TMK
Oct 22, 2023
Thanks Todd,
This is a very gentle and patient instruction as well as a good and detailed treatment of the arguments and fair inclusion and application of Scriptures. It's well worth the read on a lot of levels.
It’s just nice to see the two views laid out like this. Makes it easy to find scriptures for the two views.
I really like both Steve G. And Mike Brown and I know their hearts. I lean toward Steve Gs view but it’s not a slam dunk.
Hopefully someone can fix the weird way this is showing up in the feed (toooo big).
Hi Todd,
Thanks for posting this. Here is the shortened form of the link:
https://www.matthew713.com/notes/files/Israel_a_response_to_Dr_Michael_Brown-v2.pdf
*EDIT - Feel free to edit your post with this shortened link (to help with the layout issue).
Todd. I listened to a few of his YouTube q and a’s. I can see that you like his interpretations and teaching. :)
Thanks Chris”” done
I object to Steve Gregg's calling Dr. Brown a "Christian Zionist". Zionism wants Israel to be a theocracy based on the Old Testament with no gentiles living anywhere inside Israel. Apparently he feels that if you believe God isn't through with the Jewish race and will still work with them, you are a Zionist. I agree with him that God has no plan to rebuild the Temple. We know that the Jews rejected the Messiah when he came because they did not recognize him. And so they are still waiting for him to come and rebuild the temple. And just as God used the sins of Joseph's brothers to bring about a good and excellent thing, I believe the Jews rebuilding the Temple will accomplish a similar thing. There will be much pain and suffering involved but the Jews will recognize their error of receiving a false Messiah and mourn over their rejection of the true Messiah Jesus. I don't know if each and every Jew who is alive then will be saved but surely a remnant will. Praise God!
-Daniel
my dear Chris,
bless for your linking to a 292 page "refutation" of Michael Brown....this is NOT directed to you, nor any precious soul on this website, but between reading the piper thread on coffee, and the response to Michael on this thread, by stephen somebody, i fighting the urge to lay my forehead flat on this desk, and imploring the LORD, like breath, 'please help us LORD" (I AM WHAT I AM) or ..or...or any prayer, so simple like as a helpless child.
Hi Chris, it's me, neil g, up on the Ridge, its zero dark hundred, and yes, i have my cup of tar black NAVY coffee, as has been my routine since 17 tears old, when i began my training as a US Navy Korean linguist/intel analyst, that was 46 years ago, and you and i have exchanged many a post, if i spoke in haste to you in the past, please forgive me.
Chris, do you believe the times we are in? i know you and others see it, with physical eyes, and the eyes of the soul, ......meaning the Eyes of Christ.
i could bullet point a list of an age,this age similar to Judges, "every man did as he saw fit"....or Job 1, where the Accuser, Satan, etc was ALLOWED to , whilst in the Heavenly Council, continue this foul dark one to keep treading the Earth......smell that sulfur?
so what do we do, vapors and blades of grass we all are?
Contend.
i am desirous to write more to you, but i am so weary, but i will button this post with two Precious Portions of Scripture...."Our LORD is a consuming Fire".....'what do you mean by that, neil'?
i dont know, just scudded thru my soul, like a cloud. (look in the "News and Events" section, "A Bomb in the Basement")
and
"Jesus Wept"....me too.
much agape love, neil
Neil just to be clear- I posted the link- not Chris.
It is simply a clear side by side east to read scripturally supported summary of the issues.
ADD: I did want to add that I have the utmost respect and admiration for Dr. Brown and agree with him 95% of the time. I still hold his sermon "Holy Desperation” as the best I have ever heard, and which influenced me most.
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