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Mario Murillo: 5 Wrong Ways to Respond to the Asbury Revival

sermonindex Feb 25, 2023

Why is it so urgent to have the right response to the revival currently taking place at Asbury University in Wilmore, Kentucky? Well, let me answer that with a story about the California condor.

That great bird was virtually extinct when one of these giant vultures with a 10 foot wing span laid an egg. The nest was located high up in inaccessible mountains, yet the forestry service had to keep its location hidden. And for good reason.

It was all over the media. Naturalists tried to find the nest to photograph the egg. Others wanted to camp near the egg and video it in hopes of catching the moment that it hatched. It is ironic that the very people who claimed to dearly love the bird were the greatest threat to its life. It is strange that a bird so powerful, as an adult, is so vulnerable at birth. The same is true of revival””it is vulnerable to abuse, at birth.

In fact, your first reaction to the news about Asbury is a test of your condition before God.

Be honest. When you heard about Asbury, which did you feel: jealousy, hurt, criticism or doubt? Did you feel some kind of carnal curiosity about it? Some responded immediately by thinking of ways to exploit it to their own ends.

Here are five wrong ways to respond to Asbury:

1. Responding with carnal curiosity.

Are you a revival, prophetic or deliverance junkie? Do you binge on emotional events? Do you go with the latest buzz? If so, then consider staying away. You will do more harm than good.

Go because you are under conviction, ready to repent in the awe-inspiring presence of God. Go determined to return a changed person who can spread revival where you live. Don't go to get a cheap blessing.

2. Responding with doubt that it is a real revival.

If the first thing out of your mouth about Asbury was something like, "If this was a real revival, they wouldn't sing those kind of worship choruses, or use that translation of the Bible," you are reacting, but not discerning.

All revivals come to us through imperfect human beings. In many cases, God seizes human frailties for His glory. The Bible says, "We have this treasure in earthen vessels."

Andrew Murray had a great church in Cape Town, South Africa. He left it the hands of others during a sabbatical in England. He returned one Saturday evening to find the church house full of people wailing before God. He charged in and broke up the meeting, rebuking them for their "emotionalism." But when he stepped out of the church, he saw his father standing there weeping. His father said, "How dare you stop something that I have prayed to happen for 30 years."

This rebuke cut so deep that Andrew refused to preach for months. He sat in the back of the church, repentant and contrite. Finally, on one Sunday morning, the elders physically picked him up and carried him into the pulpit. Then the fire that had begun during that Saturday night prayer meeting hit him. That awakening won 5 million Africans to Jesus.

3. A response of jealousy by the old school.

Another irony of revival is the fact that those who were in the last revival are the first to have a bad spirit toward the new one. Jealous, perhaps, because they assumed that if God ever did it again, it would once again be through them.

John Wesley was defrocked by the Church of England because he preached outdoors instead of in a church building. The result was the Methodist revival that spread to five continents.

Decades later, the Methodist church moved to remove the ordination of two of their firebrands: William and Catherine Booth. You guessed it””they were preaching outdoors. Thus, the Salvation Army was born.

4. A response of arrogance by the new school.

It was Finney who observed that revivals die, both because of the bad spirit of the old school, and the arrogant spirit of the new school.

We have heard much about how there is no big-time preacher or leader of this miracle at Asbury. But I disagree, there are leaders. They may not be big names, but they are leading this revival. If there were no decision makers, there would just be chaos.

Whoever they are, they must stay pure in the insane glare of media attention.

Though they may be totally new to revival, they will be asked to do interviews and will be treated like experts. The pull toward arrogance is the devil's favorite weapon. It is lethal, sudden and arrives early.

They must shed the title of 'expert'. They must not feel superior to any who have gone before them. This miracle is not an endorsement of their talent or spiritual depth. This is the result of a God of love, desperate to save and has found an available core.

5.The response of being hurt.

A minister who has labored for decades with scant results can feel hurt, even dismayed, when any event flies from obscurity to worldwide acclaim in just a matter of days.

A preacher can feel like the Psalmist who said in Psalm 73:13-14, "Surely, I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocence. For all day long I have been plagued, and chastened every morning."

For this hurt, there is great healing and encouragement. There is an old saying, "The rising tide lifts all boats." Revival is that rising tide. It is not important where the awakening begins, because it will ultimately raise the tide of power and the effectiveness of all ministries and churches. That means that any victory in Christendom is our victory.

But revival does not just lift all boats, it brings them together in unity. Peter obeyed Jesus and cast the net into the water in Luke.

Here's what happened next:

"And when they had done this, they caught a great number of fish, and their net was breaking. So, they signaled to their partners in the other boat to come and help them. And they came and filled both the boats, so that they began to sink" (Luke 5:6-7).

Revival will bring the boats together in unity, and a massive number of souls into the kingdom.

Rejoice my brother! Rejoice my sister! You belong to a victorious army, and our side has just won a massive victory!

from: https://www.charismanews.com/politics/opinion/91534-mario-murillo-5-wrong-ways-to-respond-to-the-asbury-revival

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AbideinHim Feb 25, 2023


Mario Murillo goes back a long way. He lived in California when the revival hit, and Chuck Smith started Calvary chapel. The "Jesus Revolution " movie accurately portrays what happened at Calvary Chapel, the witnessing of Lonnie Frisbee, and how Chuck Smith was a spiritual father to Greg Laurie.

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ChrisA Feb 25, 2023

But the movie completely ignores Lonnie Frisbee being actively homosexual throughout his adult life until his death by Aids in 1993.

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TrueWitness Feb 25, 2023

While Lonnie Frisbee was instrumental in getting Chuck Smith to minister the gospel to young people (hippies), he did not stick around that long. According to Greg Laurie, Lonnie was at Calvary Chapel for about 1.5 years. I haven't seen the movie yet but Greg says the movie shows Lonnie's flaws although I don't know if homosexuality was mentioned specifically. I think the homosexuality thing caught people by surprise when it was announced that he had AIDS. So I don't know how you KNOW that Lonnie was "being active homosexual throughout his adult life". But yes, obviously there at the end he had homosexual encounter(s). He had been away from Calvary Chapel and active ministry FOR YEARS by that time. Here is an interview that Greg recently did concerning Lonnie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjoKdlParx4

-Daniel

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AbideinHim Feb 25, 2023

Greg Laurie did several interviews, and he was very open about Lonnie frisbees homosexuality. Lonnie Frisbee was a gifted young man and if he would’ve stayed under the leadership of Chuck Smith he probably could’ve made it through OK, but when they had a disagreement concerning the role that Lonnie was to play at Calvary Chapel, it was then that Lonnie left, and then got involved with the Vineyard movement, Lonnie was used with signs and wonders but he lacked the character that was needed, and that’s why he fell into sin the way but he did, but he did repent before he died. Greg Laurie actually visited Lonnie in the hospital before he died.

This is a very good lesson for every young person that is being used by the Lord in the gifts of the spirit, especially prophecy and healing. They need to be under a mature man of God, and be developed in their character and in the fruit of the spirit.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Feb 26, 2023

Hi ChrisA,

Have you had the opportunity to watch the film? I watched an interview with Greg Laurie in which he states that the film covers Lonnie Frisbee's issues in the film.

Interestingly, I had never heard of Lonnie Frisbee until I watched that YouTube interview featuring Greg Laurie. My wife and I often listen to Chuck Smith's Bible teaching library online (along with other Bible teachers). We typically listen to those that correspond with our Bible studies each morning.

I don't think that I've ever heard Chuck Smith mention him in any audio teaching either. Greg Laurie did say that Chuck Smith spoke at Lonnie Frisbee's funeral. He compared him to Samson -- a man with some deep sin issues intermingled with times being used for God.

I just learned of the film ("Jesus Revolution") last week. I'm interested in watching it; however, I'd appreciate hearing others' words who have actually seen it.

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passerby Feb 26, 2023

Jesus Revolution movie followed the life narrative of Greg Laurie. Chuck Smith and Lonnie Frisbee were the 'spiritual mentors' of Greg Laurie at the time of his conversion in 1970.

There were tragic facts and stories of 'falling away' in the real course of events which I think we should accept squarely as they were with a non-judgemental attitude, without bitterness, and loss of faith.

The glamour of christian ministry during that time had been a snare for many church workers. The lack of quality time with God or church elders, the shallow sense of holiness, the shallow prayers though eloquently and beautifully stated in between and during gospel campaigns, the emergence of 'spiritual' formulas, and the cadence of church activies, paved the way to inner spiritual decline and burn out.

As far as I know, the charismatic revival of the seventies was a global one. Aboard the ships, aboard the planes, in the passenger buses, among the street vendors, people were carrying their bible, sharing Jesus, sharing their money, their meals, their homes, helping, guiding other believers as they pass and meet one another with no regard to denomination or skin color. Many congregations and fellowships were established among urban, rural, and educational communities. It seemed like believers were everywhere.

What a privilege to be converted during that time, but sad facts then followed. I myself went to and grew up in the wilderness.


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TMK Feb 26, 2023

Steve Gregg is a Bible teacher who was involved in the Jesus Movement from the beginning and here is what he has to say about Lonnie Frisbee (referencing the new movie that is out):

"There are many things about Lonnie that have made both Calvary Chapel and Vineyard, reasonably, downplay his role in the early parts of their movements. Every sin and idiosyncrasy of Lonnie's has been publicized””often without attention to chronology. The most embarrassing features of his life are those at the beginning of his Christian profession, and those into which he fell after the peak of his ministry. Lonnie was very flakey and unsophisticated. His personality was very much like that of a child””which may have caused God to delight in him.

His discovery of Jesus was independent of exposure to Christians or churches. He used drugs prior to his interest in Christ, and it was while he was on drugs that he came to believe in Jesus, whom he began to grasp through his private reading of scripture. He was professing faith in Jesus before he gave up his drugs and mysticism””largely because he did not know any Christians, and did not know the Bible well enough to know these were sinful.

He had struggled with homosexuality from childhood (having been molested by a male for many years in his youth), but, after being converted, he married Connie in a good faith attempt to live as a straight Christian. His marriage failed, but not (as I understand it) due to homosexuality, but because he, like many preachers, did not balance his commitments between ministry and marriage. My impression is that Connie divorced him, not vice versa””though I am not certain.

To my knowledge, he was never very balanced, though I have no doubt that he loved and sought to live for Jesus. He was thrust into celebrity status almost as soon as he was converted, and did more preaching than actual learning.

Eventually, after (it seemed to me) his ministry had crested and was on the decline, he experienced rejection from both of the movements that he had helped to establish, and he began to backslide. The testimonies of those who describe him partying on Saturday nights and preaching on Sunday mornings appear to be describing that season. He spent some years in this condition, but after getting AIDS, I believe he repented and died faithful to Christ. God alone knows his heart, but I have always been persuaded that the above summary is correct.

There are many people who were closer to him than I was, and who may be able to correct some aspects of this timeline. However, I have always believed that Lonnie's original commitment to Christ (or his understanding of its implications) was somewhat incremental in its development (as has often been the case, as with Apollos””Acts 18:25-26). Some of his earliest exposure to Christian ministries was to that of extreme Pentecostals, which obviously appealed to him.

His association with Chuck would have provided a balance to this, since Chuck was himself a "recovering Pentecostal," who rejected all extremism (except for in eschatology). Lonnie never really moved far in Chuck's direction concerning the moderation of Pentecostal practices. It is this fact, as I understand it, that caused a rift between Chuck and, both, Lonnie and John Wimber.

In the heyday of the Jesus Movement, I believe, Lonnie was a true Christian, who never acquired much balance, before he slipped back into sinful behavior. It is difficult for an outside observer (like the maker of the video), decades later, to look objectively at that season during which God really brought forth much fruit from Lonnie's ministry. In retrospect, his failures loom too large to see much of anything else clearly.

The founding of the Calvary Chapel Jesus Movement occurred, I believe, in that time when Lonnie was at his best as a Christian. He was weak, however, and did not last long in his struggles against the world, the flesh and the devil.

Some of his friends were offended when, at his funeral, Chuck compared Lonnie with Samson. However, it seemed to me a very apt comparison. Both men failed to ever become very saintly, and were ultimately destroyed by their lusts and compromises. However, both were also chosen and uniquely empowered to accomplish many things for God. Samson is now in the the Book of Hebrews' hall of faith (Heb.11). I am not willing to say Lonnie does not also belong there.

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