Meena Harris tweets on persecution of minority religions in India

I was very encouraged to see Meena Harris who is the niece of VP Kamala Harris, mentioning persecution in India for minority religions. Good to see her take a stand against Hinduthva government who is suppressing minorities. Hope the Biden government will take a stronger and stricter stand against this Hindutva government and put pressure on them.

Here is a copy of her tweet -

"This isn't just about agricultural policy. It's also about the persecution of a vocal religious minority. It's police violence, militant nationalism, and attacks on labor rights. It's global authoritarianism. Don't tell me to stay out of your affairs. These are all of our issues."

Sree,

Apparently you haven’t looked into this person much...
surely you don’t agree with most anything else she says ?
Not to mention the anti-biblical "ambitious girl” book she wrote or the cursing and other posts ... are those also reflective of your positions?

Sreeram,

Here is another viewpoint on that. I have some friends in India. They said that the Indian PM is a pure nationalist. He is the Indian version of Trump. Same goes for the British PM. They are all like reformers for their countries. Consider this if one is for nationalism then how does that go along with the current globalism trend. If she is related to Kamala then she is most likely a leftist/democrat. If that is the case she probably has the spirit of tolerism in her. And if that is the case then it still doesn't look good for Christians.

I don't think her intentions are to protect a minority group so much as it is to be tolerating. This is the spirit of the age we live in now.

I want to clarify that just because I appreciate her mentioning religious persecution in India, I don't stand with everything that she says. Same thing as those who support Trump in this forum separate themselves from his unchristlike rude behaviors!

My point is simple, if this influences the Biden administration to take a tuff stand against the current Hindutva government in India and its atrocities against religious minorities, then it is good for Christians. We need to appreciate something good even if it comes from a worldly politician. That is how I appreciated the good I received from Trump as well!

Perhaps it is good for the very short term in India but any nationalist mindset is a roadblock for the globalist agenda. This was one of the primary reasons that they hated Trump. Now you have the British PM and the Indian PM.

Here is another viewpoint on that. I have some friends in India. They said that the Indian PM is a pure nationalist. He is the Indian version of Trump. Same goes for the British PM. They are all like reformers for their countries. Consider this if one is for nationalism then how does that go along with the current globalism trend. If she is related to Kamala then she is most likely a leftist/democrat. If that is the case she probably has the spirit of tolerism in her. And if that is the case then it still doesn't look good for Christians.

I agree with your point in comparing Trump and Indian PM. There are a lot of similarities. Both use kindling nationalist feelings to their advantage. Both use the majority religion in their country as their vote bank. The only thing is Christianity believes in giving freedom to other religions but Hinduism does not. Hindus are by default intolerant towards religions that oppose their view. They are inclusive only when other religions are inclusive, they cannot associate themselves with exclusive ideas of Christianity. We clearly believe Jesus is the only way. If we say Jesus is also one of the ways then Hindus will have no problem worshipping Jesus as one of their gods and take some good portions from his teachings!

I differ with you about globalism. As Christians, we should welcome globalism even if it is at the expense of our own national interests. What is our chief goal on this earth? To make America great again or to hasten the coming of Christ's kingdom? To spread the Gospel or to be part of a rich nation like the USA? If it is to spread the gospel then globalism is the thing that we should encourage. Because the world is coming together with global visibility, we are able to take the gospel to China, talk about persecution in China, talk about persecution in Muslim nations. Globalism is clearly taking the gospel to remote parts of the world where the Gospel has not reached before.

I myself came to the USA as a Hindu in 2008. But it is this globalism that brought me here. If we had anti immigration policies of American nationalists then I won't have come here. It is in the USA away from my own Hindu family influence, I got the gospel.

I am not against nationalism, but as Christian, we need to appreciate the visibility and reach that globalism is bringing.

Today in India if you are not a Hindu you are considered as an antinationalist or a traitor, definitely, a guy like me who left Hinduism is seen as a traitor by so called Indian nationalists!

I don't support nationalism either but I'm just mentioning that is a threat to the globalist agenda. I did support Trump for his pro christian policies though.

When I say globalist agenda I'm referring to the kingdom of the antichrist and the stuff that's in the book of Revelation.

When I say globalist agenda I'm referring to the kingdom of the antichrist and the stuff that's in the book of Revelation.

Yes agreed. But God always fools the devil by using his agenda to God's advantage. Here too God is using the devil's agenda of globalism to spread the Gospel to unreached tribes. While we know that in the end times antichrist will come as a world ruler, it is also true that in the end times the gospel will be preached to all nations. Before that, the end will not come as Jesus said.

True.

Stating that God can use things intended for evil for good is not the same as promoting evil (globalism) in the name of good...
that’s like saying my house is on fire so let’s pour gas on it so I can get the full insurance claim 😳

Stating that God can use things intended for evil for good is not the same as promoting evil (globalism) in the name of good...
that’s like saying my house is on fire so let’s pour gas on it so I can get the full insurance claim

Nationalists are also evil. Every system that comes from unregenerated men is equally evil. I do not believe a Christian can be a nationalist or patriotic. Even to be proud about the nation of our birth is equally evil. Most Christians in the USA do not even realize this evil. I was raised with a lot of nationalistic feelings but when I came to Christ, I realized those are evil.

Globalism has many advantages, in fact when Christ comes it will be only one kingdom and one rule. If a Christian cannot support globalism then he cannot support nationalism as well as all those who want to make one nation great on this earth! Both are not the spirit of Christ.

A Christian can see how he can advance the kingdom of God under both these and use it for the glory of God.

I am neither for nationalism nor globalism but I can see how under both we can find a way to advance the kingdom of God.

Thank you for clarifying your position as it surely helps prevent misunderstandings. Yours is an interesting position and if you’ll indulge me I’d very much appreciate being able to inquire further :)

I understand and appreciate your expounding a bit on the nature (fallen) of duality within all earthly systems. The same could be applied to blm/patriots
antifa/proudboys - I believe you are saying that ultimately these are but two sides of the same (evil/fallen) coin? and that true freedom comes by faith alone in Christ alone, not by any earthy man made system of organization.

Yet, did not our Father establish, preserve, defend, chasten, etc... the Nation of Israel ?
Not just a people but even a place with boarders drawn by the hand of God to distinguish it as a separate Nation unto Himself ?

Are you suggesting that the Lord is quietly cheering for globalism ?
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding when I read your words regarding the "virtues” to it 🤷🏽”â™‚️

In any case the scriptures declare from beginning to end that the God of the Bible is not neutral, but exclusively intentional towards the end He seeks...

true freedom comes by faith alone in Christ alone, not by any earthy man made system of organization.

Yes, that is my point. Every man-made system is corrupt but has some merits to it. There is no mention in the entire Bible of people choosing their leaders by themselves, yet today democracy is the most powerful system. It surely has its own merits, but demerits as well. As lawlessness increase among people, the government they elect will also be lawless.
The best one out of all these systems is secular where the state should not care about the religion of its people. I stand for secularism, where I do not want Government to involve with my religion nor will I allow my religion to change the government. Even that comes from disadvantages or misunderstanding. Today in India many educated people think secularism is bad.

Yet, did not our Father establish, preserve, defend, chasten, etc... the Nation of Israel ?

That is under the old covenant where God chose a nation (or a tribe) out of this earth for himself. Old Covenant is now abolished.

Under the new covenant, it is Christians who are chosen out of their nations to form a holy nation of God.

1 Peter 2:9 - "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."

My faithfulness is for this holy nation that God chose me to be part of. My patriotism is for this nation not for any earthly nation. I care least on who rules the earthly nation. My only prayer is for these earthly rulers to give me the freedom to be part of my holy nation (1 Tim 2:2).

I guess the fear and acknowledgement of the Lord and the gospel had been a very important foundation of the USA.

But now there is open rebellion against this foundation and so much disrespect of God among the christian churches.

While we may see things differently and ultimately disagree on many of these points, there is no need for me to parse them out, as we do agree on the primary point which is faith in Christ is the only answer 🙏🏻 To that end I am grateful for your willingness to indulge my questions and further clarity your position-

May the grace and mercy of the Lord be upon you and your house and may the faith of our Lord Jesus be the light upon your path 😇