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savannah Nov 20, 2021

Intro -

https://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=91321142571032

Part 1 -

https://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=92721148221559

Part 2 -

https://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=1018211352561466

Part 3 -

https://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=118211410501090

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savannah Nov 25, 2021


"How Feminism Destroyed American Women"
by Pastor Michael Foster


https://youtu.be/KAhTOvdphWM

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savannah Nov 27, 2021

"The Masculinity Crisis" -

- message begins @ the 7 minute mark

https://youtu.be/ERTFGj2YTBE

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savannah Nov 30, 2021


"Becoming a masculine man and embracing masculinity is not a sin against anyone or anything, no matter what the naysayers may try to preach. It is the role of being a man, something that shouldn’t be ridiculed and hated, but also something that shouldn’t be glorified or praised or even worshipped. It should only always be expected, only this and nothing else. It is expected of women to embrace their femininity, and so it should be expected of men to embrace their masculinity without contempt and made to feel ashamed for doing what is natural. Men, real masculine men are now but a few in today’s world due to the overwhelming demands society has placed upon them and what it thinks men should amount to. It has left the remaining billions of men soft, weak, and fragile. If society continues like this its the annihilation of masculinity, sooner rather than later, and we will all witness the destruction of civilization as we know it.” ~ RJD

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This should serve to remind us of how far gone the society has already fallen;

https://youtu.be/CVP_JQCr4wQ


And this song reminds us of how it was back in the day. Don't let the title fool y'all. 😉

https://youtu.be/1IgxoziI12c

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savannah Dec 2, 2021

Titus 2:5

And then he says, "workers at home." And here's the one that gets all the heat nowadays, because women don't want to work at home. Frankly, they're not at all interested in working at home if they can help it. Forty-five percent of the American workforce is women. Megatrends 2000 says in the past twenty years U.S. women have taken two-thirds of the millions of new jobs, and that will continue. By the way, that directly contributes to continued male unemployment in the inner city, according to a Harvard University report done by a man named Harris. Because people will hire a woman before they'll hire a male black, sometimes even a Hispanic black male - a Hispanic male rather - or a black male. And so what happens is two out of three new jobs are taken by women because they'd rather deal with women than men, and that contributes to a rise in unemployment of the men. Fifty-six percent, says Megatrends, fifty-six percent of mothers with children under six work outside the home. Seventy-three percent of mothers with children six to seventeen work outside the home. By the year 2000 - that's in six years or so, seven years - ninety percent of women between sixteen and sixty-five will be at work outside the home. Nobody will be home, nobody.

Women don't want to be workers at home. Why? Because Satan sells the system on that. Why? Because it's anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-Bible, and it devastates the testimony of the church. The word "workers at home" - one word in the Greek, oikourgos - from two root words, ergon, which means "work,” and oikos, which means "house.” It's simply the sphere of a woman's life is her home, that's her domain. It doesn't mean she has to be there 24 hours a day and can never leave. What - I'm not saying that because you don't want to lock her up with soap operas either, but what it does mean is that is the sphere of her life. That is her domain. It is not that she is simply to be home, but that the home is her sphere. The woman in Proverbs 31 left home when she needed to to buy a field. She left home to prepare that field. She left home and went afar to find things that would help the family. The woman did what she needed to do, but the focus of everything was the home. And that's where she poured her life, and she got up early and she went to bed late for the sake of the home. She is to be a home keeper. That's the sphere of her responsibility. That's her place of employment. That's where she should pour her life. For a mother to get a job outside the home and send the children to some kind of daycare place is to shirk her God-given responsibility. It also is failure to understand that her husband is to be the provider, as Ephesians 5 makes very clear. Even if you wanted to work outside the home to pay for your children to go to a Christian school, you made a big mistake. Better that you should stay in the home and raise your own children to be godly than to pass it on to somebody else.

Now we know today that there are a lot of wonderful things that we have in the home that ancient people didn't have. I mean, you're not in there with some kind of a stone pot beating out the grain to make flour. And you're not down at the creeks slapping your clothes on a rock. We know that. And you're not spinning thread so that you can sew fabric - make fabric so you can sew garments - so we know you have more time. You need to be very careful how you use that time discreetly. You do have more time, and there may be things outside the home you can do that will assist the home, that will assist others, that may even be enterprising, like the Proverbs 31 woman and bring in a little bit of income. But any of those kind of things that you do, the home remains the constant and ongoing priority. Everything focuses on that.

When your children are grown and gone, or if God doesn't give you any children, you have a certain freedom. But even then in what you choose to do outside the home, you don't lose the responsibility for the home. You may be able to care for your home, and because you have no children still do some things outside. Your home may still be a haven for your husband. It may be a place where you can show hospitality. You may have opportunity to wash the saints' feet and do every good work and still do something outside the home, something noble. I always think it's wonderful when women work in Christian ministry when they don't have children at home, or when they teach little ones in school, or when they're involved in a Christian mission enterprise, or when they're involved in ministering to people in jail, or when they work in a hospital or with doctors and those who help people.

But you need to be careful even in doing that that you don't get yourself in a position where you are tempted. Because we all know, and the statistics are very clear on this, women who work outside the home have an exponential number of marital, extra-marital affairs when compared with women who are in the home, because of exposure, temptation. Plus, they find themselves not being subject to their own husbands, but subject to somebody else's husbands. You must make wise choices if you're going to take the freedom that you have in terms of time because your children are grown, because you can care for that home because of conveniences and choose where it is you're going to use your gifts and talents and abilities. And women have them to teach and lead and administrate and coordinate and serve and help and give and all of that, just like all of the gifts that are mentioned in the New Testament. You must choose wisely so you don't compromise yourself in any way. But your place is the home.

It's also tragic to realize that many women want nothing more than that. And they have an unfaithful husband who leaves them, they're stuck, aren't they, with children, no source of income, and forced in many cases to work outside the home to support the family. That's not right. First Timothy 5 makes it very clear: number one, other men in the extended family should care for that woman so she doesn't have to do that. They've already lost a father; now you're going to make them lose a mother, those little ones. If there's no other men in it, then it says in 1 Timothy 5 some other women ought to come to her aid, and if there are no women to do that, then the church ought to take care of her. But churches aren't even willing to do that. We've been involved in doing that for years at Grace Church where we have widows, or where we have single women whose husbands have been divorced, or in some cases where we have women with little children whose husbands are serving long prison sentences, even life imprisonment. They lost a father; should they lose a mother?

The family, if you have some woman like that in your family, you need to support that woman. And if there's no one there, the church can come alongside, and we do much counseling in that area. But "a woman's place is in the home” only says half of it. "A woman's place is in the home,” to me, doesn't sound right. A woman's responsibility is in the home. To say her place is in the home makes you think she just ought to sit there because that's where she belongs. No, that's where her duty and responsibility is. That's where her opportunity is to have the greatest impact on the world. A woman doesn't impact the world by getting a briefcase and going downtown. She impacts the world by raising a godly generation of men and women.

Obviously this is, this is very simple, direct teaching, and we know how to respond to it. At the same time, there are questions, and I know they can come up in your heart. You say, "Well, you know, what if I have an opportunity to be gone two hours in the morning or three hours, or what if I can go to the Christian school and help there for a few hours?" The answer to all of that is, if it does not impact your home, if it enhances and enriches the life in the home, if it accomplishes all the spiritual goals, then that's between you and the Lord and your husband and your family to work those things out. You understand the plan and the pattern that God has laid out. The specifics of how it fleshes out in your home are for you and the Lord and your family to work out. But what grieves me is this massive onslaught that says we've got to stamp out this whole idea of women staying at home.

And if you don't think that's it, listen to the agenda. Vivian Gornek, feminist author, University of Illinois, "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession. That's the whole thrust. The choice to serve and be protected and planned toward being a family maker is a choice that shouldn't be.” And then she says, "The heart of radical feminism is to change that."

Why do they care? You tell me. Why does some feminist woman care whether you're a homemaker? Why does she care? I'll tell you why, because her agenda isn't her agenda. It's the agenda of the enemy. It is an anti-God agenda intended to destroy the credibility of the church, because if you can get women who claim to be Christians to abandon the home, then you can pick up a Bible and stick it in their face and say, "You say you believe this? I don't think so. Therefore it must not be believable because you know what it says and you're not interested in believing it, and you claim to be a Christian." The agenda is - they don't care. They don't know what they're doing, but they don't care really whether you work. Satan cares to discredit the Bible; that's the issue. That's the level of the attack. See it for what it is and don't become victimized.

The home is where a woman provides the expressions of love for her husband and her children. The home is where she leads and guides and teaches and raises the godly generation. The home is where she is protected and secured from other men and potentially wicked relationships and abuses. The home is where she lodges strangers, washes saints' feet, shows hospitality, and devotes herself to every good work. That's her sphere. And whatever of that home and whatever of the goodness of her life she can take outside and not sacrifice the home is between her and the Lord, and her husband.

Proverbs 7:11 gives a definition of a prostitute. This is what it says, "She is boisterous and rebellious, her feet do not remain at home." She's not content to be at home. She's not content with that domain with that man. She wants to explore other options.

People today say, "Oh, a woman must work. She has to work to fulfill herself." That is ridiculous. That is not true. Her place that God has designed her to express herself most magnanimously is in the home for her family and friends and those in need.

In spite of all the clear teaching, Satan has allowed the church to get sucked into the lesbian-feminist agenda. This is of great consequence to the church for a couple of statistical reasons. Sixty percent of the church population is women. And in Bible-believing churches, only thirty-seven percent are men. And so this great, massive force of people who name the name of Christ are either living in affirmation of Scripture or in denial of it. Very important in terms of Christian testimony.

John MacArthur
March 14, 1993

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savannah Dec 5, 2021

Now this morning we come to the instruction given to the younger women. Let's look at verses 3, 4 and 5. "Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior and not malicious gossips, not enslaved to too much wine, teaching what is good, that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be dishonored."

One of the responsibilities of the older women, which we noted when we discussed that, is that they are to teach the younger women. And here it is very specific what they are to teach, as indicated in verses 4 and 5. God has designed very clearly His own order for the conduct of young women, just as He has for young men and older folks as well. If there is anything in our culture that is being attacked more viciously than any other, it is this matter of the role of young women. In fact, if I were to title this message alone I might title it, "The feminist attack on the divine order for women." We're going through that right now. No matter what I would say about verses 4 and 5, it would be controversial; if I just read it, it would be controversial.

One of the most devastating and debilitating and destructive movements in our day is the Feminist Movement. It is changing not only the world, but sadly it is changing the church. And as a result, the Word of God is being dishonored, opponents are having plenty bad to say about us, and God, our Savior, is being dishonored and shamed. Radical feminism has brainwashed our culture. It has brainwashed our culture to the degree that even the church has fallen victim to this. Church leaders, theologians, professors of theology who are supposed to be profound in the Scripture, as well as lay people in the church, have bought the feminist lies. There is even an organization in America called CBE having to do with Christians for equality. And this is an evangelical group advocating a feminist agenda.

Marriage and the family, the primary building blocks of social and moral order, are in shambles in our country, and the future is even worse than the present. Unthinking Christians, unthinking believers - not just in liberal churches but in evangelical churches - unthinking, untaught Christians are falling prey to this agenda. And the sad thing is that most of us have no idea where it's coming from. Most of us think that this is just a lot of women who really just want some liberation and some freedom, and they're tired of cleaning floors and washing dishes, and they want equal pay, and they want equal jobs, and they want to get out from under the mundane duties and express themselves in more grandiose ways then they think they can in the home. That may be a contemporary component; that isn't even remotely related to the reason for this. The real feminist agenda is frightening. The real feminist agenda is satanic. And you need to understand that. So I'm going to do something this morning that is a bit unusual. Rather than diving right into the text this morning, I want to give you some understanding of where this movement today has come from so that you will see that text in its proper light.

What the public sees is women who want to be free. In fact, there's even a book published by a Christian publisher, written by a Christian woman, called Woman, Be Free. And we think that this is a movement about freedom for women, freedom from strictures that bind them to their husbands and their children and their duties in the home. We see it as a cry for equality in a society that is preoccupied with life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness - a cry for opportunity and privilege to use their abilities and their skills, unhindered and unrestricted. And sometimes the rhetoric does sound reasonable. But the real agenda is not reasonable; it is frightening.

Let me help you to understand some of the philosophy that is behind this movement by giving you some quotes from the recognized leaders of the Feminist Movement. Gloria Steinem, editor of Ms Magazine, says, quote: "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God." Radical feminist leader Sheila Cronin, who is oft quoted by the way, says this, quote: "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the Women's Movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage," end quote.
The Declaration of Feminism goes back to November of 1971 when they laid out their agenda, and this is what it says, quote: "The end of the institution of marriage is necessary for the liberation of women. Therefore, it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not live individually with men. All of history must be rewritten in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft," end quote. Mark that, "we must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft.”

Annie Laurie Gayler, writing an article called "Feminist Salvation," in the Humanist in 1988, says, quote: "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women. Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist's salvation of the world,".

Dr. Mary Jo Bain, feminist, assistant professor of education at Wellesly College, and the associate director of the School Center for Research on Women, writes, quote: "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them," end quote.
And that well-known name Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, writing an article called "Women in the New Race," says this, quote: "The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it,".

We cannot think lightly about this agenda; we have to think deeply about it. The fact that you may feel in your heart some need to be free because you've become victimized by the current agenda doesn't mean you really understand the agenda. You don't know that behind this entire Feminist Movement is some very satanic religious philosophy, and it runs very deep in the people who are influencing our culture. They are obliterating our culture. They are being taught through every avenue to our youth, and even Christians are falling under the spell of the feminists.
Sheila Cronin, again, writing in the National Organization of[for]Women Times, in January 1988, said, "The simple fact is every woman must be willing to be recognized as a lesbian to be fully feminine,"

Now some people might think that this is some kind of a twentieth-century phenomenon; this is some kind of a new thing connected to American democracy and egalitarianism - it is not. It is old; it is very, very old. So in our time, in our century, it is an expression of the anti-male, homosexual women who generated it. It is not a human creation at all; it is satanic, absolutely and utterly satanic. And I want to take you back to some of its origins so that you can understand it.

Feminism with all of its assorted features and its unique companionship with homosexuality is an old, old heresy that is meant to destroy God's design. It really started in the Garden when Eve, the original feminist, stepped out from under Adam's authority and thought she would act independently and led the whole race into sin. And thus the first act in Satan's feminist agenda was successful.

...The early Gnostic, well-known to church history students, named Marcion was excommunicated from the church in A. D. 150. He then established his own church in which he appointed women as bishops and priests. In the Valentinian Gnosticism, women functioned as teachers, evangelists, healers, priests, perhaps as bishops. This movement in the church to put women into roles of spiritual leadership is simply reflective of this same kind of religious attitude.

Gnosticism rejects the Creator God of Scripture as blind and envious and malicious, not hesitating to commit the most heinous blasphemy of all. The Gnostics even called the God of the Bible the true devil. For the true Gnostic, the real God, whoever this force was, was unknowable, impersonal, untouchable, some kind of unified sum of separated parts, a sort of pantheistic force. But they said this, "The divine being, because he is all in all impersonal, untouchable, just this big force, is best expressed by androgyny, that is the erasure of male and female distinctions." The ideal for the Gnostic was to become sexless, a radical refusal of sexual differentiation and a complete confusion of sexual identity in God's intended role.

See, this is how Satan has always tried to tear up God's moral order in the world. And attacking the family, of course, does the greatest damage. The diabolical reversal of everything is Satan's approach. Destroy God's created order, destroy the integrity of Scripture, destroy the character of God, destroy the name of Christ. And, beloved, I'm telling you this is what is behind today's Feminist Movement. This is not some whimsical deal that popped up in the twentieth century by a few women who wanted to take off the apron and buy a briefcase. This is not that. This is not something that was invented by women who wanted to abort their babies and get into the corporate halls and the executive washrooms. This New Age thinking, that's what it's called today, is nothing but Gnosticism. New Age is a new way of talking about age-old Gnosticism. And the heart of it is that female power is the key to salvation. The goddess cult is back.

John MacArthur
March 7,1993

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savannah Dec 6, 2021

Listen at the following link;

https://www.sermonaudio.com/saplayer/playpopup.asp?SID=316141757323

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Lysa Dec 6, 2021


Savannah, are you married?

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savannah Dec 7, 2021


Sorry, but I'm not interested!

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Lysa Dec 7, 2021


Praise God you're not!! Hallelujah!!

What I am interested in knowing is if you have a wife posting all this masculinity Christianity stuff? :) :)

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savannah Dec 7, 2021


Is Brenda your mother?

If Sandra were your mother, you'd have no problem with "this masculinity Christianity stuff" as you call it.

Better yet, if Sarah were your mother you'd be on board with this thread, rather than being a feminist.

And one last thing. I can tell that you have no husband, so I need not ask you what you asked me.

Thanks be to God for men who are being what God created them to be, and for women who are being what God created them to be.

I can tell you this, all the men in this thread are married men. As all probably know, John MacArthur is certainly married.


"If there is anything in our culture that is being attacked more viciously than any other, it is this matter of the role of young women. In fact, if I were to title this message alone I might title it, "The feminist attack on the divine order for women.""

The proof is in the pudding, right here in this thread.

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Lysa Dec 7, 2021


Savannah,

Now you are just trying to be mean. :) :) All you had to do was ignore me or answer yes or no.

No, wait, you were trying to show me how masculine you are, right?!?!

You win!! :)

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savannah Dec 8, 2021


I am not trying to be mean. I am not trying to win.

I am not a woman, so I do not play that game of ignoring.

And I certainly do not have to try to show you how masculine I am. I am or I am not.

You wear your emotions on your sleeve, and bring them to the table of this thread. Each and every one of your posts on this thread are mere emotional reactions.

I doubt you listened to any of the messages or read the words of John MacArthur I posted. You reacted emotionally, rather than hearing His Spirit and His Word.

If you take issue with anything that was presented insofar as the subject of the thread is concerned, and the truth from the Word of God applied to it, and care to refute whatever errors you imagine that these men have presented, you may attempt to do so.

But I don't believe that you have any interest in learning this truth. The culture of 21st century America and American Christianity have joined hands, and many are cruising on that ship and enjoying the ride.

Feminism is the root cause of much of it. It began with Eve in the garden, and she has many daughters. Sarah's daughters are known by their femininity, and for pursuing the very clear purpose and role for which they have been created.

Re: Feminism -

It is certainly as satanic as it gets, just as MacArthur clearly and emphatically stated.

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deogloria Dec 8, 2021

Sad that this topic keeps coming up and now it even gets personal which is probably against the community guidelines.

Christianity has gone in many wrong directions.
And just a reminder: "sin came into the world through one man..." Romans 5:12

"but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." v11

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savannah Dec 8, 2021

"Sad that this topic keeps coming up..."

That's the very attitude that has gotten us where we are.

Here we have yet another comment by someone who has no interest in the topic, and probably hasn't listened to or read what's been posted, and then mentions it getting personal and being against community guidelines. Just a sly way to skirt the topic.

Shall we approach every topic that comes up in this manner? Surely not, and surely we do not.

I've not seen any addressing of the topic at hand. Just attempts to deflect attention from it.

Yes, Christianity has gone in many wrong directions. Two of the causes of that is neglect and apathy. Two of the tactics and schemes of the devil which have been quite successful over the years. This is a perfect example.

To think this topic to be a small issue is akin to saying that the fruit that Eve took and ate was a small piece of fruit. Just one look, that's all it took as they say today. But just one bite was all it took in the garden.

If this is such a small problem, then it should go away. But those who think so, are being fooled. It has grown into a monster, and that monster has given birth to more monsters. Which have grown even bigger and more deadly.

Knowing God's purpose for creating men and women ought not be diminished in the least way.

Q. What is the chief end of man?
Q. How do we glorify God?

Christians used to know the answers to those questions. Upon the answers to these two questions the whole of the christian life rests.


"...the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home , good, obedient to their own husbands, THAT THE WORD OF GOD MAY NOT BE BLASPHEMED." Titus 2:4,5

"Why do you call me Lord, Lord and do not do the things which I say? - Jesus (Luke 6:46)

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TMK Dec 8, 2021

I admittedly did not listen to each of the sermons you have posted but I have read prior articles you have posted.

I am curious if any of them address the solution to this growing monster? I think it would entail every married woman quitting their jobs and likely the family moving into lodgings they can afford on one salary.

Of course tithes would decrease dramatically.

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savannah Dec 8, 2021

The solution is in the answers to the two questions I posted from the catechism.

As is the case many times, most of us ask the wrong questions seeking solutions to problems man has brought upon himself. Then we come up with answers from the wisdom which is from below.

I am not concerned about women quitting their jobs, or moving into affordable housing, or even tithes decreasing (tithes are obsolete, and men living off others is also obsolete...for another thread).

It's all a matter of glorifying God and loving Him and obeying Him.

What I am concerned about, and every christian ought to be concerned about this, is that the WORD OF GOD NOT BE BLASPHEMED (Titus 2:5).

The only question which ought to be asked is, "What would you have me to do LORD", and then trust Him to work out the details as you obey His Word.

But I'm convinced that the majority love it as it is,just as in Jeremiah 5:28-31.

If just those two things that you mentioned Todd were to happen in obedience to the Word of God , I do believe we'd see that revival all are so desirous of.

But it WON'T HAPPEN!

Judgement looms as is evident. And it's imminent. I'd like to think differently, but it's as clear as a summer day with the sun shining.

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MrBillPro Dec 9, 2021

We must be "endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit,” before we will ever get to the unity of the faith (all believing the real truths of scripture). Trying to correct everyone’s doctrines without fellowshipping in unity with ALL other believers is like putting the cart before the horse. God has His assigned offices set aside for the specific purpose of "the perfecting of the saints” and "edifying the body,” "till we all come in the unity of the faith.” But few are willing to listen to those elders He’s put in place. Unless we humble ourselves and follow peace and unity in the Spirit, most of the church will never get to a point where they embrace God’s appointed ministers who are anointed to bring forth the unity of the faith. (Ephesians 5)

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savannah Dec 10, 2021


https://www.sermonaudio.com/saplayer/playpopup.asp?SID=112413205908

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MrBillPro Dec 10, 2021

I listened to all that message, Wow! no compromising there, I didn't read all the scriptures he went over, to see how the spirit ministers to me personally on all of them, but many were pretty simple to understand. I don't want to personally get into a debate with anyone on this thread, but I will leave you with this. I was taught, that true biblical Christianity requires a denial of every worldly value and behavior, and Christians must be willing to make a commitment to the Word of God, with a full understanding of the implications of doing so.

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