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Prosperity Message: Thoughts

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billy1980 Jan 10, 2024

"In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived." (2 Tim 3:12-13)

As I sit here tonight the prosperity message keeps popping up in my thoughts. Before I begin, most denominations have issues. Man-made traditions that separate Christ body on earth. All cannot be defined with the same broad stick so to speak. It would be a foolish thing for me to dare do! For I know who watches me day and night! Now I would much rather speak on things concerning our mutual faith in Christ. As I grow in Christ, I dislike such topics that divide. We do in love need to clarify error, but it must be done in a spirit of love, and humility. Like a doctor with a steady hand preforming surgery! or it is just futile and causes more harm than help, possibly killing the very one, we were seeking to save.

Here we go however, my thoughts on the prosperity message. Although I honestly see it as, yet another man-made tradition of which we are drowning within at this time, I see this one's roots dug into the world system. Now definition wise it is a belief system "that God rewards those who live faithful lives with material wealth" while on earth. It is an earthly gospel, bringing forth an earthly kingdom, with earthly rewards. Now there are precious twice born ones in its clutches. That truly love our Lord, and He loves them; however, the message it brings forth concerning prosperity I cannot inwardly agree with. If you think about what the world desires, it fits right into alignment with the very spirit of this world. I do believe God does bring some twice born's into positions of wealth, but I do not see it as the norm, but exceptions to His norm.

Truthfully, the new covenant brought about through Christ death and resurrection reveals a completely different message then this earthly one that has been spread across the world, due to its material appeal! Verses the true message that brings forth persecution, suffering, and alienation within the world, that we are within but not a part of. Christ does promise His faithful disciple's riches within the new earth and heaven to come, but persecution, testing's, trials and various sufferings while were down here on this old sin filled earth. Christ message is a spiritual message, concerning His spiritual kingdom, and only those transformed spiritualty through Him will be a part of it. However, if such a prosperity message was within the mind of Christ, the apostles would not have suffered, nor been killed as martyrs for their faith in Christ Jesus! Instead for their total commitment to Christ they would have become kings on the earth enjoying all life's wonderful splendor's this fallen world had to offer. For who would dare question their faith in Christ?

Here is the report concerning what happened to each of the 13 apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thankfully they were looking towards an eternal spiritual kingdom instead of an earthly one. As Foxes Book of Martyrs describes it. James the Great was beheaded. (Acts 12:2) Phillip "was scourged, thrown into prison, and afterwards crucified." Matthew was "slain with a halberd." James the Less was beat and stoned…and finally had his brains dashed out with a fuller’s club." Matthias was "stoned at Jerusalem and then beheaded." Andrew was "crucified on a cross." Mark "was dragged to pieces by the people of Alexandria." Peter was crucified upside down. Paul's head was chopped off. Jude was crucified. Bartholomew was cruelly beaten and then crucified. Thomas was martyred by being thrust through with a spear. Luke was hanged on an olive tree. Simon was crucified. John "was cast into a cauldron of boiling oil. He escaped by miracle, without injury. Domitian afterwards banished him to the Isle of Patmos, where he wrote the Book of Revelation."

"Therefore, since we also have such a great cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let’s rid ourselves of every obstacle and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let’s run with endurance the race that is set before us…" (Heb 12:1)

Brethren let us "not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for [yourself] treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (Matt 6:19-21)

As I finish this, the Holy Spirit is impressing on my heart a message. We must be careful not to bash brothers and sisters sharing in our mutual faith in Christ Jesus! They are part of Christ bride and are worth an unpriced price to our Lord, just like we are. Now I have a sadness coming over me. He loves all of us who are in Him, and He expects us to love each other regardless of our differences in Him.

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drifter Jan 10, 2024

Thank you for your thoughts Billy. I agree, there are brothers and sisters caught up in this.

There are so many scriptures that fly in the face of the prosperity message, it is difficult to understand how people get tangled in this demonic web of lies. But just like any cult, the leaders insulate their followers from critically examining their doctrine with fear, intimidation, and threats.

Every time I try to share a critique or resource about how the prosperity message started, or the unscriptural practices and teachings contained therein, I have been threatened (usually with the ever popular "touch not the Lord's anointed"), called the "accuser of the brethren" (they call me Satan!), separated from other professing believers, sometimes even looked on as unsaved. People generally don't listen. I even had one friend, who I asked to listen to a ten minute excerpt by David Wilkerson about the prosperity gospel, rip the CD out of the CD player and say "I don't want to listen to that garbage!" This man was a family friend and led a Bible study I went to for some time. I listened to his messages about the prosperity gospel (before I had a clear understanding of scripture) for many hours; I read the books he gave me, listened to guys like Jesse Duplantis and Benny Hinn, among others. But he wouldn't even give me ten minutes. In retrospect, he reminded me of king Jehoiakim destroying Jeremiah's scroll.

I believe the matter is so serious as to warrant the risk of hurt feelings and misunderstanding. People's souls are at stake.

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billy1980 Jan 10, 2024

"I believe the matter is so serious as to warrant the risk of hurt feelings and misunderstanding. People's souls are at stake."

"The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”

All we can do brother is stay in prayer for them till the Holy Spirit inwardly leads us to do something else concerning the situation. As we both grow in staying in step with Him, we will see more and more fruit displayed that will affect those around us. Something I was led to start doing perhaps 7 months ago was when I pray for people. Pray for what our Heavenly Father sees they need prayer concerning. Then I pray for those things He sees they need in Jesus's name! This really changed the scope of my prayer life for others. I wish He had taught it to me 20 years ago ;( I do understand your burden! Let us be in prayer for them together. Personally, I've been in prayer concerning a Coven I was run into! Perhaps we could pray concerning each other's burdens brother? I'll start tonight.

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