today he may have been the iron that sharpens you and tomorrow you could be the iron that sharpens him... but instead these seems to be a clique that's forming to target one man.


Rhuomai- I don't know you, but I do hope you continue to post here as the Lord leads. Others will obviously weight your words with the Word of God, as I'm sure you will with others, but at least I hope you get the courtesy to be treated as a brother and not with unwarranted suspicions, unless you prove otherwise.

T
TMK Oct 18, 2020

May-

If you cannot see the pomposity of rhuomai’s posts then you are not looking very closely. He essentially accuses those who do not see things exactly as he does of being in the flesh or doomed to destruction.

Do you have reason to believe that a language barrier is the reason? If so please tell us. Personally I don’t think that has anything to do with it.

He has entered the forum and set himself up as the final arbiter of the truth.

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deogloria Oct 18, 2020

Exactly right Todd
I sensed this long time ago.

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

The name or the term rhuomai is a greek term and it means as you have given its meaning. The term ܡܫܚܐ is old Syriac and appears in numerous extant codices. Its meaning is the same as the Hebrew verb מָשַׁח (mashach) and means to anoint with oil.


ܡܫܚܐ

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

I do apologise Todd for misspelling your name as I have done several times. It was not a wilful act.

I have to say Todd that I am a little taken aback by your view of my posts. What I cannot say is that they are not wilful and that they are not directed at a true meaning. I suppose that it would be best if you were to ignore me brother else you may stumble into a bitter spirit.

In return I will try to disregard you as well if that helps.

ܡܫܚܐ

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

Thank you for standing up for me. I would rather that it were not necessary to have to post in defence of my person. I understand what is being done and it is a spiritual matter that has to do with the direction of things and little to do with myself in truth.

As for being suspicious - then I am afraid suspicion is a reserve of the natural mind even with the apostle Paul who was not received in Jerusalem. It took a prophet to take him to one side and bring him to the other apostles. I am not offended by what is said in that regard. It's perhaps more of a spiritual means to remove a man than to hear a man. Yet if I choose to direct myself at a man by name then what have I to complain that he directs himself to have me removed?

Your first post and what a marvel it is!

ܡܫܚܐ

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

Markus,

May I ask you brother how my 'signature' is offensive to you?

ܡܫܚܐ is akin to Aramaic (to anoint) and is one of the oldest extant codices of the New Testament Scriptures in existence. It is from the Peshitta. In Arabic the word is مسح and that same word (anoint) is used in Qur'an to falsely speak of Christ in the term الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى. When words are used to make a false presentation then even innocent words are false - yet they cannot of themselves cause offence unless we discern them to be false and against the truth of God and Christ. So in asking you this question I am simply asking how an old Syriac word - to anoint (with oil) can be offensive to you!

ܡܫܚܐ

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

Hi dear MayInBoston,

Thank you for calling me out! It’s caused no small amount of reflection, and I’m remiss for the lack of self awareness you mentioned, along with any disrespect toward rhuomai and this Welcome & Intro forum. Would you please forgive me?

My purpose was to get to know rhuomai better (although I was admittedly troubled by the spirit of some earlier posts toward Michael, Todd & Jade). I now realize aspects of my approach here were passive aggressive and immature. It’s embarrassing, but a good lesson.

Humbled,

D
deogloria Oct 19, 2020

Rhuomai

"In Rome we should do as the Romans..."
And in an English forum we should use English words, or at least give us the English word in ( brackets )
But I have now removed the comment about your signature in my previous post

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

Dear rhuomai,

You really blessed me with your answers to a couple of my questions. Thank you for sharing! Even in your reply I had to look up two more words. Hah! "Extant codices”....interesting!

Mostly, I am still rejoicing to see the love and humility that came forth between you and brother Michael later on in your conversation. That really made my day after how grieved I had been at the candor between you, Todd and Jade especially.

May grace abound among us to have gentleness of speech toward one another at all times, even when speaking truth in love.

B
billy1980 Oct 19, 2020

I for one look forward to more discussions with rhuomai in our Lord Jesus Christ as an older brother! That I can learn from Him through Christ Jesus.

"Why do we divide and tear to pieces the body of Christ, and raise up strife against our own body and have reached such a height of madness as to forget that we are members of one another?" Clement

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

I am so glad to see where this thread has gone, and Caleb, you have no need of any forgiveness from me.

Todd & Deogloria- When you were the one committing the sin of pride how did Christ deal with you? A public lynching and scolding? Excommunication from his church? Maybe that would be a good starting point for your dealing with someone you assume is in that same sin.

God bless.

T
TMK Oct 19, 2020

//A public lynching and scolding?//

You mean like you just did?

sermonindex Oct 19, 2020

Touché.

If you were on the receiving end of this, including a whole thread labeled "TMK”, I would speak up for you too.

I did not scold you for any of your personal traits, perceived sins, or perceived deficits. I just asked you to extend grace to a participant on this forum for their style of speech, and you have made it clear that you feel differently.

So let’s just leave it at that.

N
narrowpath Nov 2, 2020

So ܡܫܚܐ alias Rhuomai alias amrkelly has vanished again?

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Romaric Nov 2, 2020

I have known Rhuomai for many years and I'm surprised the recent comments he posted have resulted in him being banned. I have read through the recent posts made and I would genuinely want to understand what was said that would cause such a response to be necessary by the moderator? I am new to this site and it was recommended by Rhuomai, so its perplexing that Greg has decided on this course of action.

I would greatly appreciate clarification on this issue.

Romaric

sermonindex Nov 3, 2020

Banned?!

I was just about to respond to another thread and let Rhuomai know that *some* of what he shared was starting to make sense to me, and also how one of his other posts had been a blessing.

This is really unfortunate...

sermonindex Nov 3, 2020

So ܡܫܚܐ alias Rhuomai alias amrkelly has vanished again?

Yes brother, unfortunately he has been asked to not participate in the forums. A major reason is the "accusatory" tone to individuals, and confusing posts that really are misleading for believers such as the one on islam. The forums here are not a preaching site people to have a personal pulpit but rather the discussion forums are a humble place to learn, ask questions and try and grow together in the Lord. It was initially geared for discussions around the actual sermons on SermonIndex itself.

I am going to lock this thread now.

This discussion is locked.

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