Choo Thomas - Heaven is so real

Hey fellow brothers and sisters!Not long ago someone started talking about a book from Choo Thomas, called 'Heaven is so real'. She was quite enthousiastic about the book.The special thing about her was that she claimes that Jesus had shown her heaven 17 times and hell twice. I don't know about these things. But she also wrote that there are people walking around the edge of hell and such things..There is absolutely no evidence in the Bible to support such a claim. To put it bluntly I don't trust this, I think this is fishy. Does anyone know some more about this author or this book?I have to say that I haven't read this yet, but I'm currently receiving a video about this woman.Thanks in advance!

I have seen the interview with this woman.. I think this thread can be changed into a warning. Video interview with Choo ThomasAvoid all books who claim to be the truth except for the Bible. A normal Bible study book would never claim visions as truth which cannot be checked, confirmed or going against the Bible.While Biblestudy books (should) contain truth as they refer to the Bible they will not put it in a position that it will be truth itself.As for this woman, words as 'posessed' and 'occult' come to my mind.I will stick with His Word.Still I would like to know if anyone knows more about her.[edit]There is also a 'spiritual song' from her on her website. Google on Choo Thomas if you want to listen to it. I haven't and won't do this.

I guess what I personally see in what I call signs and wonders type ministeries in the story where the disciples saw other disciples casting out demons and they tried to stop them....Rember that story? Jesus said let them alone for he who isnot against us is for us. I supose her book or testomony will bring many to Christ. Is that book something for me personally? No. But I refuse to judge her experience and while her book isn't really meant to teach, I doubt very much that I'd read it either. I do believe there is a group of people who will be attracted to that kind of book and I believe God can use it to reach them, rember baalims donkey :-)

Bring to what christ?I haven't read the book tho.. but I would not recommend a book which isn't well biblically funded. Certainly not now that I've heard about some content from someone who did read it.Somehow this doesn't sound like the Christ from the Bible we know and worship.Another thing.. she couldn't see the face of this jesus when she was standing by hell (it was blurred), but she knew for sure he was weeping about the ppl in hell.Besides.. she had to write this book so people can know what heaven is like and choose for heaven?[edit]@ YeshuaIsMyGd, I noticed the weird audio too.I thought about turning up the volume or checking what that garbage sound was in the background by using an audioprog but I haven't done that.Also if I understood correctly she had seen heaven before she became a born again christian?[edit2]Fixed up some english

Paul asked the believers in Corinth "Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? (1 Corinthians 5:6)"Please read what the Lord told to the messenger of the church in Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-23). Though they had almost 90% of doctrines correct but Lord told "Nevertheless I have a few things against you." That you guys allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.The above passage is take as an analogue to the present scenario of modern Christendom. If our Lord zealously refuted against leaven (wrong doctrine) which was infiltrated into Christendom. If so, let us also follow the footsteps of our Lord. For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth (2 Corinthians 13:8).At the same time, we should never fight over trivial matter, i.e., different views on non-essential matters.In Him,Shibu

If you had listened to the video she was talking holiness, seperation from the world, even though she made some errors in doctrine , they seemed minor. Never the less I still wouldn't buy her book or read it. In the video her time line didn't jive' but as to judging her/thier motives for writting that book? I can't go there. Shibu -- you're from Northern India? than you should be used to these kind of testamonies coming from geniune believers, and much more.I would need to know the author on a personal level or someone I really trusted who knew that author before I would even consider validating such a work. However , taking it at face value I'd just leave it alone and not give it a lable one way or another.

Hey Dohzman, that is wisdom what you say..I just got so worried about the girl I was talking with on msn when she got so enthousiastic about this book.I'd rather have her focussing on Gods Word which is without error.No I didn't ment to judge this woman (or perhaps I already did :-() but the errors/weird things just jumped out into the front.It is true that she does say good things and I've listened to a compilation on 'fireonthealthar' about hell. Someone also described hell as a vulcano with fiery flames in it.Now it might very well that she is a sister in Christ with having wrote this book with the best intentions. Still visions of a vulcano wouldn't mean that hell is liturly like that. This cannot be tought as truth. Alot things about hell in the Bible is writen in a way we can comprehend for a small bit. We all can imagine flames, darkness, etc...I also listened to the featured sermon from 'David Wilkerson' about 'Hell, what is it like?'I do have to admit, that I find myself accepting his message much easier then that of Choo Thomas.David Wilkerson says things which the HS had told him about hell. Actually regardingless what we think of hell, we know it's a bad place and that many will end up in it.It's so true that I don't know this woman in real life and know nothing about the fruits she bears or how she is.I have prayed about this, and asked God to remove the wrong spirit from her if it does exist in her. If not that she would be used for Gods glory and honour. Thats she may exalt Him with the things she does. (Thats what I pray for others and myself too)I cannot look into her heart, nor say in advance that she is rotten or not. God knows and I'm not to judge that for God.What if I would call a child of God possesed while she is filled with the HS? Don't I blaspheme God then?Still warningleds go off, but perhaps I'm just nitpicking. :-? @ YeshuaIsMyGd,Well I hope my thoughts are wrong and that we can all laugh about this matter together with Choo if she is a saved Christian! Not that its an excuse, but I'm worried about the ease some people embrace things about God without scripture and put it forth as truth.But if there are people who have already read the whole book, feel free to comment on it.I will see on myself to be careful with such matters.

Hi brother dohzman,I didn't write with judgmental attitude or as a skeptic. Though I strongly believe in supernatural experience, at the same time, I will not accept any experience which contradict the scripture. My opinions were based on the following scripture though I didn't have any first hand information about her inner life or her inner walk with the Lord.It was based on the story of "The Rich Man and Lazarus" mentioned in Luke 16:19-31. As it is written in the following verses 27-31 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”In other words, even an angel from heaven can't convict a sinner if they are not convicted by the written word of God and prophets. If heaven doesn't encourage this types of supernatural experience, why should I? This is my conviction. At the same time, I will not judge about her stand before God since God only knows her heart. But I strongly disagree with her experience and its propaganda.In Him,Shibu

I am really surprised about the comments here about the book of Choo Thomas.I can tell you honoustly: the book have led me to Jesus in a way that's so complete!! How can something that leads a person (I'm not the only one, I can tell you that!!) to Jesus Christ, the Lord of the Lords, come from Satan?? Because that's what you're all saying. The reactions here remind me of the story in the bible where the farizees didn't believe the wonders that Jesus did. They thought Jesus was posessed by demons......You should be really careful to put a book a side through which thousands of people are lead to Jesus and are saved!! You can read the bible next to the book of Choo and you won't find one lie of text that goes against the Holy Bible.So instead of you warning people for her book, I'd like to warn you for this sceptism!I'm sorry my English isn't that perfect but I'm Dutch, so forgive me my faults ;-)

Well I've changed my stance from "this can't be good" too "I don't know" a while back.I think some of the things in this book (admittedly I have not read it myself) are very weird.Well I've prayed for Choo Thomas and asked God to forgive me if I falsely claimed her to teach heresy. One of the comments on this topic which I very agree with (from YeshuaIsMyGd) and hope that will be the case:If she is saved, we will laugh together about this. :-DMy aim is not to post topics in a spirit of criticism, it certainly is not my intention.Nor was it my intention to lure people into judging Choo Thomas. Perhaps its my problem that I'm so jumpy about 'Biblical truth outside the Bible'. The questions about some of the things I have heard about this book remain though.If I where to read such a book I would probably have serious trouble accepting certain things as truth if I can't find scriptural evidence at all. Something that is spared me when I read the Bible or most books which support their writings well with scripture. It is not so that I always checkup quoted verses in texts, but I usually do when I feel its necessary.The reason I started this topic was to see what you all would think about this book. There must have been someone who read this book here I figured. :-)Not to justify my actions, but what would you do if someone believed there where people walking around the edges of hell and told me that as truth?There is no scripture to prove that. Basically if you claim to have a vision about God nobody could tell you are wrong because 'God' gave you this vision.All I do know is that visions from God cannot not go against the Bible. As for new revelations, I'm very skeptical about that. In either way its very possible to have a great zeal for things regarding less if it is false or not. Paul thought he was slaying Christians for God, but in reality he was persecuting God and grieving His heart. I want the Truth, Gods Truth, so I stand open for correction if my thoughts about this book are false.In general: (not about this book)satan does not lead people to Christ, only to false christs using false gospels. Some people don't see 'false gospels' or false 'christs' (which at the moment basically is a non-existing God which does not conform with our Lord in the Bible) But we can all agree that satan does not lead people to Christ.God is, besides perfect Love also 100% Truth.I know God can use imperfect people to reach people for Him, but It seems impossible for God to show faulty visions or lies. How careful do we need to be in these last days.And I am being careful, forgive me if I offended you or if judged Choo Thomas prematurely.Even tho, if I do read this book and the Lord shows me fundamental errors in her teachings I will not recommend it and even warn for it. Pray for me if you think I am shortsighted. The Lord will show it to me then.I do want to thank you for being the first to reply who actually read this book!Praise God if He opened your eyes, no matter what way He used to archieve that!Be blessed and walk in Truth and Love![edit]Oh and welcome on SI too, I see you are new here. Have a blessed stay here!Don't worry about your english, mine is not perfect either. :-P (not by a long shot)

Hi warrior,Thanks for your honoust response :-) Are you from The Netherlands? That's what's written under your name....Well, I want to be totally honoust with you too. I bought the book at Sunday the 20th November and at tuesday the 22th of November I finished. The power that came from the book was so strong that I really had to put myself stopping! Tears ran over my face while reading it. I stopped several times just to worship Him and thank Him for everything He did for us.That stayed with me untill friday, the day I read these critics about the book. Do you know what happened? Some doubt came in my heart and immediately (litterly) the urge of praising Him, the urge of reading in the Bible...it was gone. Totally gone. I couldn't understand what happened in the first time. Because I brought my doubts to the Lord and I asked Him to show me whether this book came through the Holy Spirit of through satan's spirit.After spending a day in my houshold, with the loss of the feeling to praise Him, I prayed at night and suddenly it got clear to me. As soon as doubts came in my heart, the Spirit held Himself back. When I prayed that trough, He came back and now it's okay!What I try to say with this is that in my humble opion the Lord showed me very clear that the book is inspired deeply by the Holy Spirit. I even asked to forgive me for my doubt.And you know what? For many years we were afraid to give our thite...well, we gave it last friday for the first time ever! I feel the urge to obey Him.This is happened all after reading the book.What I would like to ask you is to buy the book, pray before start reading it, ask the Spirit to guide you and thén start reading it. And after reading it, please come back here and I'm very curious to hear your opinion. By the way, when you're opinion is labeled as 'fault' I won't make that my opinion because the Lord made it very clear to me.The one lesson I have learned of this book from Choo is that obeying the Lord is very, very, very important. This: 2 Corinthians 5:17 goes hand in hand with that. That's clear to me now!Wow, this has been a lot information! I really don't understand were all the words came from but okay, I hope you don't mind but I've got the feeling it's allright :-P :-P My sunday is almost over. I wish you a very good Sunday and I'll read you ;-) Marieke

Mmmm, ik klik net op je profiel, Jonathan! Zit ik me daar even uit te sloven in het Engels :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well you find those Dutchies everywhere right? :-PThere are some more around, if you like you could pm me in Dutch but lets keep the posting in English.Not that I mind reading Dutch, but some can't! ;-) Besides your English is understandable enough. :-)

Hey Marieke,I'm sorry to hear that these critics took your joy in the Lord away, or blocked you from praising the Lord. You know what? Praise the Lord for He reached you! I cannot really say more as I haven't read the book myself. Nor can I comment on your experiences!I'll post again in this topic if I read the book.God bless!Jonathan