BSBKJVWEBYLTASVBBEWMBT4TDBY|HymnsMusicDonate
Menu
General

ray comfort?

L
luckyd Jul 21, 2005

i saw someone say lets not get into a debate over him and then give an example of something that he saw ray comfort do. I have liked lots of his ways, but now i feel like maybe lots of christians have a problem with him...is there something wrong with how he teaches and what he does?

sermonindex Jul 21, 2005

No, There is nothing wrong with this man's ministry. I would encourage you to not just discuss about the faults of men or try to pick at them but rather look to Jesus and the teaching of the word of God. Every man's doctrine can vary at points. I personally love the emphasis that Ray Comfort puts on evangelism and law. And law as the precurser to the gospel message being given.Before this discussion continues on please listen to this sermon by this man of God:Hell's Best Kept Secret by Ray Comforthere are some comments on this item:Got your Parachute on? (August 15/2004)Reviewed by: repenterThis is a super message on how modern evangelicalism has usurped and watered down the gospel to the point that the actual gospel is not being preached. Ray shows us how we need to use the law to point people to the cross. He uses wit and humour to help us see how we need to change our thinking from the modern gospel of telling people they need to be saved because it will merely "improve their lives" to showing people that they are sinners based on God's law, and they need to repent of their sins to escape the wrath to come. Get ready to have even your own salvation challenged as you listen to Hell's Best Kept Secret. Best Sermon I've Heard (September 28/2004)Reviewed by: letsgetbusyThis message changed my Christian walk and evangelistic endeavors more than any other sermon ever. To me this is a must hear for everyone that is serious about getting people saved. If there is something missing from your church or personal faith, this is the one to hear. I first heard this message about two years ago, and have passed copies of it out, talked about it, and used the methods ever since. After not listening to it for about a year, I once again sat down and listened to the entire message, and it still brings tears. Great soul-winning message!

C
couch Jul 21, 2005

I have personally met Ray Comfort - And he is a wonderful, humble man who has a sincere love for the Lord and sincere zeal to see the lost find life in Him.Read "Out of the Comfort Zone" for more information about his life and ministry, it is his autobiography, available at livingwaters.com.I thoroughly recommend him, and praise God for how he used him in my own life!

sermonindex Jul 21, 2005

ray comforts style of evangelism is probably the best there is. i like him a lot...(sorry for the lower case... 2 yr old on the lap...)krispy

J
JaySaved Jul 21, 2005

When I first listened to "Hell's Best Kept Secret", I was blown away. It answered so many questions I had.Not a week before I heard the message, I thought to myself (obviously prompted by the Holy Spirit), "What does the word 'Saved' really mean, 'Saved' from what?"I had gotten to the point of viewing 'Saved' as a proper noun, instead of the verb that it should be. Saved from Hell, Saved from wrath, Saved from condemnation, Saved into the loving grace of our Lord Jesus.Ray Comfort is a man of God and he has renewed the fire in my soul. God forgive me for ever letting it die down.

H
hredii Jul 21, 2005

luckyd wrote:but now I feel like maybe lots of christians have a problem with him... Yes many Christians do have a problem with him. I believe the reason that Christians would have a problem with Ray is because they do not have a proper understanding of the law.is there something wrong with how he teaches and what he does?There are maybe very very small insignificant things he does or teaches that I don’t agree with... nothing comes to my mind right now. I believe that people questioned Paul and Peter and Jesus Himself with this question. There will always be those that are against the truth even in Christian fellowship.Also I have seen someone totally against Ray Comfort's teaching and repent and come to embrace his teaching. Because he did not have a proper understanding of the law in evangelism at first.

D
dann Jul 21, 2005

Phil Johnson's Bookmarks couldn't decide whether to put "living waters" ministries under "helpful theology" or under "bad theology." so he put it under "miscellaneous" christian resources.While Phil points out that Hell's best kept Secret is a "superb" sermon - he laments that "[Ray] never seems to get around to preaching the gospel with the same kind of clarity and force [as delivered in the Hell's best kept secret sermon]. In all Comfort's books, tapes, and other resources, there is scarcely any mention of the doctrine of justification by faith, no thorough explanation of substitutionary atonement, and (in my view [that is Phil Johnson's view]) insufficient emphasis on the meaning of the cross. This is surely a glaring deficiency and a major imbalance in a ministry devoted to evangelism."Ray has described himself as an "itinerant" evangelist, and I personally feel that the narrow focus of his ministry (noted by Mr. Johnson) is by design rather than negligence - whether that is good or bad, I am not really sure, but I would gladly hear him if he came to town!Dan/\\/\\/\\

P
PreachParsly Jul 21, 2005

I love Ray Comfort but have never really thought about him as a theologian. Ray does what he does and I think he does it quite well, evangelism that is. Ray's emphasis seems to be getting the sinner soundly saved, not making him a Bible scholar. His public ministry has the emphasis on sound biblical evangelism. I heard Tozer say something to this effect," Just because a preacher preaches heavily on one subject doesn't mean he is unbalanced in his life. That is just what God is having him focus on." When a preacher focuses on one subject is doesn't mean that is all he knows, it’s just what God is giving him to preach.Ray is a street preacher and one-on-one guy. How many of you when you go to witness one-on-one bring you theological notes with you to make sure you expound with precision and exactitude the tenants of the Christian faith? No one.. When we witness we want the person to repent and receive remission of sins through faith in Jesus Christ.

K
KingJimmy Jul 21, 2005

...In all Comfort's books, tapes, and other resources, there is scarcely any mention of the doctrine of justification by faith, no thorough explanation of substitutionary atonement, and (in my view [that is Phil Johnson's view]) insufficient emphasis on the meaning of the cross. This is surely a glaring deficiency and a major imbalance in a ministry devoted to evangelism."Where is it taught in the Bible that our evangelism must consist in emphasizing the theology behind the work of Christ in theological language? I'm pretty familiar with Ray Comfort's method and belief, and would have to strongly disagree with this critique. Ray speaks heavily on the work of Christ, justification by faith, etc. He just doesn't use the common theological jargon to do it. Instead, he uses common language that everybody will understand, with plenty of ample illustrations. Most people in our churches don't even known what the word "propitiation" means. For anybody who has ever done any evangelism, you'll find out that some people don't even know what the word "repentance" means, and again, even in the church! I have been greatly blessed by Ray Comfort's ministry, and in a short phone conversation I once had with him, he encouraged me to preach at local universities. If I had to nit-pick what I've seen of his ministry, I'd say he (as well as most street evangelists) needs to put more emphasis on the resurrection of Christ. I am all for using the law in evangelism, but I fear sometimes he (as well as most street evangelist) tend to take a "I'll show them they are a sinner yet..." approach to evangelism instead of "I'll show them Christ crucified and resurrected." Also, to extremely nit-pick again, I'd say he perhaps uses too many props. Other than that, I love Ray Comfort's ministry and have been greatly blessed by it. I pray that one day I would have such a powerful ministry.

J
JaySaved Jul 21, 2005

Ray knows that most of the people he meets know little if not nothing about Christian theology. Words like propitiation and atonement are words that make me sing praises to the Lord, but to the lost sinner they are confusing.For example, walk up to a lost person and say, "Jesus loves you. Believe in Jesus and he will save you." Why should they? They don't know who Jesus is and they don't care that he loves them. Ray Comfort points out that (as the Bible says), "the Cross is foolishness to those who perish." Without conviction of sin there is no repentance, without repentance their is no salvation.Ray speaks on their level and gets them to realize what sin is. His approach is to get the person to realize the sin in their life and to realize that God is opposed to that sin. He tells them what they must do to be forgiven and he gives plenty of room for the Holy Spirit to work.Something that I have to remind myself, is that God must draw the sinner to him and God is the one who saves the person. My job (and yours) is to be obedient to the words the Holy Spirit lays on our hearts.Ray Comfort does not try to get people to "pray a prayer". His focus is to get the person to see the need to pray the prayer and pray their own prayer of repentance.God Bless

D
dann Jul 21, 2005

I agree, theology has very little street credit. I think Phil's remarks were directed more at the growing library his ministry is producing (at least I hope that is what he meant?) I think Mr. Johnson's remarks were not geared so much at Mr Comforts ministry - as it was geared at the various materials that Living Waters ministry produces.I can't speak for the man, but that was how I understood it.Dan/\\/\\/\\

L
letsgetbusy Jul 21, 2005

luckyd,I think you were referring to my post. Comfort is awesome, and I hope he lights an inferno in America. I wrote that (please don't start a debate about him) because I didn't want to start a rabbit's trail under that post (I just handed a Hell's Best Kept Secret CD to a guy about 2 hours ago). I was just trying to stay on subject, but give credit to Ray at the same time.Yes, many have a problem with Ray for many different reasons, but like Spurgeon said, everytime that he began to make true spiritual progress, he met with much opposition and resistance.

D
disciplejosh Jul 21, 2005

I have been personally callenged and blessed by ray's ministry over the years. I too strongly recommend "Out of the Comfort Zone" to any and all. "The Evidence Bible" is another.God kinda used Ray as a catalyst in my life spiritually speaking...really dealing with my self-righteousness and giving me a healthy and balanced view of the law of God, the reasons why He gave it ti fallen man, and how it helps us/ the sinner to see him/herself in the light of God's word and leaves the responsibility squarely upon our own shoulders as to what we will do with it. Greg and I were blessed to spend a short time with Him last year, I think. Here's a picture.I've been blessed, I have cried, I have definitely laughed, and I have been really angry, as God has dealt with me spiritually using the instrument of Ray's ministry. He is highly recommended.Just a bit of advice...If you begin to read/watch/listen to his 'materials', I would ask one thing...let God work them into you personally before you go out and teach sinners His way using the Law. Zeal without knowledge creates a tragic mess. You don't need to be a pro, just have the right heart (broken before God, humble, submissive, obedient, a servant's heart).

sermonindex Jul 22, 2005

The ministry of Ray Comfort and all of his materials are what started it for me. I am very grateful towards him and truly thank GOD for all that He has done through this little man from New Zealand. He's the man who inspired me to start street preaching and witnessing and also inspired me to start writting my own articles. He's deffinately a man I highly admire.

P
PreachParsly Jul 22, 2005

The ministry of Ray Comfort and all of his materials are what started it for me. I am very grateful towards him and truly thank GOD for all that He has done through this little man from New Zealand. He's the man who inspired me to start street preaching and witnessing and also inspired me to start writting my own articles. He's deffinately a man I highly admire. The exact same for me. He is the one God used to show me how important repentance is and about false converts. He has also inspired me to start a street ministry. We have just started it at our church, going out and doing one-on-one that is. I am not (yet!) open-air preaching but waiting for God to make the way and prepare me.Ray has affected many, many, many, many street ministers and street ministries.

sermonindex Jul 24, 2005

KingJimmy wrote:If I had to nit-pick what I've seen of his ministry, I'd say he (as well as most street evangelists) needs to put more emphasis on the resurrection of Christ. I am all for using the law in evangelism, but I fear sometimes he (as well as most street evangelist) tend to take a "I'll show them they are a sinner yet..." approach to evangelism instead of "I'll show them Christ crucified and resurrected." Also, to extremely nit-pick again, I'd say he perhaps uses too many props. I know i said i wasn't gonna comment any more, but this one i have to stand up and say something.This above (the quote) is something I needed to hear, about street preaching. THANKS VERY MUCH.I was just like ray, preaching the gospel numerous times and having to 'follow up' on them. Gruling task, i had no time to do such a thing.But, showing them the true gospel. The one i encountered. I needed no one to follow me up, but the Lord taught me.After Ray's teaching, I saw the urgancy for this needed to be spread, cause it was 'what i was looking for'.God bless you all.I love you guys....

This discussion is locked.

Archived
1 of 16 posts