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sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

Yea, as most of you know, i've 'taken' away my tv and my computer. Well, there still access to my online computer (not cancelled yet.for some reason)..and a tv in the living room.For the first few days i was like 'wow this is good, i can actually think'.Now (about a week later) im going back to the tv and online. Why? I just cant find anything to do with my time.Now, that sounds very hypocritical on my part because i have a BIBLE..lol and a huge shelf of books each are full of their own wisdom. But like i 'dont wanna read them'. I'm not in the mood to... This all has become like seriously fustrating because i cant find anything to do with my free time (which i shouldnt have any).I used to hate reading, then i liked it, now i just 'dont wanna'. The 'free' time that i have during the week days are from around 11 am-4pm. Many of my friends have school. And i kinda lead a ministry(i dont feel like doing that either).I dont know really, i guess im being doopted by a demon or something but like i dont really wanna do anything.I was like just last sunday HYPED UP, and now im like 'eh, i dont wanna'. Any advice?? I'm just kinda like in a 'blah' state.

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

The 'free' time that i have during the week days are from around 11 am-4pm. Many of my friends have school. And i kinda lead a ministry(i dont feel like doing that either).Brother if the Lord has you in ministry I would go and lock yourself in the room and when the flesh wants to rise up deny it and spend time with the Lord. Perhaps even fasting would be good to break this "rut" you are in brother.I am not a fan of hard core music but someone had me listen to this today and I think the lyrics apply to your situation brother:you've got to take him outcrush his head a violent action justifiedstand your ground hold your groundwatch your back he'll returnforgetting that he has diedI've got to put away completely the old man i used to beso now i must kill him dailyso he can't take control of meBrother your 'old man' wants to take control of you, to be spiritually minded is not a game. Tozer said life is either a playground or a battlefield. Which are you treating it as? the obvious answer is we are in violent oposition with the world, flesh and the devil. Brother your flesh needs to be crucified daily.. pray till you have a breakthrough.

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

IDK, lol..(no so funny..)But like, i used to fast and those were great times. Now, like i dont see anything happen if i fast. Cause the last two times i did it, nothing really aided to my walk. Nothing strengthen, but instead weakened. ...I fasted 4 times, the first 2 were wonderful, the last two sucked. The first one was for 10 days (Only water), second 7 days (only water), third 5 days (light amounts of food, mostly veggies), fourth 2 days (only water).Do i really need to push myself to the limits like i did the first times?I really am in a rut, and like thanks for at least SEEING the problem for what it is.

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

If you can, be practical - think through new sermons and makes notes for future use. Get some exercise. Organise everything you'll need for school. Think ahead to when you'll be so busy you don't have time to do things you need - like relaxing :-P - and pray to the Lord to make this lull productive.Also, ask Him to show you if there's something you should be doing. Oswald Chambers says, the moment we feel dis-inclined to deal with anything hindering or clouding our relationship with God, we should STOP EVERYTHING and get it put right with Him, as a priority. Think of it as an exercise in being a disciplined soldier. You might enjoy reading 'My Utmost for His Highest'....? Or, Pilgrim's Progress?

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

I can't add to what Greg has said, because his answer was perfect, but with your second post, it reminds me of what one Classic Author had written, and I'll try to relay it, as best as I can.The Lord was the One Who wanted that "deeper walk" with you, that caused you to respond, by pulling plugs.I don't see the need to pull the plug on the ISP, because I'd be downloading as many good sermons as you can now, JUST in case, there should ever come a time, for any unknown reason, that we can't get this good stuff ....but secondly ... what this Author of Old had said, had helped me greatly through 'things' .He said, When The Lord wants to take us "deeper", He'll take the 'feelings' away ... or as you call them, the "wannas" also.Because to walk "by faith", is what He's really wanting out of us, and not by any 'feelings'.That's a tough hurdle to get over, but once you 'break through', you'll be stronger for it and be able to deal with stronger attacks, etc. without waiting for the 'feelings or wannas', etc.A 100% FAITH WALK, is what He's after and putting us through these different type "seasons" for that purpose.You're in our prayers. Don't despair or give up.Follow Greg's advice and just pull the plug on that T.V. ;-) .By HIS Grace Only.Annie

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

I've heard of both of those books you referred to, but have neither of them.Hmm, well time to do some homework i guess ill be looking for some more help. Even though both were good so far.

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Compton Aug 31, 2005

I just cant find anything to do with my time...Any advice??I've got some chores that could help fill your day! Just stop on by! ;-) MC

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letsgetbusy Aug 31, 2005

Brother Yesh,I agree that the TV should go, not so sure about the computer. The internet is at your disposal, TV programming is pretty biased to the world (okay completely biased). There may be some that have read my posts about this, so I hope I am not driving it in the ground, and I hope, as Ravenhill says, that I don't stir up more rattlesnakes than we can kill with this post.God came upon me with His Spirit in a incredible way, just like you hear about it old revivals. This is my experience, so take it with a grain of salt if you wish, but do trust what the Word says about it (filled with the Spirit, baptism of the Holy Ghost, coming of the Comforter, promise of the Father, etc).I believe that He will pour out His Spirit upon you, when you come to the place where you can honestly divorce yourself from the world, completely. To carry your cross out of the city, you can't take anything else, and when those nails go through your hands and feet, you have given up all rights to do with your body what you please. Anyone disagree? Read the Book:1 Cor 15:31b "I die daily"Gal 2:20a "I am crucified with Christ"I personally told God that I was tired of pretending to be spiritual, tired of pretense in my walk with Him, that I needed discipline, that I am unclean and undone, that I wanted less me and more Him, that He could kill me, or have me tortured, or burned, but I would serve Him, that I didn't want to look back because the world has nothing of true value.I wrestled with Him, and He blessed me. It wasn't fun, I wouldn't even call it cool. It gave me a rekindled fear of God's ability, and how holy and majestic He is. It was purifying. Now the deal is that I have somewhat of a new struggle, in that the the things of the world are one step grimmer. I don't really want to do anything that is not involving Him. So as a result, I feel even more alienated to people.Please, no one get me wrong. I still sin, I still struggle with the flesh, but I am different. I don't know all the details because the experience is so new. But Yesh, God will get absolutely serious with you, if you are absolutely serious about Him.I really had to respond as that blah period was a tremendous hurdle in my life for a long time. To be honest, I don't feel like a conqueror, I feel that I need to be praying, reading His Word, studying about Him, witnessing, building saints, or sharpening my axe all the time. I feel more inferiour than I did before, and less worthy of anything from Him. I'm nothing more than a cup which I desired to have His Spirit poured into.I had for years thought that my soulwinning (what little I do) and leadership made God smile at my life, when I later realized I was just offering up my good works like Cain, instead of my own broken body on the altar. God never sent fire on a fruit, he wants our flesh, he wants me, he wants you.I hope no one takes these statements wrongly, I just want Yesh to know that there is something to be sought in his situation right now. No glory to me, all glory to Him. Hope this helps you, brother."And there came a fire out from before the LORD, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces."

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npautsky Aug 31, 2005

Hello YeshuaIsMyGod,How can you use such vile language? Are there actually people who profess Christ that consider this type of language acceptable/tolerable? Does a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? God's grace is here for you today to repent of this horrible thing.

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

I do notice that the way you are expressing yourself in writing in these posts do reflect your backslidden state or "rut". Allow the Lord to bring you out of this brother. You HAVE the Spirit of God in you!!!! think on these things, meditate, chew on them.Repentance might be something that is necessary, as soon as we stop running the race of faith we are backslidden.I highly recommend the book: "The Heavenly Footman" by John Bunyan.

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saved_matt Aug 31, 2005

Any advice?? listen to this:What Is Our Fuel: Feeling Or Faith?

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philologos Aug 31, 2005

Here's some heavenly, down-to-earth, counsel from Oswald Chambers..."In your patience possess ye your souls." Luke 21:19When a man is born again, there is not the same robustness in his thinking or reasoning for a time as formerly. We have to make an expression of the new life, to form the mind of Christ. "Acquire your soul with patience." Many of us prefer to stay at the threshold of the Christian life instead of going on to construct a soul in accordance with the new life God has put within. We fail because we are ignorant of the way we are made, we put things down to the devil instead of our own undisciplined natures. Think what we can be when we are roused!There are certain things we must not pray about - moods, for instance. Moods never go by praying, moods go by kicking. A mood nearly always has its seat in the physical condition, not in the moral. It is a continual effort not to listen to the moods which arise from a physical condition, never submit to them for a second. We have to take ourselves by the scruff of the neck and shake ourselves, and we will find that we can do what we said we could not. The curse with most of us is that we won't. The Christian life is one of incarnate spiritual pluck. My Utmost for His Highest; May 20

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Compton Aug 31, 2005

Moods never go by praying, moods go by kicking. A mood nearly always has its seat in the physical condition, not in the moral.This is really an insightful comment. I know many who seem to wear themselves out with "tilting at windmills" so to speak, when it comes to "personal battles." It seems more vogue today then ever to regard emotional and physical discipline as moral, and even "spiritual" warfare. The moment I feel sad, I immediately look to moral failings as opposed to physical issues. Without physical discipline...our moods can never be controlled. Even personalities that simply require maturity and discipline to keep in check are mistaken for spiritual conditions. I think it's interesting that Chambers isolated this tendency and talked about it so plainly.

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Eli_Barnabas Aug 31, 2005

Go for a walk. This helps. Get alone OUTSIDE and talk to God. Observe things as you walk, people, trees, buildings... observe the need for the gospel in man, the beauty of Creation, the blessedness of stillness. When you are feeling 'blah', go for a walk.Don't give up, brother! It's a big change when a man gives up such central things in our society... most people choke on the change. God will take you through if you allow Him to.Read this again and again!"But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith. I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. Only let us live up to what we have already attained. Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you. For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.Therefore, my brothers, you whom I love and long for, my joy and crown, that is how you should stand firm in the Lord, dear friends!" - Philippians 3:7-Philippians 4:1God bless, brother!-Eli

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

Eli, that was encouraging. The scripture. I think i will, 'go for a walk' maybe for like 2 hours or something, just let my mind go and just release it all.I used to do that but i never really 'planned' a walk, i just 'did it'.For some reason I can't seem to focus on God in my room like i used to probly because it is now just the only time i talk to Him. *Before it used to be everywhere, Work...walking home from school (45 mins everyday)..and tons of other random times.Everyone, thank you for your deep words. Each one nudged on my heart a little bit.

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andres Aug 31, 2005

listen up solider ! there is a dying world out there! you know the bible and i know you know its promises aren true.. so get up and go pray. God has given you a ministry to take care of so take care of it. its a battle and yes, we do get weary but victory is close at hand. "from strength to strentgh go on, wrestle and fight and pray, tread all the powers of darkness down and win the well fought day still let the Spirit cry in all his soliders,"COME" till Christ the lord, descends from high and takesthe conquerors home." --charles wesley

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

still let the Spirit cryin all his soliders,"COME"till Christ the lord, descendsfrom highand takes the conquerors home."andres, my brother, I know the first half of the verse you posted but I've never heard the second. It is beautiful. Do you have the whole hymn somewhere? Could you be bothered to post it here, or pm me with it, or give me a link? Thanks. :-)

sermonindex Aug 31, 2005

Thanks for some of your blunt answers and such.I feel as if I found my own answer to my question. Only by God's timing. I tried walking and talking to God. For about half an hour. Then I talked to a youth pastor in my area, and he is really nice and down to earth. I just need to have a religious time to 'act' for God and have a religious time to 'receive' from God. He never said anything of that nature, but i'm getting a clearer mind about this all now.I.E. Religious time to 'act' is a day outta the week were me and a group of friends would help someone, witness or just do different things for God; always being Spirit sensitive.Religious time to 'receive' is a day(s) outta the week were i would speak with someone about whats going on in their life and their own struggles, in other words 'be friending the brethern'The second one i believe is more key because of the fact of me not having to many friends in the past. Most of my friends have let me down in some sort of way. And i knew, deep within, that i was still 'hurting/unforgiving' about it. Not that i didn't forgive someone, but like i still had a hesistent feeling to open up and to listen and to really really be a true friend to someone.I'm not playing the 'sympathy' card but just speaking from my heart. I hope thru reading any of this that if your like me, and have had NUMEROUS of precious people hurt you, and you don't have friends now, reach out to someone and be their friend. (Youth Pastors are great, or Leaders...anyone that maybe God might lay on your heart...like if your doing a ministry for widows then befriend someone who is working with widows...etc..etc.)God bless.

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andres Sep 1, 2005

praise God brother that God has shown you light and truth. at times i have felt alone and the first thing i would do was to isolate myself and this would go on for weeks, but i learned that we need men around us who will keep us accountable , men of God who we could get advice from. thank God for you and keep letting God fight your battles. P.S. the hymn is called "Solders of Christ Arise" by charles wesely i found it on a great website called www.preceptaustin.org .. love always

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andres Sep 2, 2005

1)soliders of Christ arise, and put your armor on, stong in the strength which God supplies thru his eternal Son. strong in the lord of hosts and in his mighty power, who in the strength of Jesus trusts, is more than conqueror 2)stand then in his great might with all his strength endued but take to arm you for the fight the panoply of God. that having all things done and all your conflicts passed ye may o'ercome thru Christ alone and stand entire at last 3) Pray without ceasing pray (your Captain gives the word) his summons cheerfully obey and call upon the Lordto God your every want in instant prayer display pray always, pray and never faint, pray , without ceasing pray 4) from strength to strength go on wrestle and fight and pray tread all the powers of darkness down and win the well fought day still let the Spirit cry in all his soldiers cry till Christ the Lord, descends from high and takes the conquerors home. charles wesley Soldiers of Christ, Arise

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