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ccchhhrrriiisss Mar 25, 2022

Tablet with God’s Name, Biblical Curse, Discovered on ‘Curse Mount’ Ebal in Samaria
by David Israel
THE JEWISH PRESS
25 March 2022

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/tablet-with-gods-name-biblical-curse-discovered-on-curse-mount-ebal-in-samaria/2022/03/25/

A small, folded 3,200-year-old lead tablet that was unveiled on Thursday may shed new light on Biblical study as we know it. The tablet, which was discovered on Mount Ebal in Samaria, known as the biblical "Curse Mountain,” includes the explicit name of God and the text of a curse, both in the ancient Hebrew script.

Mount Ebal is one of the two mountains near the city of Shechem in Samaria and forms the northern side of the valley in which the city is situated. Shechem’s southern side is bordered by Mount Gerizim. The event at Mount Gerizim and Mount Ebal or the event of blessing and cursing occurred near the entry of the people of Israel into the Land of Israel at the beginning of the settlement period, after the forty years of wandering in the desert. The commandment to hold the event appears in the book of Deuteronomy and the report on how it was carried out appears in the book of Joshua.

The event included the construction of an altar on Mount Ebal and the offering of Olah and Shlamim sacrifices on it; writing parts of the Torah on stones: the blessing of the Levites on the keepers of the commandments of God and their curse on the transgressors; and at the end of the event, Joshua bin Nun recited to the people the blessings and curses written in the parsha of Ki Tavo.

The small lead tablet that was discovered on Mount Ebal was dated to the 13th century BCE, bears this curse (transliterated, Arur means cursed, and Ye’ho is part of the explicit name of God):

Arur Arur Arur
Arur la’El Ye’ho
Tamut ”“ Arur
Arur ”“ Mot Tamut
Arur l’Ye’ho
Arur Arur Arur

Prof. Gershon Galil from the University of Haifa calls the discovery an "earthquake in Biblical studies,” since "the new find unearthed today is the earliest Hebrew inscription found so far.” Before the latest discovery, the oldest inscription in Hebrew was dated to the tenth century BCE. "It was an inscription found at the Kiafa ruin, near the Ella Valley, by Prof. Yossi Garfinkel from the Hebrew University, which I deciphered,” he says.

But wait, there’s more: "The new finding is a death blow to all biblical deniers,” Prof. Galil stresses. "Many Bible critics have claimed that in the 13th century BCE (the traditional Jewish timeline places the exodus at 1248 BCE ”“ DI), the people of Israel did not read and write, and therefore could not have written the Bible. This is why Bible critics have claimed the Bible was written very late, in the Persian or Hellenistic period (fourth and thirds centuries BCE ”“ DI).

According to Prof. Galil, the tablet’s text represents great proficiency: "Anyone who knows how to write a text with a chiastic pattern can write anything,” he says.

A chiastic pattern or structure is a literary technique in narrative motifs and other textual passages, with at least two ideas that are intertwined.

"At this point, unfortunately, it is not yet possible to reveal all the information that has been unveiled, as it is awaiting peer review and academic publication,” Prof. Galil says. But we should say She’hechyanu over finding the explicit name of God in Hebrew.”

The correlation between the 3,200-year-old lead tablet and the event described in Deuteronomy 27 is obvious:

Thereupon Moses charged the people, saying: After you have crossed the Jordan, the following shall stand on Mount Gerizim when the blessing for the people is spoken: Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Joseph, and Benjamin. And for the curse, the following shall stand on Mount Ebal: Reuben, Gad, Asher, Zebulun, Dan, and Naphtali. The Levites shall then proclaim in a loud voice to all the people of Israel: Cursed be any party who makes a sculptured or molten image, abhorred by Hashem, a craftsman’s handiwork, and sets it up in secret. ”” And all the people shall respond, Amen.

The text proceeds with a list of "cursed be,” or "Arur,” as in our lead tablet. Which Prof. Galil believes makes the fact that it was discovered on the very mountain where the ceremony of reading the curses took place yet another proof of its authenticity.

"These are not curses per se,” Prof. Galil stresses. Rather, "the meaning of the expression ‘cursed’ is ‘would be cursed.’ It is a legal text that warns that whoever does not keep the commandment would be cursed. In the relationship between Israel and God, there is an informal relationship in which God declares that He loves the people, and there is also a formal and legal component. In other nations as well, in every contract, there are blessings as well as curses that would apply to whoever breaks the agreement.”

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/tablet-with-gods-name-biblical-curse-discovered-on-curse-mount-ebal-in-samaria/2022/03/25/

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Platy Mar 25, 2022

I saw this yesterday here:

https://www.worthynews.com/67549-archaeologist-claims-to-find-oldest-hebrew-text-in-israel-including-the-name-of-god

Is the age of the tablet around the same date as Deuteronomy 27? Is that what they are implying?

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TMK Mar 25, 2022

How was the tablet dated? I hope not some carbon-14 or other radiometric manner that many Christians deny the accuracy of when dating ancient sites like Gobekli Tepe, etc.

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Platy Mar 25, 2022

I'm assuming you don't believe in a young earth?

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ccchhhrrriiisss Mar 25, 2022

Hi TMK,

How was the tablet dated?

According to another article in The Times of Israel:

"If the Late Bronze Age (circa 1200 BCE) date is verified, this tiny, 2-centimeter x 2 centimeter folded-lead "curse tablet” may be one of the greatest archaeological discoveries ever. It would be the first attested use of the name of God in the Land of Israel and would set the clock back on proven Israelite literacy by several centuries ”” showing that the Israelites were literate when they entered the Holy Land, and therefore could have written the Bible as some of the events it documents took place.

"This is a text you find only every 1,000 years,” Haifa University Prof. Gershon Galil told The Times of Israel on Thursday. Galil helped decipher the hidden internal text of the folded lead tablet based on high-tech scans carried out in Prague at the Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic.

BASED ON EPIGRAPHICAL ANALYSIS OF THE SCANS and LEAD ANALYSIS of the artifact, Stripling and his team date the curse tablet (or defixio) to the late Bronze Age, before or around 1200 BCE. If this dating is verified, it would make the text centuries older than the previous recordholder for oldest Hebrew text in Israel and 500 years older than the previously attested use of the tetragrammaton YHWH, according to Galil. Writing in a similar alphabet was discovered in the Sinai Peninsula dating to the beginning of the 16th century BCE."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/archaeologist-claims-to-find-oldest-hebrew-text-in-israel-including-the-name-of-god/

In other words, they used epigraphical analysis and lead analysis. An epigraphical analysis is based upon the inscriptions. It is similar to how archeologists can date (or use a range of dates) when analyzing Egyptian hieroglyphs.

As the Times of Israel article states, the earliest known Hebrew inscriptions go back to about the 10th century B.C. (roughly 3,000 years ago). This would date to centuries prior to that. And, as it points out, this is 500 years earlier than the earliest known inscription of the divine tetragrammaton -- the "YHWH" Name.

However, the findings haven't been published yet to ascertain just how this was deduced. It was part of an archeological dig on Mount Ebal; so, it could be based upon the epigraphical analysis coupled with dating based upon the dig layer.

We know the importance of Mount Ebal due to the instructions by Moses to build altars on Mount Gerizim and Mount Ebal. For the blessing, Mount Gerizim was to be attended by six tribes (Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Joseph, and Benjamin); and, for the curses, Mount Ebal was to be attended by the other six tribes (Reuben, Gad, Asher, Zebulun, Dan, and Naphtali). This is found in Deuteronomy chapter 27.

Mount Gerizim was the choice of blessing. Interestingly, Mount Gerizim later came to be the mountain held as sacred by the Samaritans. This was the "mountain" referred to by the Samaritan woman who met Jesus by Jacob's well in John 4:20-26. This area was part of the Northern Kingdom of Israel which quickly fell into idolatry during the era of the divided kingdoms.

Mount Ebal, on the other hand, was the choice of cursing. This was the other option that the people of Israel could choose (i.e., "choose you this day whom you will serve"). It is explained well in Deuteronomy 11:26-32:


26 "See, I am placing before you today a blessing and a curse:
27 the blessing, if you listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, which I am commanding you today;
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, by following other gods which you have not known.

29 "And it shall come about, when the Lord your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, that you shall place the blessing on Mount Gerizim and the curse on Mount Ebal.
30 Are they not across the Jordan, west of the road toward the sunset, in the land of the Canaanites who live in the Arabah, opposite Gilgal, beside the oaks of Moreh?
31 For you are about to cross the Jordan to go in to take possession of the land which the Lord your God is giving you, and you shall possess it and live in it,
32 and you shall be careful to do all the statutes and the judgments which I am placing before you today.

It is also part of the idea of "life and death" that accompanies this. In Deuteronomy 30:19-20:

19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have placed before you LIFE and DEATH, the BLESSING and the CURSE. So CHOOSE LIFE IN ORDER THAT YOU MAY LIVE, you and your descendants,
20 by loving the Lord your God, by obeying His voice, and by holding close to Him; for this is your life and the length of your days, so that you may live in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them.”

Personally, I think that this has the potential to be a tremendously important archeological find. Of course, I will wait to read the paper once it's published in a peer-reviewed journal.

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TMK Mar 26, 2022

It is all very interesting. But when Christians rely on radiometric dating methods to support biblical archaeology they should not say it stinks when dating objects that do not fit into a biblical narrative, or a young earth narrative.

Not saying that is what is happening here- particularly if they are relying on other methods.

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Platy Mar 26, 2022

Which narrative do you believe? Do you believe in evolution?

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TMK Mar 26, 2022

Nope. But I do believe (know) the earth is way yonder older than 6000 years.

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Platy Mar 26, 2022

Had to rule out evolution.

Mark 10:6 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Man is as old as the earth (minus five literal 24 hour days).

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TMK Mar 26, 2022

Ok Platy if you say so!

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Platy Mar 26, 2022

What else can I say? I can't do anything else with the text.

Jesus giving his interpretation of the time period in relation to man and creation:

Mark 10:6 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Man was there from the beginning of the creation as per above verse and then we subtract five literal 24 hour days as per Genesis 1.

Genesis 1 states that each day had an evening and a morning which then makes each day a 24 hour day.

Genesis 1:5 - And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:8 - And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:13 - And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Genesis 1:19 - And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Genesis 1:23 - And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

So whatever the age of the earth is subtract five literal 24 hour days and you have the age of man according to scripture.

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TMK Mar 27, 2022

I have no issue with Adam and Eve being relatively recent. The issue is the age of the earth/universe.

Literal "creationists” are actually only selective literalists (or, perhaps "inconsistent literalists”). If one was truly consistent in interpreting the creation description in Genesis 1 at face value (along with other creation descriptions in both testaments), you’d come out with a round, flat earth, complete with solid dome over the earth, and earth supported by pillars, with Sheol underneath, etc. But creationists who claim the literal mantle won’t do that, since the results are clearly non-scientific. We should simply let the text say what it says, and let it be what it is. It was God’s choice to prompt people living 1000s of years ago to produce this thing we call the Bible, and so we dishonor it when we impose our own interpretive context on it. Our modern evangelical contexts are alien to the Bible. Any context other than the context in which the biblical writers were moved to write is foreign to the Bible.

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staff Mar 27, 2022

Hi all
For the Jesus to be true in my opinion the Earth as we know it ie with plants and animals has to be young.
Important Point No 1
Why?
Romans says that by one man sin entered the world and death by sin.
Who is the one man?Adam
We can number the days of Adam as the bible has numbered his days.
Adam was created on the SIXTH day of Creation.
"So all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died"
The bible clearly says "All" from the very beginning of life to the very end.
So from the beginning of Sixth day to the end of Adams life is 930 years,no if or no buts its 930 years.
Now that means that the SIXTH day can either be a literal 24 hr day or it can be a full year.If the SIXTH day is a literal 24hr day or a full year then so are days 1 to 5 and day 7
IMPORTANT POINT No 2
Evolution teaches that their has to be a continouse life-death-life-death-life-death cycle for evolution to happen over millions of years.If that cycle of life death life death was in existance before Adam then their is no need of Jesus to undo the curse of death as it was in existance before Adam.
We can be assured that the Earth as we know it with plants and animals and living things is "young" because we know the age of Adam from the 6th day of creation until his death.God has defined a day as either a literal 24hr day or a literal full calendar year.We can be assured that Sin and Death entered the world by Adam as the bible says as much.
IMPORTANT POINT NO 3
No Human or Missing Link Human or any life could have died before Adam and Eve as the bible says their was no death before Adam

We cant have our cake and eat it if death didnt enter the world through Adam but was evolutionary then their is no need for Jesus,
urs staff

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Platy Mar 27, 2022

This is why I used the interpretation of Jesus on the time relation of man and creation:

Mark 10:6 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

That is not my interpretation. Jesus stated that man was created in the beginning of creation. That would be a problem for you if you believe the earth is old and man is recent.

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TMK Mar 27, 2022

If your interpretation of that verse is correct, then either scripture is not inerrant or Jesus is fallible. Which do you choose?

In context, Jesus is talking about the beginning of creation of humans. You think that occurred 6 days after the creation of the universe, I think it occurred later. But from the day they were created they were male and female.

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BranchinVINE Mar 27, 2022


Hi Staff,

We can number the days of Adam as the bible has numbered his days.
Adam was created on the SIXTH day of Creation.
"So all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died"
The bible clearly says "All" from the very beginning of life to the very end.
So from the beginning of Sixth day to the end of Adams life is 930 years,no if or no buts its 930 years.
Now that means that the SIXTH day can either be a literal 24 hr day or it can be a full year.If the SIXTH day is a literal 24hr day or a full year then so are days 1 to 5 and day 7

Some thoughts:

(1)
24-hour days and 365-day years are regulated by the physical sun.

(2)
The first 3 days preceded the physical sun’s creation on the 4th day. Therefore, the first 3 days cannot be 24-hour physical days or physical years.

(3)
We know today that plants cannot exist without the physical sun. Yet plants were created on the 3rd day, before the sun was created on the 4th day. There is surely more to the creation account than meets the eye.

(4)
There is no mention of an evening and a morning regarding the 7th day. Therefore, the 7th day cannot be a 24-hour physical day. I would say that the 7th day is an eternal day.

(5)
After Adam was created on the 6th day, he entered into the eternal 7th day. Therefore, there was a period after Adam’s creation in which he lived outside physical time because that which is eternal is outside time.

(6)
When Adam sinned, he lost his place in the eternal 7th day of God’s rest and only believers in Christ can re-enter this day of eternal rest (Heb. 4:3-7).

(7)
The countdown to Adam’s death started from the day he sinned because it was only after he ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil that he would surely die. I would say that the 930 years that Adam lived were the years after his eternal rest in the 7th day ended and his mortal physical life began. These were the countable years of his mortal life.


Your thoughts?


Blessings

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staff Mar 27, 2022

Hi BranchinVINE,

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So "ALL" of his days are 930 yrs.It doesnt distinguish between heavenly days or Earthly days they according to this scripture are the same.All in the bible always means All.

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If as you suppose the 7th day is "eternal" and thats why it doesnt mention evening or morning then any days like day 6 which do mention evening and morning cannot be eternal or outside of physical time.This is a contradiction in what is convoluted explanation of a simple creation.
Also
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Plants if they are in the form of seeds can stay in the ground until germinated and so their is no problem having no Sun until the next day or year.
4
According to even your own intrepretation any day that has an evening and morning is a literal day within physical time.
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The usual reason Christians argue against a literal day of creation is that they have one foot in both camps .They want to believe Jesus came to save the world from the sin and death of Adam but they also want to believe in some kind of evolution.
Both Evolution and Jesus the sacrificial lamb cannot exist one has to be totally incorrect.
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If evolution is deemed dead in the water as a belief which I think it totally is then it doesnt matter whether the Earth is old or young and is just merely a trivia argument.
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God is all powerful and could create everything in 7 seconds or 7 minutes if he chose so to create so much in only 7days is totally within his ability .


urs staff

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staff Mar 27, 2022

Hi Platy,
The seven days were the beginning and so its not contradictiong what Jesus said.Genesis is a full book for instance but it isnt contradictory to say that Noahs Ark is in Genesis or the beginning.
Day six is still part of the beginning of creation,
urs staff

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BranchinVINE Mar 27, 2022


Hi Staff,

So "ALL" of his days are 930 yrs.It doesnt distinguish between heavenly days or Earthly days they according to this scripture are the same.All in the bible always means All.

Are heavenly days governed by earthly sun?


If as you suppose the 7th day is "eternal" and thats why it doesnt mention evening or morning then any days like day 6 which do mention evening and morning cannot be eternal or outside of physical time.

I would say that the first 6 days are not physical days but creation days with a beginning and an end. The 7th day is God’s eternal rest day with no beginning and end.


Plants if they are in the form of seeds can stay in the ground until germinated and so their is no problem having no Sun until the next day or year.

Trees were bearing fruit before the physical sun appeared.

Gen. 1:12-13 ”“
The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a third day.


According to even your own intrepretation any day that has an evening and morning is a literal day within physical time.

I did not say that. On the contrary, I was challenging your interpretation that every creation day is a literal day within physical time.


The usual reason Christians argue against a literal day of creation is that they have one foot in both camps .They want to believe Jesus came to save the world from the sin and death of Adam but they also want to believe in some kind of evolution.
Both Evolution and Jesus the sacrificial lamb cannot exist one has to be totally incorrect.

I do not believe in evolution.


God is all powerful and could create everything in 7 seconds or 7 minutes if he chose so to create so much in only 7days is totally within his ability .

But what doe the Bible say?

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MrBillPro Mar 27, 2022

I'm sure grateful I don't have to know how old the earth is to get into Heaven, Praise Jesus!

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