Hi All
For balance to the recent posts
Here is a Pastor I Follow on Youtube that has put this up in the last few hours.
She had not previously Prophesied that Trump would be President but she has today .So opposite to those Prophetic voices that have apologized.Have a listen and decide for yourselves .
urs staff
Prophetic Word: Trump Will Remain the President & An Apology.
Thanks for posting this. I like the view that, the avenues we were looking to for a solution may not be the way the Lord decides to get it done. We were talking and praying of course over many things, but remembering the wall of fire God placed between His people and the Egyptian army. Our God seems to like last minute showdowns. Praying and hoping for the 4th man to show! Amen
Rusty
Hi Rufnrust,
I think you are right and all sides of the "will he or wont he" debate will recognise that scripturally God is the God of last minute showdowns.
I cant remember a "Red Sea Moment" similar to this on an international stage where God has to make the way or else the Eygptian Armies will prevail on God's people.
Brexit was an almighty work of God to seperate Great Britian from the EU which is a satanic entity to its core.
2016 US election was a mighty miracle mocked as impossible for a year before that.
This is on a whole different level again because a hoped for Judgement is involved and its International in scope and scale .When history is recalled in heaven to show how great and wonderful the Lord is then this will be up there with the Red Sea,praying for a miracle,urs staff
My prayer has been that if fraud has been committed the God of Truth would not allow it to succeed.
One might argue that God may want to use the fraud to hasten judgment on America.
But I even prayed that if God wants to judge America to do it His own way, but not by allowing fraud of evil people to succeed.
If there has been no meaningful fraud, then moot point.
I just thought better of my comments and deleted them.
Thank you.
A great question is this...
Is she obeying the Word of God by being a pastor? What does the Word say about this?
I am finishing a missionary book and a lady is in the Philippines translating. At one point one of the men in the village comes upon the scripture about men being the teacher and gets quiet. Eventually he takes his position and learns the Word and becomes the teacher to his people while she continues the translation. I wondered how this would go when I read it and it turned out great. It was odd since it was more pragmatic for the missionary to do the preaching but the Word but the missionary and this elder obeyed the Word and God gave His blessing.
THe book is called 'And the Word came in Power' published by Wyclife bible translators. if you are interested. I bought it at their mussum in Orlando.
by Joanne Shetler (Author), Patricia Purvis (Contributor)
Quote: by Joanne Shetler (Author), Patricia Purvis (Contributor)
So there is a lesson you want us to learn; that men are meant to be the teacher.
And you want us learn this through a book from two women.
On the floor laughing...
Is she obeying the Word of God by being a pastor? What does the Word say about this?
This is a valid concern brother you are raising. There are so many voices raising up, people naming ministries after themselves. People declaring themselves prophets or apostles.
Prophetic words are cheap now, everyone has them and gives them out as fast as possible. Almost never are these "prophetic" words towards sin, comprimise or repentance of believers.
We have the words of God brethren, are they not enough? Our kingdom is of heaven and why is the church all of a sudden over infactuated with the politics of america? Can it be God is showing us that there is much of the kingdom of earth still in our hearts?
Who cares about America, what about the Church? God's concern is the body of Christ to be healthy so it can be a true light to the dying world around her.
Hi all,
I firmly believe their was fraud.As well as all the hours testimony to the state Legislatures,the clear video of fraud in GA and the dominion machine audit in Wisconsin,we also have the unconstitutional voting.
Wisconsin-2000000 illegal absentee ballots
Philidelpia-Judiciary change rules which is unconstitutional
GA-Same
If anyone doubts their was fraud please spend some time looking at the evidence given to the legislatures of the swing states as I did.
We have Rudy Giuliani who brought down the mob crime families in New York on the record about what he thinks.
Also 5 full states stopped counting at around the same time in early morning and all of a sudden hundreds of thousands of ballots suddenly appeared.This never happened before,
If their was no fraud why were poll observers harrassed ,kicked out and kept away from seeing the ballots?Why did election officials put up cardboard to stop people seeing?and most importantly why did governors and judges stop real audits go ahead but put up every kind of barrier to stop this happen?If their was nothing to hide their would have been no problem audit and it would have made Trump look foolish.Why would Joe Biden not want to double check everything unless their was fraud and they were hiding it,He would have started his term by showing he won fair and square to everyone and partially unite the country.
Off all the cases that were brought to court the judiciary refused to hear evidence except for two I think and those two were victories for Trump.Judge McCollough from Wisconsin said that on the merits of the case in front of her if it goes to the Supreme court it will be successful.
Then ask yourself this why are you believing a false prophet like CNN ,Msnbc ,Fox about the election when they clearly lied about Opinion Polls in 2016 and 2020,some of them pushed collusion and impeachment which were total lies as well as inciting violence on your streets with BLM which is just a militia for the democratic party.
If you dont understand that BLM are communist then look at this video of Patrisse Colors the Co founder of BLM in response to a complaint from a communist terrorist in jail.
"We are trained organisers,we are trained marxists,we are super versed on ideological theories"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8
Then ask yourself why so little Spiritual discernment?
You have a group of people that support planned parenthood,Anti Semitism,BLM violence and murder,gender politics,the gay agenda ,open borders which means no national governments (a thing God hates),not to mention all the antics in the last 4 years and you are considering what they are saying is actually true?
By their fruits.......
urs staff
P.s do please have a look at that 2minute video clip and as well as whats being said listen to the sickening tone of the interviewer .
Hi Greg,
I know you cant look at every post,its out of the question but let me give this example.
ON PROPHESY
Elijah has 450 false prophets on Mt Carmel and Obadiah hid 100 True prophets in two caves .Elijah wins the competition but he kills the 450 false prophets ,he doesnt kill the 450 and the 100 prophets because that would be saying you know so many Prophets are false ,liars ,in it for personal gain or are just deluded that if I kill all of the Prophets I will get rid of the problem of prophesy all
together.
You cant throw the baby out with the bathwater.You cant kill all prophesy just because part even a greater part is rubbish.Its not possible to explain the Joel Prophesy away as well.
ON PAUL
Paul says No the words of the brethren are not enough.These words have to Exhort,Console and Edify and they have to come directly from the heart of God (Every word that comes from the heart of God is doctrinally and biblically correct)
"We have the words of God brethren, are they not enough?"
ON CHRISTIANS CALLING THEMSELVES BY THERE GIFTINGS
Anyone who calls themselves by their giftings such as saying I am Apostle Michael or I Am Prophet Frank or I am Pastor Patrick are causing a big problem.They are opening up the body to disunity and wrong authority to the point of witchcraft.
On Women Pastors
Greg I believe correct me if I am wrong I heard you debate for he wearing of head covering for women in the past and to be honest I couldnt agree with you at all on that doctrine and this woman seems to lead a group ,I dont know how many and she loves the Lord and not too much of a fruit cake as far as I heard .So you may be far away from her doctrinally wise but she loves the Lord and says she is hearing from him
urs staff
Well said Brother Greg.
The church has become too carried away with prophecy in these times but the only thing we need is the Bible. Prophecy has its place and time. I am shocked at how much the church believers have idolized Trump, idolized politics, idolized the republican party, idolized government and the constitution. God will share his glory with no man. Mathew 7:13 ...... For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. The United States, Politics, republican party or Trump is no savior to this country or no savior of the world. Our Savior is Jesus Christ. I rarely hear anything about Jesus Christ these days, rarely here anything about Gods word anymore. All I hear and see now is TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP and by the church. For the sake of being decent here, I would like to show a post I saw of this group and a specific woman had her breast exposed to show a painting of her stomach and upper chest that said God Bless Trump, but I will not. Wow how crazy have we become. Do not be deceived! The World and this country needs Jesus NOT TRUMP. Listen carefully, in the ten commandments it teaches us not to use the Lords name in vain. This man cannot be cursing people, mocking people, causing destruction, and at the end of the day say God bless you. What?! Wake Up everyone. I have heard every excuse pastors and believers have made to justify this man, and all it is is covering the multitude of sins. We will not change the world with politics, we will change it with the Gospel and the Holy Spirit. If you voted, then leave it at that. Stop trying to justify a man. Justify the Gospel to unbelievers. Can you imagine unbelievers right now in American? Do you think they want this so called God of your right now with politics? Like I said, I am shocked at the church right now.
Hi Jrg,
So No Christian I know that supports Trump Idolizes him.They realize like Cyrus he was just a man,just a man but we praise God for bringing him along so that people like you and me can have freedoms to express our faith.This is all about God.We glorify God for answering our prayers unexpectedly.
The problem with your post is that you dont recognize these things.
1.He is Pro Life and appointed pro life judges
2 He is pro the Nation state and against a one world government
3 He has brought prayer back into the White house
4 He has named Jesus Christ as Lord from a White house podium(you must not have been listening when he mentioned Jesus)Trump has not taken the name of the Lord in Vain.
5 He has been completely Pro Israel and has recognized Jerusalem as Israels Capital
6 He Supports Freedom of Speech
If we dont support Trump we are supporting the following
1 Abortion and More Babies dying
2 We support becoming part of One World State and system
3 God or Jesus will not be recognized in the highest office in the land
4 We will be supporting Anti Semitism and eventually a Holocoust
5 We will be supporting Militia Violence through BLM a wing of the Democrat Party
6 We will be supporting Censorship and the shutting down of Sermonindex
The Choice is clear do you want to support Abortion or do you want to support an imperfect man supporting and promoting the correct things?
The complaints Ive heard from Christians about Donald Trump amount to "he sips water out of a bottle in a funny manner" or Donald Trump used the "F Word and it hurts my delicate sensiblities" or "Donald Trump has a rough manner".
How dare Jesus kick over the moneychangers tables,such violence ,he cant be from God!,John The Baptist well id believe him if he were a little softer in tone ,hes just too fiery for me and dont let me start on about Paul who instead of standing and being marytred for the Gospel escaped in a basket ,he couldnt possibly one of us.
What sins has he committed that you or I havent?
No leader in the US has done more for Christians in our lifetimes.America did not elect a Pastor,they elected a President.
This is not about Justifying a man wrongly but I will justify him if he has done the right things ,its about glorifying a Great God who on November 8th 2016 stopped a very evil person from becoming President and put in an imperfect man with a nature just like ours into office to become a buffer against evil for Christians,
urs staff
Many Christians will not be pleased no matter what God does
17‘ We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.’ 18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’…
I think the main question before the church now is not whether they are for President Trump or against him. The question is have the many prophets who strongly prophesied he would serve another four years brought FALSE or TRUE prophecies? They have either been right or they have been wrong. That is the bottom line issue.
Hi Docs,
Yeah I agree this is a bottom line issue,were the prophecies true or false.
The sub issues are
A Is prophecy for today
B What to do with False Prophets or Christians that make false Prophecies in the New Testament Church
C Has God put President Trump in Office to do his bidding and how do we know that.
and one more thing for me anyway
As Christians how can we posslibly trust CNN,MSNBC etc who have told and peddled falshoods,incited and supported violence against conservatives and have pariticipated in mass censorship of Christian voices is beyond me and I can only put it down to some delusion.
I am looking across at King David wondering what on Earth is King David doing trying to line up with the enemies of God,urs staff
I don't think very many Christians at all trust those networks or put their trust in what they say. That seems a straw man argument born out of frustration. The Christians I know are trying to discern God's voice. If these prophets have spoken falsely then their word has been as harmful as those networks because they said they were speaking from the Lord. We are still waiting to see what was what.
Hi Docs
Its not at all a strawman arguement.
If Christians were not listening or being effected by main stream media then they would not be putting up the arguements we are listening too.Why are we not able to discern the simple stuff.
Such as
A-Their is no evidence of Election fraud or Voter fraud and that the election was rigged.They would rather listen to the CNN version than listen to the millions of Christians who have said that it is.Peoples lives were and are in jeopardy who testified under avadavit and may end up in Jail for taking a stand.
B-I dont like Trump because of his manner,how could he be Gods man.A narrative straight from main stream media sown,watered and harvested over the last four years.
The dogs in the streets know it was not a free and fair election and even now late in the day when we are under the heaviest censorship we have ever endured we have Christians still standing where David found himself and the Philistines.
This arguement is fair game
A Is Prophesy for today
B Are these Prophecies true or False
urs staff
I don't get the sense at all Christians have tuned into those networks, nor are saying that prophecy is not for today. They are saying it remains to be seen whether or not they have been prophesied to falsely regarding Trump's next four years. I've heard prophecies and words stating that the prophetic movement is about to be humbled down to zero like a stump because it has become so mixed with man and presumption. This will be done to help restore the prophetic office to its TRUE definition and function. We shall see. I'm not going to say anymore but prefer prayer and waiting at this point.
Thank you.
Hi Docs,
That the Prophetic movement is going to be humbled that is indeed nessacary because of the rubbish and piano playing nonsense attached to it.The majority of people who have said 4 more years and were tagging along for the ride have apologized already and will have no credibility.
Who made these prophecies you heard?rhetorical
Will they be humbled if he does get 4 years more.
The lie being peddled is that "we have become so mixed up with a man "(im not talking about you lying but you said it so well)
Christians who have supported Trump are giving God the Glory for giving us a leader like him.So regardless of whether he gets 4 years Christians have not been duped by a man .Supporting Trump is not about Trump the imperfect man but God the perfect God who can use anyone.
When Joshua died they mourned him not because they became so mixed up with Joshua that they took their eyes of God.They mourned him because he was such a great leader.
Its Apostolic doctrine that needs to be restored to the Church because Apostles sort out bad prophets!
urs staff
Like I said, I'm saying mo more. Time is soon to let us know one way or the other. Whatever He does and which ever way He causes it to go will be all right with me since He is sovereign.
Whether Trump or Biden is President!
Here is a Christian Perspective on our current world situation
Christians we need a real spiritual revival that will cause many of us to get back to our first love.
Many have left the peace of Jesus for fear of what’s going to happen to the USA. We shouldn’t let anything cause us to loose our peace. If we have lost our peace it is because we have gotten our eyes off of Jesus and His great love!
Isaiah 26:3-4
3 Thou wilt keep [him] in perfect peace, [whose] mind [is] stayed [on thee]: because he trusteth in thee.
4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH [is] everlasting strength:
We Christians are suppose to have perfect peace because we are trusting in the Lord! We are strangers and pilgrims only passing through. This world is not our home. The sooner Jesus raptures His church and comes back to destroy this evil world the better it will be!
God has not called Christians to make America great. He has called us to make Christ known and exalt His greatness! Why are so many Christians so focus on what some think is going to happen to the USA (a world that will soon be destroyed by fire anyway) that we have lost our joy of an eternal glorious world kingdom to come. There are so many preachers that are now preaching false and fearful information instead of the true gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. We are not to take over the USA to make it patriot Christian nation. That is the wrong war to be fighting! We are to be in the world but not of it. We are to be salt and light. We are to win is many lost souls as we can before it is too late. God will destroy this nation as well as the whole world in His time. Then he will make all things new.
The mission of the Christian is not to follow Trump or Biden but only Jesus. It is to pray for all government officials so we can lead a quiet and peaceful life. It is not to join a political party and be divided from the other party. The mission of Christians is to reach the lost and disciple believers in the Kingdom of God...not to be worried about what is going to happen to the world.
We should be more focused on the Kingdom of God! It is time to turn all the propaganda news off and get into the good news. There is conservative propaganda news as well as liberal propaganda. We Christians should not be watching the news more than we are reading our Bible and praying. We should be hearing from God not men’s opinions.
Search the scriptures! Where does it say that it is a political battle that we Christians are to be involved in? It’s not a political battle but a spiritual battle!
Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
Jesus has not joined the Republican Party against the Democrat party! It is a terrible sin to misrepresent the Lord. His kingdom is not of this world. We should be praying for all people.
The Bible tells us to not speak evil of others. We should not slander others nor speak evil of others whether Democrats or Republicans. God is not pleased with the way so many Christians are judging and speaking hateful about others because of their political affiliation. God will discipline those that are truly his, and those who refused to be disciplined according to the scriptures are bastards and not his children. Christians need to stop pointing the finger or we will be judged by God. We all need the grace of God. We have all have sinned and need forgiveness!
Are you a true follower of Christ?
1 Peter 2:21-25 (KJV)
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously:
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
Please Christians, wake up before it is too late! We must follow Christ and trust His Word! You could die tomorrow with a heart attack from anxiety, anger, and fear because you have a misplaced hope. Will you be ready to meet the Lord?
God has put a great concern in my heart for His people not to leave their love for Christ and be deceived!
Please repent and get on your knees in prayer! Renew your heart, let him restore your peace. Jesus gives us His peace that passes all understanding ! If you are living in fear then you are not trusting in the Lord!
He that hath ears to hear let him hear!
Love you all in Christ!
Pastor Roger Banks
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