AbideinHim wrote:
The churches that have emphasized the gifts of the spirit with without teaching on the fruit of the spirit have got into all kinds of extremism. We need both the fruit of the spirit and the gifts of the spirit, and the gifts of the spirit work by the love of God, and one of the fruits of the spirit is self control .
Yes we do need both but those against speaking in tongues always say, "You NEED the fruit of the Spirit as much as the gifts!” My goodness, if I’ve heard that once, I’ve heard it 1000 times but do you know who else NEEDS the fruit of the Spirit in their lives? Those doing the accusing! Where’s their goodness? Their kindness? Their gentleness? Their faithfulness, peace, patience, joy self-control and love??? I’m just saying! 😊 :) This is a two-way street we got going here!
I don’t know who said it but "The gifts of the Spirit prove that God can USE human beings but the fruit of the Spirit prove that God can CHANGE human beings.” And that is the truth!!
Any (and all) abuse of the Holy Spirit’s gift does NOT disprove the Holy Spirit still giving His gifts out to man-kind. The Holy Spirit is baptizing inmates in jail! They are hungry to be overcomers!! And God is meeting them behind the iron bars!! I stand amazed!!
Before the Bible was readily available years and years ago, God still filled His people with His Spirit. My friend’s great-great-great grandfather was a circuit rider (who prayed in tongues) and people tried to stone him with fruit, sticks and rocks and whatever they had handy when he rode into town. They didn’t understand the power of God then and they still don’t today.
I am a true believer that a Christian cannot live an overcoming life without the power of God and I feel that way because of what Christ has done in me since baptizing me with His Holy Spirit 44 years ago.
This was not intended for anyone person, so please do not personally take offense!
God bless us all as we read the word of God without fear and unbelief,
Lisa
PS: I love Jason Upton, Robert!