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Genesis 2:25 And they were both naked, Adam and his wife, and were not ashamed.

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ArthurRosh Dec 11, 2023

Genesis 2:25
And they were both naked, Adam and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Bishop Vissarion (Nechaev):

Adam and Eve, until they transgressed the commandments of God, did not feel disordered sensual movements in themselves. Looking at each other, did not allow unclean thoughts within themselves. Their mind was so bright that it was not darkened by lust: their love for God was so pure that it easily removed from their hearts sensual attachment to each other. Their sexual relations were of a blameless nature, because their goal was not the satisfaction of lust, but the fulfillment of God’s blessing: be fruitful and multiply. Therefore, neither feeling anything unclean in themselves, nor suspecting each other of the unclean thoughts aroused in a sinner by looking at another’s nakedness, they had no reason to be ashamed of their nakedness. Such was the state of innocence of the first people. How long it lasted is unknown.

Fr. Dimitry Baritsky:

The sublime view of women that we find in the Bible is striking. Scripture says that God created Eve from the rib of Adam. The Hebrew word can be translated as side. So the woman is the side of a man, a facet of his being, she is of the same nature as he.

This passage reveals one of the greatest truths - man was created for communication! The fathers teach that in this way we are like God. After all, the Lord is the eternal communion of three Divine Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Man is called to the same communication with a creature similar to himself. That is why Adam, at some point in his life, acutely felt the need for another, just like him. The first woman became this other full-fledged person. So the wife is not just someone who entertains Adam at his leisure. She is the being who helps Adam become what he should become according to God’s plan, fully human. Therefore, Scripture emphasizes that man and woman complete each other. Having entered into marriage, they become one, gaining that fullness of communication to which they are called and for which they yearn.

Why has everything changed so much since then? The answer is the Fall. The one whom Scripture calls Satan, that is, the enemy, using the serpent, first seduces the wife, and then through her Adam. Together they break the commandment that the Lord gave them - they eat the forbidden fruit. The result is disaster. Everything in the world is turned upside down.

One of the most serious consequences of breaking a commandment is a change in the relationship between the two halves of a human being. If earlier, being naked, they were not ashamed of each other, because each felt the other as a continuation of themselves, now they make clothes for themselves from leaves. This is nothing more than an unconscious desire to hide from each other. Evidence that the former unity and mutual understanding is disappearing.

Now people begin to live according to the laws of the rough, animal world, in which one law reigns: whoever is stronger is right. What we would call a rigid vertical of power appears. As a more gentle creature, the wife falls under the power of her husband. Now her life is completely dependent on him: he is forced to earn food for his family by the sweat of his brow and protect her from danger. Therefore, Adam gives his wife a name only after the Fall. This is a sign of his power over her. So Eve pays for having done her part in breaking God’s commandment.

Everything changed when Christ came. It was He who gave man the strength, already here, in this life, to return to that heavenly state in which people were before their departure from God. And therefore, a full-fledged relationship between a man and a woman, the path to true unity between them is, first of all, the path of following Christ and His Church.

Saint Demetrius of Rostov:

Adam and his wife were both naked in paradise, and were not ashamed (just as small babies are not ashamed today), for they did not yet feel within themselves carnal lust, which is the beginning of shame and about which they knew nothing then. This very thing, their dispassion (Grk. apatheia) and innocence were a beautiful robe for them. What clothes could be more beautiful for them than their pure, virgin, immaculate flesh, delighting in heavenly bliss, nourished by heavenly food and overshadowed by the grace of God?

Saint Augustine (City of God 14.17):

Man and woman were aware, of course, of their nakedness, but they felt no shame, because no desire stirred their organs in defiance of their deliberate decision. The time had not yet come when the rebellion of the flesh was a witness and reproach to the rebellion of man against his Maker.

tbc...
https://ekzeget.ru/bible/bytie/glava-2/stih-25/

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Lysa Dec 11, 2023


When they walked in Eden, they were in His presence 100% and they had no need of shame. They were one with their God!

How can people in a sinful state judge when Adam and Eve walked with God in Eden, a non-sinful state? Our arrogance!

But one day we will walk in Eden and be one with our Father, brother and Holy Spirit! Almost can't wait!!!

God bless,
Lisa

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deltadom Dec 12, 2023

It is an interesting concept the aspect of being unfallen
I think in the book perelandra c s Lewis describes someone who doesn't understand what the word war means

There are so many concepts that Adam and eve would have had that we don't understand

In the beginning, there was no concept of murder or of illness or things like fear

Imagine a future world in the millennium where there will be no things like hospitals or security

Sin has affected so many areas in our lives and to try and imagine a world without sin especially during the eternal state

With the Welsh revival , there was no criminal courts and the police became pointless

To even imagine a world in which everyone has perfect bodies and minds and jesus is glorified

I know perelandra c s Lewis tries to explore the concept of an unfallen world
I long for the presence of God and am desperate for it

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twayneb Dec 14, 2023

There would have been no corruption before the fall. As such, man and woman would not have looked on their physiological differences as something with which to be tempted. Marriage is a holy thing, and a beautiful picture of Christ and the church. But perhaps in marriage there is also a little hearkening back to Adam and Eve. In a healthy marriage, the husband and wife are not at all ashamed to be unclothed together. There is not an inordinate desire for one another physically. Instead there is a desire that is perfectly in order. The husband and wife desire each other, but not in a way that is corrupt as, let's say, a person might be tempted with pornography. The husband and wife enjoy physical intimacy, but it is a pure enjoyment with no regret or shame.
The intimacy deepens the relationship rather than harming it, and shame never enters the picture. Just a thought.

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