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NASA Reveals First James Webb Space Telescope Images

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TMK Jul 12, 2022

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2022/07/11/nasa-james-webb-space-telescope-images/

"We’re looking back more than 13 billion years,” NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said at the White House event. "Light travels at 186,000 miles per second, and that light that you are seeing from one of those little specks, has been traveling for over 13 billion years…."

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Lysa Jul 13, 2022


Those are some absolutely beautiful pictures from 13 billion years ago!!! :)

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TMK Jul 13, 2022

Absolutely! Ps. 19:1-2

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docs Jul 14, 2022

How can light stay that bright and crisp after travelling that long and that far? I might be laughing at myself if I wasn't serious! What am I missing here?

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narrowpath Jul 14, 2022

The earth and the heavens were created first, then the stars were put in place on day 4.

If you want to see the oldest thing in the universe, look into the sky or dig a hole in your garden or jump into the ocean.

I believe the bible more than scientists. Science changes all the time and and is always evolving, but not the Word of God.

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TMK Jul 14, 2022

/How can light stay that bright and crisp after travelling that long and that far? I might be laughing at myself if I wasn't serious! What am I missing here?//

Guess you need to read up on how it works! It’s pretty fascinating.

By the way you can see the Andromeda galaxy with binocs if you know where to look.

The idea of the universe being only a few thousand years old is not sustainable.

Y’all sound like NASA is just making it all up. Give me a break.

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narrowpath Jul 14, 2022

If God needed to wait 13 billion years before the history of mankind began, I think he would be extremely bored in heaven. Watching dust form into galaxies and them spining and continents drifting, dinosaurs fighting?


If I were God, I would also assign just days for creation and then get into the real important business of creating man and work on their redemption.

Creation is a peace of cake for God, but our redemption takes him thousands of years, because we are so much hard and work for God that it cost a lot of pain and patience, and in the end even his own son!

Stars and matter do everything God commands. Only man has the ability to say yes or no to God.

God gets far more glory in the redemption of your soul than in the grandeur of thousand galaxies!

There are cosmic events ahead stated in Revelation that will upset everything we think we know about the cosmos.

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BranchinVINE Jul 14, 2022

Perhaps 13 billion years of time is just the wink of an eye in timeless eternity.

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Lysa Jul 14, 2022

The problem lies in with men using their own man-minds to try to figure out 13 Billion years!!

God is asking you guys just like He asked Job in chapter 38...

"4 Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know!
Or who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its foundations set,
or who laid its cornerstone,
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

It would probably do us all well to humble ourselves and read Job 38 through 42 also.

God bless us all,
Lisa

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TMK Jul 14, 2022

//If God needed to wait 13 billion years before the history of mankind began//

13 billion years from when? Didn’t He exist before the universe was created?

What about the endless eons before His first creative act? God is self sufficient.

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ChrisA Jul 16, 2022

How ironic that you write as if anything existed outside of God, even time, before His first creative act. There were no endless eons before that. It is hard for us as human beings to grasp that in the beginning there was only the great I AM, and nothing else, not time, space, or any of the properties that can be measured.

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TMK Jul 16, 2022

Straight out of the mouth of Ken Ham!

If the Trinity had relationship and communion prior to creation, there was a passage of "time,” regardless how you wish to define it. Call it "duration” for lack of a better word. At some certain point after another certain point God decided to create.

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deogloria Jul 17, 2022

Just adding a few thoughts.
I think we need to be careful here that our comments are Biblical.

Example: "In the beginning."
This is not as in John 1:1, "from eternity,” but in the beginning of this sidereal system, of which our sun, with its attendant planets, forms a part. As there never was a time when God did not exist, and as activity is an essential part of His being (John 5:17), so, probably, there was never a time when worlds did not exist; (Ellicott's Commentary )

The Hebrew writer simply speaks of "the beginning” of the universe as the historic origin of time and space.
It is contended that "B’rêshîth,” being grammatically in "the construct state,” should be translated "In the beginning of,” or "In the beginning when”; and not, as if in "the absolute state,” (Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges )

"The heaven and the earth."
The normal phrase in the Bible for the universe (Deuteronomy 32:1; Psalm 148:13; Isaiah 2). To the Hebrew this consisted of our one planet and the atmosphere surrounding it, in which he beheld the sun, moon, and stars.(Ellicott's Commentary )

Therefore "something", or some Galaxies can have existed before Gen 1:1. The Biblical record about the 6 day Creation is only about the visible heaven, the earth and the sea.

Therefore what scientists keep discovering with new technology can be interesting and there can be some truth in it.
However I will never trust NASA again ! Just do a quick search about the founder, the lies etc and decide for yourself.

To give them billions of Dollars of taxpayers money for some new toys is madness ! Especially now when we are talking about food shortages etc.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

np:
you might be interested in the following video, it's in german
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRZIM-2Vzc

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narrowpath Jul 17, 2022

@deogloria
I like the video from Benjamin Kilchör, thanks for sharing, makes sense. I only wish he had expanded on שָׁמַיִם shâmayim "the heavens" appearing always only in the dual form, never in singular.
How did you come across this man?

Bist du etwa auch aus Deutschland oder der Schweiz oder aus Österreich?

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BranchinVINE Jul 18, 2022


Example: "In the beginning."
This is not as in John 1:1, "from eternity,” ………

Can anything that has a beginning be from eternity?


Therefore "something", or some Galaxies can have existed before Gen 1:1. The Biblical record about the 6 day Creation is only about the visible heaven, the earth and the sea.

If the heavens created in Gen. 1:1 are the "visible” heavens, is this "something’, or some Galaxies that existed before Gen. 1:1, in an "invisible” heaven?

Is the light from 13 billion years ago coming from some galaxies that existed before Gen. 1:1, from some "invisible” heaven?

Can telescopes see "invisible" light?


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TMK Jul 18, 2022

"It’s almost a spiritual experience because you realize there *was* a beginning.” NASA Administrator Bill Nelson.

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docs Jul 18, 2022

Who or what made that which came into being at the beginning Mr. Nelson? Yes, it can become a spiritual exprience.

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TMK Jul 18, 2022

I do not get the impression he is ruling out that God did it.

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TMK Jul 18, 2022

Isn’t it better to use the telescope findings as a witnessing opportunity instead of trying to explain them away as fake or lies?

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docs Jul 18, 2022

Yes, it should be used to witness. I was just having a bit of fun. I'm glad you shared this.

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