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The feast of tabernacle's part 2. Sermon transcript

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brothagary Feb 7, 2024

You hear people talk about the different stages of experience, Christian experience when they talk about the temple itself the outer court and the inner court, and the holy of holies they divide that up into three stages but you could even say when you're not even in the temple before you can get to the temple you're on the outside, you know before you convert, then you move to the outer Court but one thing that recognized and is experienced when you get to the end stages there's a holiness and a purification that happens it takes away the old man.

You have to be completely purified yes so that's that's the outcome That is how i understand these theses truths that God's been speaking to his church he is speaking in different ways.

The manifest sons of God from how I understand it I'm not an expert on historical doctrine but I do know people that that do teach this sort of teaching and you know I'm not in agreement with everything that some of these teachers teach but the base idea and base concept that they promoting it's the same thing the manifest sons of God that the whole of creation groens in birth pains until the sons of God are manifest and this is what happens, this is what happens when we reach this stage we move through the feast of trumpets to the day of the atonement and there's an out pouring of the holy spirit fire, I've been saying this in my other videos this is going to be a Baptism a corporate baptism of Fire upon the church and this corporate baptism is going to cleanse and burn out and transform the church there is going to be suffering involved because that works in a way of purifying as well God purifies that way and yeah and then the sons of God are going to be manifest that's going to be a time where Paul said the five-fold ministry was given to the perfecting of the church, the church reaches full stature of Christ and then there would be no need for a five ministry because the church would be operating in the fullness of Christ able to build itself up in love it says that every joint supplies every joint every person within the body starts to supply and build each other up and the five ministry would have reached its crescendo and that's not saying there won't be five fold ministry but Paul said that ministers are given for that purpose to build the church up to the perfect man to the matures stature of the fullnes of christ and we haven't reached that state but we coming into that time now where that's what's going to happen and so it is an amazing time to live and I choose not to have a pessimistic view on what's happening because what I believe is there's going to be, there's gonna actually be the kingdom of God manifesting, the manifest sons of God , well maybe I shouldn't use that term because it's not something that I've been personally given but that's what they talk about as well.

It's in the day of that time we're going to reach, the church is going to reach its perfect stature and in doing so it's going to also be the light of the world like Jesus said there's gonna be a unified bride a unified body of Christ and we are going to be the lights of the world not just the lights in the church we're not going to be the lights only in the church. The light is going to go into the world and will remain in the world we're going to be the salt of the Earth in both ways we're going to be able to preserve the earth there is going to be a great manifesting on the kingdom of God in this last day and age in preparation for the coming of the Lord he said sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool the holy spirit through the father, or the father through the holy spirit is going to make the enemies through the church a footstool, the father through the spirit via the church is going to make the enemies of Christ the foots stool for Christ and is body,so he said sit at my right hand until that happens of the increase of his government it should be no end.

So God's government is increasing and we've seen, we've seen, we've had a taste of great awakenings and great revivals and we've seen what it can do we've seen it , that's our history in the West of coming out of the Dark ages being in the dark ages for 1500 years or so to speak whatever that exactly is coming out of the Dark ages when the holy spirit is poured out and that affected cultures society brought us into even though we still have trouble in the world it brought us out of the Dark ages into a place of blessing that we never experience before it effected governments affected laws if the holy spirit didn't get poured out we would have been in the Dark ages till now.

But we've seen what revival can do, America was a good example of what an Awakening can do to change things to bring in good laws and allow people to prosper, The freedom that America experienced was a result of revival great revival and so we've got a great awakening and revival that's coming and yeah it's gonna Great, we just got a taste of it in the first and second Great Awakenings if you haven't read about those things look it up on Google and see where we came from, in steps Martin Luther well it wasn't just him but that was just a word of God, first came out the word and then came the spirit through like John Wesley, George Whitfield,and Jonathan Edwards.

We're moving into that stage now, the fulfillments, it's going to be a fulfillment of the Day of Pentecost so to speak, the spirit is going to be poured out and the prophecy of Joel will be fulfilled completely because when Peter spoke about the prophecy of Joel and he said this is that which is spoken by the prophet Joel and it shall come to pass in the last days says God, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and my children will prophesy my young men she'll see visions and my old men will dream dreams, upon my men's servants and upon my maid servants I will pour out my spirit in those days and they shall prophesy and I will show them wonders in the heavens above and signs in the earth beneath blood fire and vapor of smoke the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the Great and the notable day of the Lord shall come and as shall come to pass at all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

You see it talks about the Great and the notable day of the Lord okay and that 2000 years ago the great and the notable day of the Lord hadn't come at all and it is a matter of fact the prophecy itself said that the children of Israel that were scattered all around the world will be brought back into their own land and that was meant to happen at the time of the fulfillment of joel and what actually happened at that time was scattering not long after Peter quoted Joel on the day of Pentecost.

And we don't see that that's not part of the prophecy fulfilled in the first century, the prophecy says whom I did scatter I would bring back in for the day of the lord and for the judgment upon the upon wicked nations and upon wicked people, the valley of decision the battle of the Armageddon, that's all part of that prophecy the prophecy of Joel so we have to remember we're now coming into the fulfillment of that, and what happens when we move into the holy place and feast of the Tabernacles, in that day in that time it is going to be a flipping around of the kingdom, this is the kingdom age coming and there's going to be a change and in that, it's gonna be like a birthing a lot of people think it's just going to happen in one day, but it's a birthing that will take place.

Look we're just gonna have to admit all the apostles thought it was all going to happen in their lifetime they did they thought it was all gonna happen in their lifetime, you see we only knowing part and we only prophesy in part we don't get giving everything and sometimes we get prophecy and then we try to explain what we think that prophecy means and we often times we miss you know it's not that we're false teachers and it's not that the apostles were false teachers because they said Christ is coming now we're in the last hour it's gonna happen but 2000 years later still hasn't happened and as a matter of fact every generation since the apostles if you really want to look at history every single generation since the apostles were predicting Jesus Christ return in their lifetime and they were wrong and so we we get prophecy but we find that we interpret wrong so we are coming into the fulfillment of Joel the flipping over the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our lord and of his christ.

Yeah that's not saying , look I don't know how it all pans out, that's not saying every single kingdom will be flipped,but nations are going to be flipped and like we've seen nations flipp in the past they go from Darkness to light ,you know every nation was under the Dark ages under the bondage , I don't like to say it but under the bondage of the papacy and the Catholic church basically controlled the world and all the kings , the authority of the pope ruled with a rod of blood and we know through history that there was a lot of sinful activity that happened we were under the darkest religious deception, deep darkness did cover the earth but the glory of the Lord has risen to an extent and it's going to rise and rise until it's fullness comes that's what we've got coming , that's what we expecting that's what God has spoken through the prophecies that he's given me, I didn't copy them from anyone else , I don't get many and I don't want many because the ones that I get mean a lot to me as there is enough them to pray through and to chew on.

Biblically speaking this more or less lines up with historical Post millennialism.

But this is what he's revealing to other people as well yeah so what I want to talk about, I just want to talk about that prophecy, did I even name this one I don't think that I named it, no it's one I didn't give a name.

I was given it on the 14th of December 2021 there one morning, and so this is how prophecy comes, sometimes you'll be talking to someone or writing a message to someone having a conversation and you'll be exhorting or encouraging them and then all of a sudden you'll go from an exhortation to prophesy, it just flips and you prophesy, and when I say prophecy I mean then you flip from an exhortation or whatever a natural exhortation that's coming from your heart, you're flipping from that to a Thus says the Lord and you're not putting any of those words in there coming straight from the spirit and you get into that Zone and you just flow in that Zone until it's all over then you go okay I'll just receive something and this is not me I don't come up with this stuff.

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KervinM Feb 9, 2024

Does this prophesy requires any input (continued intercession, etc) from Christians or it should come to pass whether they lift a finger or not, in your understanding, brothagary?

PS: Yes we are told not to despise prophesy... but to test all things.

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brothagary Feb 9, 2024

Definitely much intersession.

Intersession for this has been taking place since at least the first great Awakening.

Even the first outpouring on the feast of Pentecost required intersession.

God has never moved with his spirit without it , but it is always the spirit of prayer and supplication that inspires the prayers, tears and groanings, and tongues LOL

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KervinM Feb 9, 2024

Noted brother. Since this Spirit comes from God, who's fault is it when there is no prevailing with God for awakening at a given time? Ravehill has seemingly implied that the church is always responsible for its contemporary generation of sinners.

But it hard to blame the church when at the same time we must embrace the fact that events are unfolding in accordance to an allegory. It then nolonger seem like free will of man, the trend of which should be spontaneous.

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brothagary Feb 10, 2024

Jesus said himself without me you can do nothing.

We always need to yield ourselves via our free will to accomplish anything weather it is the new birth regeneration, , baptism in the spirit, obedience to overcome temptation and the flesh, or intersession.

It feels like you're playing the devil's advocate so to speak.

It's never God's fault when a believer or the church fails to do the will of God.

But the deceiver and his minions will tempt Christians to justify failure and sin and blame God, and even over-emphasize the sovereignty of God, over man's free will and responsibility to submit to God's graces.

All the events throughout history including Christ's coming and atonement unfold according to prophecy whether allegory or not.

He declares that those things that are not and have not taken place as tho they have.

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brothagary Feb 10, 2024

19 One of you will say to me, "Then why does God still find fault? For who can resist His will?”

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KervinM Feb 10, 2024

Sorry I did not mean it is God's fault. I believe it is man's fault (not fully, if at all, yielding to God's invite to being a worthy vessel). I do not know if other brethren understand my concern regarding the shared prophesy. It just seem to me to suggest a predefined (allegory) route to be followed.. Which can then tempt one to believe that it is something that should happen whether anyone likes it or not.

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brothagary Feb 10, 2024

Know don't be sorry I missed your angle.

For me, I don't really believe a prophecy or revelation (prophetic revelation) received through the Gift of prophecy will really reveal anything that's not already in the scripture.

So in other words it will complement and make clearer prophecies and doctrines and eschatology that is already in the bible but may not be clear.

Many prophecies in scripture will happen whether we like it or not, but God will inspire and use intercessors in (many cases) to come into (agreeing prayer) to bring them to pass.

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brothagary Feb 10, 2024

I still haven't shared the actual prophecy yet, but will in the next part 3

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KervinM Feb 10, 2024

Maybe I am just shallow about things. I recall a prophet who came and told about famine coming to Jerusalem. Again the one who told about Paul's arrest in Jerusalem (also confirmed by the daughter-prophetes of Philip). I thought these were very simplistic and are the kind I was on a lookout for from NT prophets. But yes I shall continue to assess (including the part 3 referred to) what you present to see if my position gets invalidated. Like on part 2 you mentioned that the prophets sometimes do not get the prophesy accurately but I thought this was questionable. I thought God ensures the message is accurately passed over when he reveals to his prophetes?

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brothagary Feb 10, 2024

ROM 12 6 We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If one’s gift is prophecy, let him use it in proportion to his faith;

Brother, I think the Apostle Paul, taught even immature Christians to prophesy, and because the proportion of their faith may be weak and underdeveloped and small like mustard seed and some people are still carnal and on only milk like the church at Corinth, the probability of wrong prophecy and even false prophecy would quite high.

Look the message and doctrine spoken by the apostle Peter was flat-out false teaching, and apostolic gifting is meant to be above prophetic gifting.

I don't believe that any Christians are speaking infallible teachings or prophecies, but we are subject to fallibility, only the written recorded word of God is always 100 percent correct.

Prophetic gifting is in the same category as the teaching gift and the evangelist preaching gift.

We develop it as we grow in grace and understanding and as Christ is formed within us and we overcome immaturity and the carnal nature our ability to teach and preach and prophecy becomes purer, and the mind of Christ begins to flow with fewer hindrances, and our ability to express the will of the spirit increases.

Brother I'm not trying to invalidate your position by anything that is presented here.

I think the reason there are so many competing theologies among the great men of God in the past and today is evidence that we only know in part and prophecy in part and we see through a glass darkly as the apostle Paul says.

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KervinM Feb 12, 2024

Brathagary, let me chew on what you've presented and then hopefully comment in due course. Oh, please kindly elaborate further, when you can, on what exactly you meant by Peter's false teaching - so we be on the same page there as well.

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brothagary Feb 13, 2024

Paul rebuked Peter for hypocrisy and teaching the Gentiles to become as Jews, many other even Barnabas was also in this ditch, men came from James and tried to deceive Gentile Christians with the same teaching of legalism, the letter to Galatians deals with pauls view and teaching about this and also the seriousness of that blatant heresy.

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brothagary Feb 13, 2024

My point is if the apostles can miss it by that much, we should have grace a restorative mindset for modern prophets and especially those who are growing in their faith and practice of the prophetic and teaching gifts.

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KervinM Feb 13, 2024

Ok I am familiar with that incident. I should comment in details soon hopefully.

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brendaM Feb 13, 2024

//Look we're just gonna have to admit all the apostles thought it was all going to happen in their lifetime they did they thought it was all gonna happen in their lifetime, you see we only knowing part and we only prophesy in part we don't get giving everything and sometimes we get prophecy and then we try to explain what we think that prophecy means and we often times we miss you know it's not that we're false teachers and it's not that the apostles were false teachers because they said Christ is coming now we're in the last hour it's gonna happen but 2000 years later still hasn't happened and as a matter of fact every generation since the apostles if you really want to look at history every single generation since the apostles were predicting Jesus Christ return in their lifetime and they were wrong and so we we get prophecy but we find that we interpret wrong so we are coming into the fulfillment of Joel the flipping over the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our lord and of his christ.//

This is the worst attack on the Holy Bible I have seen, coming from evangelicalism. The Apostles did know what they were saying. Christ (capital this time note) did come again to the disciples when He breathed the Holy Spirit on them and they were enabled to wait on the baptism of the Spirit at Pentecost which put them into full communion with Christ after being a follower for three years.

John in Revelation wrote:

"I stand at he door and knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him and will sup with him and he with Me Rev:3,20."

"The time is at hand" Rev 1:3.

And indeed therein began the entire sanctification of the saints. Any reading of the holy ones' unattested witness shows it for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see. It carried on with the few henceforth to the west although many only reached the 'breathing on' and mistook it for the finished work and brought dishonour to the church but the Lord has always had a witness to speak out.

All Satan had to do was destroy the witness of scripture - did God say?

The scripture does not say the church will be victorious before the return of Christ. It says the anti-Christ will reign.

Things are much worse than I thought and the enemy is in the sacred place


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ESchaible Feb 13, 2024

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2 Peter 3:3-8)

Ironic it's Peter that says this...

"I told you beforehand." (Jesus)


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rbanks Feb 13, 2024

Just coming on here and seeing the last few posts.

Evan and Brenda on your last 2 posts…truth…

The Bible does say we know in part and prophesy in part…

And Paul stated clearly that there is no other gospel and there is nothing to be added…because the foundation of Jesus has been laid by the Original Apostles.

There is no extra biblical doctrine…the original Apostles received the full revelation from the Lord Jesus Christ…

We must not trust any so called modern day prophet that claims to know more than the original Apostles in the New Testament.

We must take heed that we don’t be deceived!

Anybody criticizing the original Apostles and claiming to know more than them…I immediately turn them off…

Blessings and love,
rbanks

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brothagary Feb 13, 2024

Amen rbanks fully agree nothing added nothing taken away anyone who does this is under a curse . Amen

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