Lie

I don't know if anyone is active or not.I always got so much encouragement from this website while reading the answers.If someone is active then please answer me.This question is about lying.I once when with my classmate(an opposite gender)we are going for a competition.I am having loose motions,so I went to Latrine.When I came back,she asked where did I go.I felt embarrased to say I went to latrine,so I told I went to wash my face.I lied.Many type of similar situations,I lied so as to keep myself not feel embaressed.Do I need to phonecall the girl and say that I lied and say her I went to Latrine?Is it required?Can I just confess to the Lord my lie?What will you do?

My advice, get alone with Jesus and ask Him. Repent of this, and all known sin, place your trust in the finished work of Jesus. His death, burial and resurrection, bearing your sin and your shame on the tree and rising in triumphant defeat of death to stand as your advocate before the Father. His blood cleanses from all sin, sealing the covenant of His grace and assuring your forgiveness.

He will tell you what practical steps to take.

I prayed to God but I don't feel like what to do.I need advice on these type of lies.So I wanted to know from Godly persons like you.Everyone is saying,Go and ask Lord.But I prayed many hours but I don't get what to do.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

Did you confess your sin to God? Then you accept by faith that you are forgiven because God is faithful to His word just as the scripture above says. You don't have to 'feel' forgiven. Don't go looking for a feeling about this. If you still feel guilty, it is coming from the devil and he is the accuser of the brethren. Ignore him.

-Daniel

Nav,

It sounds as if confessing your lie to this girl won't leave you alone, or perhaps, the Holy Spirit won't. Confess your lie, in humility and God will honor it. If you are unable to shake a thing, as it sounds you cannot shake the nagging feeling you may have to confess this lie, than confess the lie.

It may seem small and insignificant, but we never know God's purposes in these things. Perhaps your honesty and humility in this small thing will be used of the Lord to bring this girl to repentance and faith, or to a deeper walk with Jesus; or bring you to a revelation of self that can only be made known in this way, and through it, you will learn a deeper walk. Nothing is small when the Holy Spirit leads.

It seems you have your answer, you just might not like what it is, and are seeking men to justify you in not obeying. But I'll be the odd man out, and tell you to obey the Holy Spirit, humble yourself before God and men, and confess the sin that is besetting you.

Obey and trust Jesus.

The difficulty here is how far do you go?

She asked where you went. Why can you not say I went to the restroom?

If you washed your hands after you could have said you had to wash your hands.

You do not need to go into detail about what exactly you were doing. Would she really want to hear that? Certainly not. It would be crass and rude and gross to say exactly what you were doing.

Frankly it was none of her business what you were doing.

There are some things that are not polite to talk about to strangers or acquaintances. Bathroom specifics is one of them.

If you really did wash your hands after going to the bathroom then you did not tell a lie, in my opinion.

No Todd,

The difficulty here is obedience, not nitpicking what it looks like. Pharisees love to strain at gnats and choose how and when to obey God. Partial obedience is disobedience, as is obedience that takes any account of self into it.

Your post smacks of the question once posed to Jesus, "which commandment?", and all your advising is how best to lie.

His dilemma is simply telling someone he went to use the restroom, not the details (if you read the post).

Obedience to the Holy Spirit might not look like you think it should Todd, and honestly, how often have you rationalized away obedience in something you consider a trifle, and consequently missed the perfect will of God? If your advice to someone who obviously just needs to obey is how best to rationalize their disobedience, well, I don't know what to say.

To answer your question of "how far do you go?" the answer is simple; you go as far as the Holy Spirit wants you to, no matter what religious men and their rules do or say to rationalize it away.

There is absolutely no theology or discussion in this. The issue is obey, or not. The mere fact we are in a place where simple obedience can be reduced down to minute details of how, when, what is someones business, or anything else, brings us dangerously close to the very system that crucified Jesus.

So Nav,

You can debate, discuss, rationalize, strain at gnats (while swallowing camels by the way), pacify your conscience with all the reasons you can disobey and still 'technically' be obeying; but you will become a Pharisee.

Just ignore men and obey the Holy Spirit; confess the sin and move on with Jesus, most likely in new freedom and joy in the Holy Spirit.

I said he could have told her he went to the restroom. But even that detail is unnecessary if it is embarrassing.

Do you go into the gory details every time someone asks you a question?

"if it is embarrassing"

A disciple of Jesus should be dead to embarrassment, as this is a subtle, and accepted form of selfishness. I can say from experience that the Lord will orchestrate circumstances specifically designed for your embarrassment, things that others would deem insignificant and unnecessary. These are the obediences that ultimately make or break true discipleship, and decide whether or not Jesus, or self is actually Lord.

Embarrassment defined is "a feeling of self-consciousness, shame, or awkwardness". Two of these things are directly said in scripture that we are delivered from through the cross, and the third is something that stems from the other two. Freedom in Christ is freedom from these things.

But the issue here is much more clear cut, lying and honesty. If the Holy Spirit leads a man to confess a lie, embarrassing or not (and honestly even more so if it is embarrassing), than obedience is not an option. If we are subject to embarrassment, we are still harboring self love, because embarrassment is believing we are to important to give up our dignity, and deserve better.

Good grief. You are deliberately twisting the issue. Perhaps I should have used the word "gross” or "offensive”. You can tell the truth without grossing out the person you are talking to. We are talking about going to the bathroom for goodness sake.

See,here I got two different answers,Bro Truewitness gave one answer,he said guilty feeling comes from devil.I confessed my lies to the Lord.Is it unnecessary to confess every single lie to every person?If I go on doing so,my life will be full of confessing these lies.Did you confess all your lies,including the smallest lies to the persons you lied?Isn't it impossible to speak every thing with exact 100 percent truth?If someone asks whats the time,if I say it's 10:01 when it's 10:00 isn't it also a lie?I need to confess that lie also?How far I should go in confessing these lies?Isn't it enough to confess those lies which caused damage or harm or any type of loss to those persons?If those lies don't cause any loss or damage or harm,Isn't it enough to confess to Lord?Does God wants us to feel embarrased?Doesnt God understand our situation but force us to do to do something by which I feel embarrased?

Here the issue is not only about going to restroom.If I say multiple lies in my life before coming to christ,I need to clear all those lies by confessing to those persons?Isn't it an impossible task?Why do I need to do that?Isn't God blood enough to forgive me?Why don't God forgive me If I confess to him alone?Yes,if my lie has affected you in someway,I need to come to you and honestly confess it.If it didn't Why the need to confess?Please clarify

Why didn't Peter go and confess to the little girl he lied about not knowing Jesus?Why did he confess only to God?Why didn't God asked the adulterous woman to go and confess lies she told?As humans have the lying nature from birth,we might have said many lies.Even thought we many think we forgot the lies we told;we actually didn't.When we sit alone and start to think what lies we have said,we may get hundreds of lies.So we need to confess those hundreds of lies to the persons we lied?Isn't it a foolish thing to do?also I started thinking what lies I told in my life.Then I found out many lies.Out of these,this is one of the lies.I said it 6 years back when I'm in my highschool.now I'm doing my engineering.I noted down many lies I told.I confessed those lies which involved money.I payed them back.I confessed the lies by which I hurt them and asked for pardon.But confessing that I went for latrine,confessing the time is not 10:01 but 10:00 all these unnecessary?I am thinking that Satan is using this trick to lead me into unnecessary things and finally steal my time

Nav said:
"Here the issue is not only about going to restroom."

I discerned as much.

My original posts still stand. Obey, or not. You're not forced. The call to obedience and the cross is "if any man will", we have the option to turn around and leave.

Nav-

It is impossible to keep track of all the little untruths that are told by each of us, including ESchaible.

We do not always tell complete truths in order to spare feelings, or because it is no one’s business, etc. sometimes it is out of laziness but regardless every single Christian person tells what we call white lies. I am not saying that it is ok to do this but there are lies that are selfish or malicious and then there are mistruths that are told in polite society so as not to hurt people’s feelings.

In your original post, you said that you really had to use the bathroom because of an urgent bowel discomfort and left your friend briefly. When you came back she asked you where you were and you said you were washing your face instead of saying you had a bout of loose bowels.

If the Holy Spirit is truly convicting you to go tell that girl that you were really having an attack of diarrhea and did not really go to wash your face, by all means tell her. It will probably gross her out but go for it.

It’s sort of hard to believe we are even talking about this. 🤷”â™‚️

Nav: So what is the logical end? How many people have been involved in sins that you have committed? Have you failed to show love to anyone? Have you hurt others with your words? Have you lied to anyone else?

My point is this. If you were required to confess to every person your sin where it involved that person, where does that end?

If you have truly wronged another so that person has something to legitimately hold against you, something that breaks relationship, then you are commanded to leave your gift at the alter and be reconciled to your brother first. But that is not what you did here. As far as I can tell, this person has not been affected in any way by what you said. This person will probably not even remember the incident. And, if you are born again, you have been forgiven. Ask the Lord to help you to learn how to communicate in a way that you don't have to be dishonest.

I will say this though. I appreciate your heart of repentance.

Travis’s advice is good. If a lie has truly hurt or offended someone then you should make that right.

I find it grievous the decision rests not on obeying the Holy Spirit, but on man and their feelings.

Interesting where we find ourselves in this day and age, a place where the way men feel trumps the way God feels.

I wonder what our late brother Rees Howells would say to this thread? Or better yet, I wonder what the Holy Spirit, who led that brother into obediences that seemed absolutely insane to those around him, would say to this thread? (I think I can say with Paul, "I think I too have the Holy Spirit", so perhaps we do know)

God's perfect will abandoned for the good intentions of not offending men, or of avoiding embarrassment, or ignored because that still small voice could never lead someone to confess a sin that didn't hurt someone else (have we forgotten the offense it causes God?).

Sorry Todd.I mentioned that lie which is looking uncomfortable to discuss.i have said similar lies,alot.I should have mentioned about another lie I told.But my intention is to ask whether I need to confess those multiple lies,which are known aa white lies.If I go on confessing all these lies to my friends relatives,etc who are Hindus majority.They feel that christianity is a foolish religion.As they think I am acting foolishly.Eventually I will be the cause for them bot to come to christ.I got this advice from a senior pastor from cfc church(zac poonen).

If you are being led to confess all your white lies then do so. Appearing foolish is not the issue if you are being led. The bigger challenge is to not tell white lies which will be exceedingly difficult.