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True revival is going to upset the Applecart by Brent Williamson

sermonindex Nov 27, 2023


Did you know CH Spurgeon used to call out sin from the pulpit, and that was the custom back in those days when churches thrived. As hard as it may seem but a lot of the Calvinistic churches back in the 1800s were far more apostolic in many ways than the apostolic churches today who are Pentecostal.

Today, an American pastor would probably be fired for being to harsh and unloving.

A true apostolic church is confrontational and aggressive.
We have gotten way too used to pampered churches, and some even call themselves apostolic.

True revival is going to upset the Applecart.

from: https://www.facebook.com/brent.williamson.39

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AbideinHim Nov 27, 2023

"A true apostolic church is confrontational and aggressive.
We have gotten way too used to pampered churches, and some even call themselves apostolic.”

God is merciful and He takes no delight in exposing sin. The Holy Spirit convicts men of sin so that there will be true repentance.
However, when there is unrepentant sin in the Church, which is a cancer, the Lord will use His servants to expose it.

Do we really want the power of God fully released in the Church? With that will come great blessing, but also judgment resulting in incidents such as what occured with Ananias and Sapphira repeating itself.

sermonindex Nov 27, 2023


Yes the way we expose sin and talk about it on social media is way different then the holy spirit speaking mercifully through a vessel in a meeting bringing conviction on someone. The Holy Spirit does not shame us or slander us.

Severe public warnings are Gods last way of judgment which is usually an judgement that happens to the individual. Many can still be unaware of the persons fault.

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Lysa Nov 27, 2023

Mike wrote:
God is merciful and He takes no delight in exposing sin. The Holy Spirit convicts men of sin so that there will be true repentance.

I totally agree with Mike.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke SHALL BE DESTROYED B/C OF THE ANOINTING. ~ Is 10:27

Emotionalism and shaming and making people feel guilty does not break the yoke of bondage. This is what is MISSING in our lives and churches in this late hour, is the anointing! The precious anointing that comes from a yielded life.

How does one have a yielded life? Not in front of the computer or TV, that's for sure.

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ESchaible Nov 27, 2023

Lysa said:
"How does one have a yielded life... Not in front of the computer..."

"Do you suppose, O man””you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself””that you will escape the judgment of God?" -Paul

I think it may be important to add that when sin is called out, it must be done from a place of purity and love. We walk in that which makes manifest... Light. Jesus exposes the depths of mans hearts, and does so without a shred of hypocrisy.

So when judging, we should always make sure we don't practice the things we expose.

"Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man””you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself””that you will escape the judgment of God?" -Paul


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brothagary Nov 28, 2023


I Think this is a good example of what the article is referring to which is Charles Spurgeon moving in the charismatic revaltory gift some would call it prophecy or the word of knowledge hence he's more apostolic prophetic as a calvinist than many Pentecostals who don't operate in that gift or churches who rarely ever operate from the pulpit in such way


Spurgeon himself wrote about occasions where the Holy Spirit gave him words for people while he was preaching. He writes,


"There were many instances of remarkable conversions at the Music Hall; one especially was so singular that I have often related it as a proof that God sometimes guides His servants to say what they would themselves never have thought of uttering, so that He may bless the hearer for whom the message is personally intended. While preaching in the hall, on one occasion, I deliberately pointed to a man amid the crowd and said, "There is a man sitting there, who is a shoemaker; he keeps his shop open on Sundays, it was open last Sabbath morning, he took ninepence, and there was fourpence profit out of it; his soul is sold to Satan for fourpence!"


A city missionary, when going his rounds, met with this man, and seeing that he was reading one of my sermons, he asked the question, "Do you know Mr. Spurgeon?" "Yes," replied the man, "I have every reason to know him, I have been to hear him; and, under his preaching, by God's grace, I have become a new creature in Christ Jesus. Shall I tell you how it happened? I went to the Music Hall and took my seat in the middle of the place; Mr. Spurgeon looked at me as if he knew me, and in his sermon, he pointed to me and told the congregation that I was a shoemaker and that I kept my shop open on Sundays; and I did, sir. I should not have minded that, but he also said that I took ninepence the Sunday before and that there was fourpence profit out of it. I did take ninepence that day, and fourpence was just the profit, but I could not tell how he should know that. Then it struck me that it was God who had spoken to my soul through him, so I shut up my shop the next Sunday. At first, I was afraid to go again to hear him, lest he should tell the people more about me; but afterward, I went, and the Lord met with me and saved my soul.”


Spurgeon elaborates that his experience of the word of knowledge (not his term) was not uncommon in his ministry:


"I could tell as many as a dozen similar cases in which I pointed at somebody in the hall without having the slightest knowledge of the person, or any idea that what I said was right, except that I believed the Spirit moved me to say it; and so striking has been my description, that the persons have gone away, and said to their friends,” Come, see a man that told me all things that ever I did; beyond a doubt, he must have been sent of God to my soul, or else he could not have described me so exactly.” And not only so, but I have known many instances in which the thoughts of men have been revealed from the pulpit. I have sometimes seen persons nudge their neighbors with their elbow because they had got a smart hit, and they have been heard to say, when they were going out, "The preacher told us just what we said to one another when we went in at the door."


Charles H. Spurgeon, The Autobiography of Charles H. Spurgeon, Vol. 2: 1854-1860 (Philadelphia: American Baptist Publication Society, 1899), 226-227.

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ESchaible Nov 28, 2023

Gary,

While I do sense a certain amount of fishing in your post, I'll bite.

Surprisingly we agree on something finally. I believe that Spurgeon was operating in that capacity, and that is the true gift. What is false is what we see today. What we see popularized today is fortune telling. What Spurgeon operated in, that is the Holy Spirit.

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murrcolr Nov 28, 2023

Quote: What is false is what we see today. What we see popularized today is fortune telling. What Spurgeon operated in, that is the Holy Spirit.

You should be more precise - as there are men and women out there who do operate in the gifts of the Spirit and I am sure you would agree with that.

We know in these last days many false prophets will arise, so we have to look a bit deeper into those who claim to speak for Him.

I will be honest with you - I am Called to be a Prophet - my time hasn't come yet - but this one thing I know God requires me to be Holy, just as he is Holy.

A more excellent way - "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.” No matter how special the words are, if they aren’t helping anyone, they are just noise.

"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.”

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.”

It's is a description of God himself and this is character we should be looking for in those who claim to represent him.

When God started speaking to me about Holiness, he got a book into my hand called - "Holiness the Key to Revival"

Holiness is the Key to Revival

I believe that you can't expect true revival to come unless you have God's character. What I mean my true revival the tangible presence of God himself so that when he comes people around just collapse. Genesis 17:3, Joshua 5:14, Matthew 17:6, Acts 9:4 and 26:14.

Scripture says who can ascend the hill of the Lord? Or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

Going back to the character what I mean it's Holiness.

I enjoy reading Samuel Brengle description of the day he was given a clean heart and made Holy.

Samuel Brengle - He gave me such a blessing as I never had dreamed a man could have this side of Heaven. It was a Heaven of love that came into my heart. In that hour, I knew Jesus and I loved Him until it seemed my heart would break with love. I loved the sparrows, I loved the dogs, I loved the horses, I loved the little urchins on the street, I loved the strangers who hurried past me, I loved the heathen, I loved the whole world. You want to know what Holiness is? It is pure love.

Samuel Brengle - You want to know what the baptism of the Holy Ghost is? It is not a mere sentiment. It is not a happy sensation that passes away in the night. It is a baptism of love that brings every thought into captivity to the Lord Jesus, that casts out all fear, that burns up doubt and unbelief as fire burns coal, that makes one meek, and lowly in heart.

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ESchaible Nov 28, 2023

"Pure love alone, reigning in the heart and life, this is the whole of Christian perfection" -John Wesley

Amen Colin. I thank the Lord He is showing you these truths.

Always remember though, make your calling and election sure, and a prophetic calling is a calling to utter death, more so than others. The irony is, the calling itself must be placed on the cross, in order to be resurrected in glory, if it is the Lord's will.

In this day and age, it seems everyone is a prophet. The church is to be prophetic, and many mistake that urgency and corporate call with the individual calling to the office.

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deltadom Dec 9, 2023

I know that when I get anywhere close you get enemies coming at you out of the woodwork

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