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If it is not possible to live without sinning, then what is the use of living?

If it is not possible to live without sin, then what good is the gospel of Christ?

She will give birth to a Son, and you shall name Him Jesus (The LORD is salvation), for He will save His people from their sins.”
Luke 1 v 21

I guess I believe it really boils down to this. Are we made sinners because we committed actions of sin, or did we commit actions of sin because we were sinners? The actions of sin came as a result of the thing called sin that dwelled in us due to the fall of man. One really good study is to look at Romans 6-8 and carefully consider each time a noun is translated as sin and each time a verb is translated as sin. One is the indwelling body of sin that was from the fall. The other are the actions of man that align or do not align with the character and nature of God. Paul says that the body is dead because of sin but the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But just one chapter previous Paul says that the body of sin has been put to death in us and that we are totally free from sin...so don't yield to it anymore.

Will I ever come to a place in this life where the flesh (body, mind, will, and emotions) never again causes me to miss the mark? I would say, from what I read in scripture, no. Will I grow in holiness to be more like Him as I commune with Him through the right standing (righteousness) that has been imputed to me? Absolutely!!! And that means I should find myself sinning (missing the mark) less and less as I grow in Him. But the problem of indwelling sin (the body of sin as Paul called it) has been dealt with in the rebirth. I no longer am compelled to commit sins, and I don't have to be under bondage to sin any more.

Charles Finney said he met a woman who said she hadn't sinned in over 30 years (and he believed her). I think it's possible to come to a place where you're so close to Jesus, being totally obedient, that you won't want any of the pig slop of the world, the flesh and the devil anymore.

As for me, yes, I miss the mark sometimes. But it's something I'll never be okay with. I will never, ever make peace with any kind of sin.

"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." 1 Peter 4:1,2

Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord.

Righteous vs blameless vs sinless, do they mean 100% the same.

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Phil 2:14-16 Do all things without grumbling or disputing, that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast to the word of life, so that in the day of Christ I may be proud that I did not run in vain or labor in vain.

Blameless,innocent and without blemish.

Blameless - amemptos - blameless, deserving no censure (Tertullian irreprehensibilis), free from fault or defect.

Innocent - akeraios - unmixed, pure, as wine, metals, without admixture of evil, free from guile, innocent, simple.

Blemish - imperfection or bodily deformity excluding men from the priesthood, and rendering animals unfit to be offered in sacrifice.

The scripture lays it out so plainly: Blameless,innocent and without blemish.

Now the next queastion is why the church doesn't believe it?

The gospel of Jesus Christ is good news because we are forgiven for our sins, and not only that, we are set free from the power of sin. As we grow in the Lord we usually don’t have such a problem with the outward sins , but what the Lord is doing is revealing to us, the motives of our heart .

I realize more and more that there is nothing good in me, but Christ, and without the grace of God working in me, I am apt to really make a mess of things.

How do we explain these two scriptures that seem to contradict one another?

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3.9)

"If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.”
(1 John 1:8)

1 john 1:8 & 3:9.

I guess it is one of the nuances of bible translations, if one will read for example, the entire 1 John using ESV, a lot of confusion can be enlightened.

Reading them in isolation would be a mental trap.

I believe that the correct translation of (1 John 3:9) would be that those that are born of God does not habitually practice sin. I like the Amplified translation.

"No one who is born of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, because God’s seed [His principle of life, the essence of His righteous character] remains [permanently] in him [who is born again””who is reborn from above””spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose]; and he [who is born again] cannot habitually [live a life characterized by] sin, because he is born of God and longs to please Him.”

You say that we are forgiven of our sins, but that we are also set free from the power of sin. Free from the power of sin. How free? just a little free? So free as to never sin again? Or just a little free to not sin as much as before? When you say that we are free from the power of sin, what can we aspire to with that expression?

by Jhonny97or
If it is not possible to live without sin, then what good is the gospel of Christ?

It doesn't sound like you understand the gospel of the Kingdom of God! He is the ONLY ONE who lived as a man without sin.

Not to sound mean, but the gospel is not about you, it's about HIM! Take your focus off of you and put it on HIM and His all sufficiency!! You will see a difference!

God bless you,
Lisa

To those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people. 1 CORINTHIANS 1:2 Saints! In Christ! In these two sentences we have, perhaps, the most wonderful words in the entire Bible. andres murray It's all about Him. This verse tells me that there are some beings that He sanctifies, even though it's all about Him, here Paul talks about others that aren't Him and that's the question I'm dealing with. How would you sound if you said to the Apostle Paul, no, no, don't talk about the sanctified because it's all about him, don't mention the sanctified because it's all about him, it would be ridiculous. I'm asking a specific question, which you don't seem to have the courage to answer honestly. How holy can a sinner be who has been saved by Jesus? Oh Lord make me as Holy as a sinner saved can be.

When the Lord saw that Moses was coming to look, he called to him from the bush: - Moses, Moses! ”“ Here I am, he answered - Don't come near ”“ God told him -, take off your sandals because you are stepping on holy ground. EXODUS 3:4-5 And why was it holy ground? Because God had come there and occupied it. Where God is, there is holiness; it is the presence of God that sanctifies. We saw this reality in paradise when the human being was created. And in this passage, where Scripture uses the word holy for the second time, this fact is repeated and emphasized. Andrew Murray This is the topic I'm talking about. How can we say that God dwells in us and at the same time sin?

What good is the gospel? Christ's absolute sinless perfection is put to my account by God, that is grace - the wonder of the gospel!

It would be a terrible business to begin to analyze ourselves and take stock of ourselves, it would be endless with all that we know of ourselves and all God knows about us. The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. Though all that is fact we can yet stand before God in sinless perfection in Christ.

What a wonder is this gospel! We can now go on and serve God with all our hearts without constantly worrying about whether we are doing it adequately or not.

Such brokenness and humiliation are painful, but it is the humble who finds the saint. Just when the awareness of sin and weakness, and the discovery of the dominance of the ego make us fear that we can never become holy, the holy God gives himself. When we have reached the point of losing all hope of seeing in ourselves something better than sin, we lift our eyes to the holy God and realize that his promise is our only hope. Through faith the holy God reveals himself to the contrite soul, approaches it, takes possession and gives new life to the heart. Happy is the soul that is willing to learn the lesson that experiences of weakness and power, of emptiness and fullness, of profound humiliation and the enjoyment of the presence of the holy God dwelling in our being are simultaneous.

ANDREW MURRAY

Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? Job 42:3

"If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.”
(1 John 1:8)

John is countering the Gnostic teaching, Gnostics do not believe man is spiritually dead in sin but are in a state of stupefaction and need an some sort of "awakening” from this stupid state.

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3.9)

Being right with God is followed by doing right. Meaning that the righteous shall live by faith and live a righteous life.

Consider how, in the word, the servants of God are praised as righteous; (Gen. 6:9; 7:1; Matt. 1:19; Luke 1:6; 2:25; 2 Pet. 2:7) how the favour and blessing of God are pronounced upon the righteous; (Ps. 1:6; 5:13, 14:5; 34:16,20; 37:17,39; 92:13; 97:11; 144:8)

How the righteous are called to confidence, to joy. (Ps. 32:11; 33:1; 58:11; 64:11; 68:4; 97:12) See this especially in the Book of Psalms.

See how in Proverbs, although you should take but one chapter only, all blessing is pronounced upon the righteous. (Prov. 10:3,6,7,11,16,20,21,24,25,28,30,31,32

See how everywhere men are divided into two classes, the righteous and the godless. (Eccles 3:17; Isa. 3:10; Ezek. 3:18,20; 18:21,23; 33:12; Mal. 3:18; Matt. 5:45; 12:49; 25:46)

See how, in the New Testament, the Lord Jesus demands this righteousness; (Matt. 5:6,20; 6:33) how Paul, who announces most the doctrine of justification by faith alone, insists that this is the aim of justification, to form righteous men, who do right. Rom. 3:31; 6:13,22; 7:4,6; 8:4; 2 Cor. 9:9,10; Phil 1:11; 1 Tim. 6:11)

See how John names righteousness along with love as the two indispensable marks of the children of God. (1 John 2:4,11,29; 3:10; 5:2)

When you put all these facts together, it must be very evident to you that a true Christian is a man who does righteousness in all things, even as God is righteous.

And what this righteousness is, Scripture will also teach you.

It is a life in accordance with the commands of God, in all their breadth and height. The righteous man does what is right in the eyes of the Lord. (Ps. 119:166,168; Luke 1:6,75; 1 Thess. 2:10) He takes not the rules of human action; he asks not what man considers lawful. As a man who stands right with God, who walks uprightly with God, he dreads above all things even the least unrighteousness.

He is afraid, above all, of being partial to himself, of doing any wrong to his neighbour for the sake of his own advantage. In great and little things alike, he takes the Scriptures as his measure and line. As the ally of God, he knows that the way of righteousness is the way of blessing, and life, and joy.

Consider, further, the promises of blessing and joy which God has for the righteous, and then live as one who, in friendship with God, and clothed with the righteousness of His Son through faith, has no alternative but to do righteousness.

Andrew Murray the New Life

"You can always test the worth of your sanctification. If there is the slightest trace of self-conscious superiority about it, it has never touched the fringe of the garment of Christ." --Oswald Chambers, in Disciples Indeed from the Quotable Oswald Chambers.