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freewill Aug 17, 2005

We moved to the twin cities area and are seeking out a church without all the entertainment, but actually has a preacher you can stand with. I mean a man of prayer. Preach instead of teach. In home fellowship with people that are seeking the same is what we have now and are holding each other accountable through this. Is the church in such a sad state as these preachers of old speak of or as recent as the sermon by david wikerson A Call to Anguish?

sermonindex Aug 17, 2005

Hi freewill,I don't know any up there, but I thought maybe this thread may speak to your situation somehow. (?)https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6634&forum=35&9To your last question, I'd have to say yes.God Bless your search for fellowship.Annie

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dann Aug 17, 2005

Isn't John Piper's church in the twin cities(http://www.bbcmpls.org/)?

sermonindex Aug 17, 2005

Hi freewill,I have heard good things about Strait Gate in Minneapolis. I have never been to this church but I really admire and appreciate Roger Magnuson who is the pastor and a wonderful Christian leader. He stands up for what is right. If their church is not what you are looking for they might be able to help you find one.I would recommend checking out their website:http://www.straitgate.org/index.phpThey are also a strongly evangelistic church.It is very hard to find a church that meets the description you have described. But they do exist! I will be praying that the Lord will direct you to where He wants you.~Roniya

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Nellie Aug 17, 2005

Hi freewill,I hope you find a good Church.If you do, please share.God Bless you.In His Service,Nellie :-)

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ccchhhrrriiisss Aug 17, 2005

Hello Freewill...!I attended an engineering conference in the twin cities a couple of years ago. I was going to be there for a week, so I looked up the churches in the phonebook in my hotel room. Since I didn't know my way around, I couldn't find one nearby. However, I met a young man at the conference who recommended a nice church. I attended twice (a Sunday morning service and one of their prayer meetings) and had a wonderful time! It was called "Columbia Heights Assembly of God." I also attended a Wednesday evening service at a small, bilingual church (that was closer to the hotel). I don't remember the name, but it was wonderful!I know this is not much, but I hope it helps. I will be praying for your search -- that God places you exactly where you belong! :-)

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Kadmiel Aug 17, 2005

With so much intertainment, programs, functions, etc. I've wondered at times instead of finding a home Church ; Perhaps i should consider Church at home. I have thought of David Wilkerson's Home Church Series. It's so sad that the Church i have been attending for 3 years or more now that you get the uaual stuff like , good to see you and a hand shake and thats about it. Where's the brokenness and compassion to reach out for others not only in the world but those who attend that particular church. In the years i've been going to this pentecostal church (use to be Assembly of God) no one and i mean no one has ever contacted me by phone or come by , nothing. This is so sad. It's not like they don't know of me. My name, address and telephone # is on my tithing envelope. I've also approached many so its not like i'm not being friendly or a brother in christ. Just seems everybody is in thier own little click if you will.The Church i attended for most of my life: First Assembly of God, has gone so far out in left field that it broke my heart to leave but had to. It's not my church now as i've stated that i left a few years ago to this new church, but First Assembly of God that i went to for most of my life. The Preacher at my old church from years ago, litterally teach's or preaches using his lap top computer with powerpoint. Un-believable. And that church is extremely program oriented. I just get so tired of the way church is today. There's such a quenching of the Holy Spirit that it sickens me. I would love to see man get out of the way and let the Holy Spirit move and to see much prayer instead of programs.So i've really been considering having church at home by myself with the video series of David Wilkerson home series that he offers and paying my tithes to missions that would be used abroad and state side as well and support sermon index because i'm fed here as well.Just thinking out loud,Kadmiel

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Kadmiel Aug 17, 2005

I would also add that churchs today run on and by the clock and not the spirit. Also at my church they say the partake of "communion" once a year. I've never seen it. I must not have been thier that night. I asked one of the deacons why once a year and if so why not on easter perhaps. His response was most shocking. He said: Theres to many people. What on earth does that have to do with anything. So if i go with home church with David Wilkerson's series that are Video. I'd also partake of communion like i do now every 3 weeks and much prayer and worship and praiseing God. Not telling anyone what they should do just talking of myself. Love my family on sermonindex,Kadmiel :-)

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Christisking Aug 17, 2005

Could someone please tell me where to find Dave Wilkerson's home church video's? is it on his web site?Thank you

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KingJimmy Aug 17, 2005

So i've really been considering having church at home by myself...There is nothing Biblical about having church at home by one's self. Such is simply listening to a sermon. Here is a suggestion. If you can't find a church where you can have geniune fellowship at for whatever reason, the answer is not to resign yourself to being a Christian hermit. When the early church found itself because of persecution, in areas where no Christians save themselves were, they went ahead and immediately reproduced themselves. If you simply cannot find fellowship for whatever reason, go convert some heathen and start a church. Also, there is nothing wrong if a preacher uses a laptop and powerpoint. It's simply a modern version of having some notes that one scratched out before hand, and using a chalk board or some other thing to write on. If Jesus had walked among us today, instead of writing in the dirt to a crowd attempting to stone a woman caught in adultery, He very well might have simply typed something out on a powerpoint slide. Either way, the same thing is accomplished. It's really no different than listening to Dave Wilkerson on your computer.

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Kadmiel Aug 17, 2005

To my shock i didn't see it either since they've updated thier website so i called thier long distance phone # and got no one that was available so i e-mailed them. As soon as i hear from them i'll pass it on to you. :-)Kadmiel

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Kadmiel Aug 17, 2005

First of all i am a hermit already due to my illness of "severe chronic depression". It's my disabliity. If i'm alone in church then being alone at home having church, i see no difference. I do believe one should be in church and i'm not advocating otherwise. I'm speaking only for myself and my experience. If it turns out that by witnessing and saving the lost that church is started in my home then thats awesome.Also, there is nothing wrong if a preacher uses a laptop and powerpoint.I whole heartly disagree with you on that point. I even took the liberty to e-mail and talk on the phone with pastor carter conlon and david wilkerson and they seem to agree with me that its very odd and strange that a preacher would use a computer to preach or teach with insead of the Bible itself. Theres just to much of the world in the church.Blessings,Kadmiel

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freewill Aug 17, 2005

I've been to john pipers church. It is good but we have a 3 year old that i do not want indoctrinated in to T.U.L.I.P. Which i see really being pushed in the calvinistic churches such as his.

sermonindex Aug 17, 2005

There is nothing Biblical about having church at home by one's self. Such is simply listening to a sermon.Please define "assembling" here. O.K., it means "Gathering"."Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."In this age of Computers/emails/forums, and telephones, if someone is "unable" to get out or lives in an area where there is no good Fellowships ... are you trying to tell me, that unless they "physically" GATHER, that they are not obeying Heb 10:25 ?I'll rephrase the quoted statement ...1-There is Nothing Biblical about the terminology "having Church".2-There is Nothing Biblical that says that you cannot "Fellowship" at Home.3-There is Nothing Biblical that says, that a FORUM or phone conferences, with like minded believers cannot be THAT "Gathering together" in HIS Name.4-There is Nothing Biblical that says, that a "True Gathering of the Saints" MUST have a "man" over them, or Pastor, over each "gathering".If I "gather" with a group of others on Tuesday afternoon, and we are "gathered in HIS Name", we are indeed fulfilling Heb.10:25Must it also be Sundays, in some people's book ?Wesley says about Heb.10:25 ~ Not forsaking the assembling ourselves - In public or private worship. As the manner of some is - Either through fear of persecution, or from a vain imagination that they were above external ordinances. But exhorting one another - To faith, love, and good works. And so much the more, as ye see the day approaching - The great day is ever in your eye. When the intent of the person who posted the first post 'asked', it certainly was not because he didn't have a physical group to fellowship because of "Either through fear of persecution, or from a vain imagination that they were above external ordinances".If that were the case, he would have never started this thread in the first place, asking us for help.And knowing more "disabled people" then you know "Healthy people", I would not put "Fellowship" in such a limited/small box.I am in a Network of Disabled people, most are former Missionaries and Pastors and Pastors wives, etc. and NONE are well enough to get out to what some of you folks call "Church".'WE' ARE THE CHURCH. And if a sister who truly loves the Lord calls me and we glorify HIM for an hour or 2, "Where '2' or more are gathered together in MY Name, there am I in the midst of them"With all due respect for other's opinions, I see our definition of "Church" as coming around hundreds of years After the First Church and is so "unrecognizable" from what I read in Acts.Anyone who cannot find physical fellowship or is disabled, ARE gathering together with the Saints, if they are coming to a Christian Forum, etc. and listening to the Audio parts of this site and then posting here of what they're gleaning.Thank God for the Computer age, that has made this possible for people in that predicament.Unlike, when the settlers in the prairie's of the old West, had NO fellowship at all.Sorry to have vented here ... but I guess this is a tender point with me.I just see the definitions of "Church" and what True "Gathering together in HIS Name" is, to have become so unrecognizable, from that of the first Church.Wesley again ~ "But exhorting one another - To faith, love, and good works. And so much the more, as ye see the day approaching - The great day is ever in your eye. "

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