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Is having Children in these evil days wise?

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John1028 Jun 11, 2021

Hello

Iam from Germany. Is it more wise in these Days to not have kids? Iam really concerned about the future of the children. The reason why iam concerned is that our Society is getting more and more godless. You even can not have homeschooling here in germany and in pulic school they teach the kids really evil things. Its getting worse and worse. Very quickly. Is it better to not have children in these evil days?Iam not married.. so i talk about new born future children.

Edit: When i write Evil times i mean: Lesbian, Gay, Transgender, Bisexuel Teaching in school, sexual teaching like maturation with 5 (it did not happen yet but thair are signs it will come), they even teach that you can choose your gender, gendering of the language, there is no god teaching etc.
Then we see that the world is changing and maybe persecution is really not far away. There are so many more things i could add but its enough i think.

Btw. No children means for me - not getting married because i dont wanna manipulate my or my wifes body to stay childless.

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TMK Jun 11, 2021

This is actually a much more complex topic than it seems at first blush.

Since the way is narrow that leads to destruction why would a Christian ever choose to have children? Can a parent be way more than 50 sure their children will become disciples of Jesus Christ?

Of course this question per your point is even more poignant today. It used to be that there was at least decent community backing regard going to church etc. Not anymore. Today society considers churchgoers as intolerant dangerous racists, misogynists and every other -ist.

Believe it or not when I was in public elementary school here in the US in the early 70s we had Bible classes a couple of times a week in school.

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narrowpath Jun 11, 2021

I think there is never a time where we should stop having children. It is a general command to procreate. Gen 1:38

Some people have the gift of singleness and are content with it. 1.Cor 7:25-28.

Du auch aus Deutschland?


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drifter Jun 11, 2021

I don't think we as children of God should let fear motivate any of our decisions. God is fully able to save and keep your children if you should have any.

Having said that, I think far, far too many christians rush into marriage for bad reasons, like personal gratification, peer pressure or a misguided sense of loneliness.

I personally am remaining celibate for the rest of my life. I chose this because I want to give my undivided attention to Jesus and spreading the gospel.

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TMK Jun 12, 2021

//I think there is never a time where we should stop having children. It is a general command to procreate. Gen 1:38//

To be fair, the command was to "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Genesis 1:28

I think the stated goal has been accomplished and more.

I certainly am not against folks having children; the question was whether it was wise given the times we live in.

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drifter Jun 12, 2021

"I think the stated goal has been accomplished and more."

Care to elaborate?

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TMK Jun 12, 2021

The world population is pushing 8 billion at 7,874,965,825.

I’m no tree hugger or rabid environmentalist but it seems clear we have progressed from subduing the Earth to abusing it.

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drifter Jun 12, 2021

The world is not overpopulated. I think the problem is poor governance, wastefulness and greed.

Cities, for example, cover approximately 3 percent of total land mass while 56.2 percent of the world's population live in cities. People look at these crowded cities and conclude there are too many people in the world.

As much as 30 percent of food is wasted globally on an annual basis. 8.9 percent of people live near starvation. What we needlessly waste is more than enough to feed a hungry populace.

We also have incredibly bad policies in place, like lockdowns, which plunged as many as 150 million people into poverty.

Or take global warming pseudoscience, which wants to eliminate the fossil fuel industry and plunge yet more people into poverty. We would literally not have the modern world without fossil fuels; billions of people have been lifted out of poverty because of this industry (which I firmly believe God let man discover in this age when world population has drastically increased.)

Even my industry, for example. I have worked in aquaculture on the West Coast of British Columbia for over 7 years now. This industry has much less of a carbon footprint than any land based farming. It has minimal environmental impact and feeds millions of people on an annual basis. But garbage, cherry-picked "science" is spoon fed to activists, propagated on the internet and even reaches politicians who enact laws to reduce and try to eliminate the industry.

Or the irrational fear over GMO foods. In some developing countries many people are malnourished and have preventable conditions like Vitamin A deficiency, which can be remedied with "Yellow Rice" (rice with added Vitamin A). But GMOs are the "boogie man" because of propaganda spread by people more concerned about "Mother Earth" than human beings.

These are just a few examples of many.

God commands us to procreate and fill the earth.

Globalists say there are "too many people".

Like the Georgia Guidestones which says "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

Billionaires like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Ted Turner and others are actively planning on how to "slow down population growth". (Who elected them? They have ABSOLUTELY NO SAY in how many children people should have.) Or communist dictators in countries like China, who tell people how many kids they can have (and murder children in the womb if people don't listen).

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TMK Jun 13, 2021

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-07-25/population-growth-world-overshoot-day/11320990

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deogloria Jun 13, 2021

Good question - no easy answers .
The times will get even more evil in the future.
If you want to have kids then you want them to follow the Lord.Then you need to count the costs for you and the kids, to be disciples.
The price might be high.
Whatever you do - do it for the Glory of God.

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drifter Jun 13, 2021

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/07/29/why-earth-overshoot-day-and-the-ecological-footprint-are-pseudoscientific-nonsense/?sh=52a6de837e76

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TMK Jun 13, 2021

Well that’s good news.

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JFW Jun 13, 2021

brother John,

Children are a blessing...
3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.


Wise... according to whom?
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

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Pray dear brother and if this desire for children is from the Lord then He will give you peace (assurance) of His will and if not He will withhold it and there will be speculation and confusion, lacking the spiritual light (His presence) necessary to proceed in faith down that path.

(For me) it is wise to, in everything, respond to the Lord in love, faith and thanksgiving... tho often we react to the world and it’s lies with fear and frustration.
Much like the grossly disproportionate misrepresentation of the homosexual community in media, (the actual number is exponentially lower than we are led to believe hovering between 2.7-3.0%) so too is the power of the subversive influence,... after all it isn’t the truth, it’s a web deception built on a foundation of lies. And we are those who walk in the light of truth not those who shrink back 🙏🏻

As for overpopulation... the "planet” can easily sustain far greater numbers of people but the ability of man to control them has a much lower limit - hence all the misinformation and disinformation in an attempt to deceive the masses into accepting their lies essentially submitting to their doctrine.
We sometimes do this (submitting) without even noticing.... but the fruit testifies of it’s root -

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ginnyrose Jun 23, 2021

Should you have children given the boldness of evil that runs unchecked? Let me share a testimony.

Back in the late 1960s Khrushchev, the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the USSR, declared they will take over the USA by 1972. In that time frame I was birthing children and I was scared spitless! I had read testimonies of parents in communists countries in how they raised their children so I took lessons - Teaching them the WORD, memorizing scripture. 1972 came and went and the USA was not taken over by the Communists,so I relaxed, to my shame.While we still taught the WORD the urgency was gone. By 1980 we had a total of five children.

Today, the evil is bolder, more aggressive, or, so it seems. Yet, Ecclesiastes 7:10: says, "Do not say, 'Why is it that the former days were better than these?' For it is not from wisdom that you ask about this."

Being practical, I suggest you may have to leave your country if you believe it poses a serious threat to your well-being. Many have done so in the past and still are doing it. Ask the LORD to direct you knowing He is more interested in you then you are - this is the key.

God's blessing on you.

Sandra


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Solomon101 Jun 24, 2021

Question was, "Is having Children in these evil days wise?"

Yes. Absolutley! Christian parents are called to raise up the Elijahs, Elishas, Esthers, Deborahs, Pauls, Timothys and Jehus of our day! It would be most unwise to allow the only people training up children to be the God haters.

As far as the spiritually digressing culture ... MANY revival fires are burning. Not getting a ton of press but crashing into the darkness and pushing it back none the less.

We dare not abandon the schools, cities, and cultures to the enemy. NO! Instead of cursing the darkness invade it with the light of Christ and the Gospel. The church has to quit bemoaning the situation and aggressively start impacting it with the delivering power of Christ. God help the church to grow a backbone like a crowbar set in concrete. We have been far to soft for far to long.

Should we be having children? A resounding YES!! Furthermore, we must train them to be world changers with a fearlessness for Christ! They are born for such a time as this!

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narrowpath Jun 24, 2021

Hundreds of years ago you had eight children of which four survived until adulthood. Live expectancy was perhaps around 40-50 years and wars, famines and place where commonplace. Few people have access to education and you were in some sort of bondage to local rulers. Now we live in unprecedented prosperity, have medical care, schooling, safety, and relative justice. I admit, we also live in times of unprecedented lawlessness.
The outward conditions for having children have never been better, yet we are having fewer and fewer children.
In former days we shared our poverty with big families and now we are reluctant to share our prosperity.
The richest nations in the world have a both rate that rivals the Vatican!


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crossvid Sep 28, 2021

Should you have children given the boldness of evil that runs unchecked? Let me share a testimony. https://get-vidmate.com https://instasave.onl/

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