O my...My dear friend Mek, (We have had a bit of conversation in the past). This is truly astounding in not only what has and is transpiring but the uncanny similarities and the follow ups here.This I believe speaks volumes:“you’re not too far from the kingdom” says Christ.Even coming from my own personal... events leading up to a more solidified commitment, how far back one could go. Thoughts of God at a very early age, Church upbringing, the rebellious years, the confusion years. Like Aregay in some fashion there were things I 'knew' but hadn't assimilated perhaps while at the same time resisting the strong demands on my soul, yes, almost 'Christian'. Took me a bit, but dug up an old ditty I remember writing back in the 'Garage Band' days. We never got anywhere and looking back on it, it is very strange as I was 'far' from the Kingdom, didn't own a bible, wasn't even going to church then. Seem to recall it being around the aftermath of the whole PTL scandal and must have gathered it out of various misgivings from televangelists, stranger still, this was prior to becoming sucked in to the very things I was writing about... Almost prophetic looking at it now and not very eloquent...Don't Feed The Vultures Make a vow, you in despairTo nourish our appetiteTo show the Lord you careFeed us your titheEvery weekYour soul has no costTo high, to steepFalse wind of doctrineBeware of their powerCircling high aboveSearching out their prey,The desolate they devourVolatile. The easy mealThey say "Without you brother,we can no longer heal"Dependant on the feebleThey sell you a lieAnd put on a spectacleRight before your eye'sFalse winds of doctrineUnder their wings they glideThe vultures of deceptionDrop from the skyVery much a rough draft, but it was something that I look back at in wonder, where it came from. I would have never thought of myself as a Christian then, at least not in the fashion I had imagined one to be. All this to say... I just don't know, how these things can be. Where the impulse comes from, well in hindsight surely, but at the time, to be on the 'outside' in that sense and yet... defending. Even recalling another topic mentioned awhile back here about taking the Lords name in vain and our response's to it, recall from those days past jumping to defend Gods name or Jesus', when it was used in such vulgar fashion with a "What does God/Jesus have to do with it?" Which usually would be met with silence. Strange, that compulsion coming from a hypocrite.Very much on the same line as the questions raised by arbustum:just a question, to those who defended Christ before they were 'saved', was it anything like this: you knew the basics behind proper christianity, that being the following of the Christ, noone else! except you refused to call him your Lord and saviour at that stage, knowing the basics you argued on the truth?Yeah, sort of, strange isn't it?was it out of frustration becuase people were trying to pass judgements not really knowing what they were talking about?Exactly, and yet not knowing what you 'knew' at the same time. In other words, "I am not sure what it is, but it isn't that" i want to understand what brought you to defend him before you loved him enough to relinquish your life to his cause. That is a powerful question, the only possible explanation to my understanding is that it was despite ourselves, the Lord doing what He pleased at the time and ourselves not grasping it until much further down the road. The timing here is interesting, felt led yesterday to Gen:20 regarding Abimelech and his responding to God after taking Sarah;Gen 20:3 But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife. Gen 20:4 But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, Lord, wilt thou slay also a righteous nation? Gen 20:5 Said he not unto me, She is my sister? and she, even she herself said, He is my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocency of my hands have I done this. Gen 20:6 And God said unto him in a dream, Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her.Maybe what I am trying to articulate is that God doesn't need our permission to do what He chooses to do.Hope this doesn't detract from all that Mekdi brought forth here. It has been just a tremendous encouragement to see the ongoing answers to prayer, the transformation of Aregay from 'here to there', even as it is being played out right now. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! Rom 11:33