Salvation Working in My Family

I just wanted to send a note to all believers here today for encouragement and celebration.

We are a family of six, and my wife and I are biblically saved.
Last year my 14 year old daughter was saved, and today my 18 year old son was saved!

That's four out of six and my other two boys are actively seeking Jesus with all their hearts.

I truly believe they will be saved as well.

May God be glorified and I hope all who read this will glorify God as well.

If your two other boys are actively seeking Jesus with all their hearts why do you say they are not "saved?”

Because there hasn't been conversion yet. You can seek Jesus all you want but it's head knowledge. You don't get saved on your own merits and actions. God draws, God saves.

What will happen to them if the Lord Jesus returns while they are still waiting to be saved?

If they are elected for salvation, then they'll be saved one way or the other. That's in God's hands. As long as they're actively seeking His grace, that's all I care about.

If God draws and God saves and a person elected for salvation will be saved one way or the other, then what is the purpose of anyone actively seeking God's grace?

A person that wants to be saved will start to activity search God because they want Him so badly. Even if someone searches God for 10 years He might not save them because it isn't God's will yet or never. Actively search God and basically let Him know that you are sericeous and then God will look in His Lambs Book of Life and see if you are in it or not. But you have to be patent and let God do what He wants. Just keep searching Him and He will save you or he might not. That's why Christians say "I will serve and warship you all my life even if I go to Hell in the end." This shows God also that you are serious.

This is the first time I have heard this teaching.

Is it so hard to be a Christian, so hard to be saved?

That's why Christians say "I will serve and warship you all my life even if I go to Hell in the end." This shows God also that you are serious.

I have not heard the apostle Paul said anything like that.

He said:

Rom. 10:11-13 ”“
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed. ”………the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

And he said:

Phil. 3:14 ”“
I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

And he said:

2 Tim. 4:7-8 ”“
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.

Paul was sure of his destination. Hell was not on his radar. I will imitate him.

In fact, I can't think of any scripture that says that a person who serves and worships God can go to hell.

KB4-

That is one of the most absurd things I have ever read. Good grief.

It is hard to become a Christian, because you cant do anything that will make God save you any faster then He will. You cant change His will so all you can do is search for Him as much as you can and hope and pray that you will be saved one day.

I suppose we must ask then who saves whom?

Does God save or does our active seeking Him save?

Can you all answer this question simply with scripture?

Another thing I find fascinating, is none here have given God one ounce of glory for this miracle!

I suppose it's more important to hash over gnats than simply praise God?

Greg doesn’t want Calvinism debated on this forum. It has been done ad nauseum over the years.

Just keep your Calvinism to yourself.

KB4Christ,

I felt to respond to your using of a quote I love, that of having faith in God and serving Him regardless of the outcome, whether heaven or hell.

To actually believe that, and not just say it is a deep work of God in the spirit of a man. It is not the sentiment of someone seeking salvation, but rather the sentiment of someone who is so grateful for what Christ has done for them, has experienced trials and chastisements, testings and crosses, known what it is to feel as if God is miles away as He withhold His presence and guidance to teach His sons faith, and ultimately has come to a place where the walk of faith is so real to them that they have seen the depths of God and His worth and never have pretense to think they know God's purposes in His dealing with the world through them.

It's a sentiment of the worth of Christ and that we have absolutely nothing to offer Him except a vessel through which to express Himself to the world, and that is enough. It sees that Christ is all, and we just branches, vessels and containers.

It's a statement of the worth of Jesus, and a sentiment expressing a desire for God Himself, and nothing from Him. It's a sentiment of motivation, and a result of the sanctifying work of Christ which results in the only concern being deeper and higher than even good and evil, but rather life and the glory of God.

I won't debate letters with you, but will offer this rebuke - if you see a Jesus that hides Himself from anyone that seeks Him to be saved, you have seen a pagan idol, an angel of light, some other god.

RandR,

That is wonderful news by the way. I have prayed for your family, that all might have Christ and fellowship together. I am the only believer in my family, and it is the most sanctifying experience God can place someone in, and Jesus must have full working through us in reality and love. Have faith for their salvation brother, and it shall be done.

I will say this too, it's refreshing to read of an actual miracle that followed the plow in this section, rather than just looking for vague blessing and things from God, so thank you also for that.

I rejoice with you, brother RandRman2023!

My daughter got saved 3 years ago, that is 1 out of 4, 3 more to go...

Lord, please continue your work in the other siblings of my brother, reveal to them their current state and the kingdom of of God. Let them see the change in those who just came in. May they all continue in prayer and not cease.

If you feel drawn to Jesus then believe that it is Him who is drawing you and act on it. Don't get stymied and think that even though I want to be saved, maybe I'm not one of the elect. That type of doubt will stay with you to the grave if you let it.

Revelation 22:17 "The Spirit and the bride say, "Come.” Let anyone who hears this say, "Come.” Let anyone who is thirsty come. Let anyone who desires drink freely from the water of life.”

-Daniel