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Two kinds of SORROW

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Onesimus4God Jul 30, 2022

2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Oh how I have long cringed over the proclamation of preachers who tell convicted sinners that in order to be "saved", they must be sorry for their sins, yet they fail to make this distinction as described in this verse. And as the Apostle clearly proclaims, there is a distinction made as to which "sorrow" is spoken of. The preacher who fails to make such a distinction known, is a failure and a preacher of deception. For the "sorrow" that is decisive in producing salvation is the one that is distinguished by REPENTANCE. No "repentance" no sorry unto salvation.
REPENTANCE - Repentance is a decisive change in direction. It’s a change of mind that leads to a change of thinking that leads to a change of attitude that leads to a change of feeling that leads to a change of values that leads to a change in the way you live.
If there is no change in the way you live after repenting, then there is no hope of salvation, no matter how many times you have said the "sinner's prayer" or how many times you have been immersed in water. No repentance, no salvation. No compromise. It is what it is, and for it to last, it must be empowered not by determination, but by the manifest presence of the HOLY SPIRIT, that is promised to those repent (with the evidence of a changed life(style).
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Oh so true, yet the decision to "repent" is made by the individual believer, who has been made to understand that there are two choices. Godly repentance that leads to a change in lifestyle, mainly to decide to stop sinning. The second being a sorrow expressed without a willingness to stop doing that with which you are proclaiming that you are sorry for. To keep on sinning exposes the severe jeopardy one lives under, by believing a false pretense of the necessary reality that one MUST CHOOSE TO STOP SINNING, in order to receive SALVATION that is of YEHOVAH and not of man. One leads to everlasting life. The other continues to grow within like a cancer, and the result is both physical and spiritual death, now and for all eternity. Selah.
So dear reader, what do you base your salvation upon? The word of GOD or the lies of men (pulpiteers preaching deception)? You must decide. How do you decide? Look at how you live, my friend. Ask the LORD to expose the deception within, that leads to death. Ask HIM to empower you to change your mind, the kind of change that changes the way you live, not the words you say. I'll be praying for you, that you step aside from the modern concept of worldly sorrow, and into the SPIRIT empowered change that leads to new creation life, within and without. Thanks be to the MOST HIGH ELOHIM. Amen.
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

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docs Jul 31, 2022

No church or pastor I have ever been involved in has ever preached that being sorry for sins with no real repentance is acceptable before God. Where have you witnessed these things? It seems a bit ironic that you have made another harsh broadside post against the church and its erroneous ways and pastors etc., while at the same time you appear to be a proponent of modalism which is not in any way an accepted doctrine of God's true church.

In a very recent thread, "What is the Significance of the Local Church," you stated,

/There is one concern I have. You mention the "triune God". Really? My Bible says YEHOVAH our ELOHIM is ONE ELOMIM.
Agreed, for HIS own on choosing and purposes, HE has chosen to interface with man as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. HE is all of these, as one. Not 3. Surely HE has done all for out benefit to help us understand that HE is all in all and so much more. But three persons? That to me is a stretch I cannot reach. And I was raised the catholic, who originated this teaching. But then they also originated many other heresies supported by the protestant divisions. There is only ONE, and ONE BODY. HIS body.

Rom_16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

That's a tough assignment, but an assignment none the less./

It appears very much to be modalism you were advocating here. It is not sound doctrine and has long been denounced by the church as MAJOR error. Correct me if I am wrong about what I believe you were advocating. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the three members of the godhead, are ONE in unity, desire, and purpose. The original languages bear this out as far the word ONE is concerned. If you are advocating modalism, then the YEHOVAH ELOHIM you claim to worship is not the God of the Bible. And it is coming from you who are always making harsh, blistering posts against the church and the errors of its ways and its doctrines. While caught in MAJOR error yourself.

I stand corrected if I am wrong about your beliefs. You stated in the above post,

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith;" This can be a tough assignment also, but needful if one advocates wrong doctrine. It may be time for you to go back to class bro, instead of always harping on the church's errors and evil ways. Your own doctrinal vineyard may need a bit of tending to first. It just stands to reason.

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