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Christisking Dec 9, 2005

Maybe I'm just out of the loop but has anyone seen this? I saw this today for the first time when one of the children we take care of came over with the new McDonald's Happy Meal toy from The Disney Channel's hot new T.V. show. I was floored when I saw this - this is blatant! Like I said maybe I'm out of the loop and Christian all over the world are boycotting McDonald's and Disney, but if they aren't - shouldn't they be?Here is the link -http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa/ronald/happy/witch.html

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RobertW Dec 9, 2005

I was floored when I saw this - this is blatant! Paganism is on the rise for sure. Each year they press farther and father into the godlessness of heathen of the Old Testament. They have so much momentum with this stuff that it is sickening. And to think that while we are being force fed this stuff- retail stores are on a campaign to make sure that Christmas is removed from the holiday season- so that we suddenly have "Holiday Trees" and Holiday Dinners instead of Christmas. The West is slipping more and more all the time. And we are just seeing the beginning.

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roadsign Dec 9, 2005

Paganism is on the rise for sure.We're nothing like Rome was like in Jesus's day.We shouldn't be surprised, becuase it is expected. Jesus did not call us to focus on the sins of the world. Neither did the appostles. When I noticed this thread title, a verse came to mind: Whatever is true.. noble, ... right... pure.... lovely.... admirable... if anything is excellent of praiseworthy - think about such things. Phil. 4:8, 9Obeying this command is much better and healthier for us. I think a thread title like this is not edifying to anyone, and can pull people down. We are not the National Inquirer.

sermonindex Dec 9, 2005

Patrick,Parents don't know what and don't know why a lot of things to do with the occult and they don't perceive their children as vulnerable to suggestion. That means, they don't think of suggesting an alternative to the mythical and literally fabulous storylines which Disney and children's authors have been putting out for decades.People thought I was way over the top to object to this sort of thing many years ago, but I don't regret putting the other side of things to my children, even when they were quite small.One of the mistakes parents make is to think they can say it's all just make-believe.... In so doing, they deny the accuracy of some portrayals - for instance, of some occult practices - and they lay their children WIDER open to be taken in, than if they either didn't let them hear/see this stuff, or, they told them the whole truth.I made my six-year old's teacher find a reading book which was not about witchcraft, for him, which meant that an entire series was unavailable for his learning. Too bad, was my thought..... they should have wholesome topics for children to learn to read from, in the first place. By the time they were nine, both my children were willing to make their own objections to 'religion'-related activities which compromised their knowledge of what would please God. Right now, as teenagers, they are having their rebellions, but, I don't fear they will get too far from truth through ignorance and that's all I set out to prevent - because ignorance was my chief enemy when I was growing up with undiscerning adults around me.Last year, the biggest sales by the UK's main bookseller, were to teenagers about witchcraft and other occult/mystical practices. Many adults don't want to admit to themselves that witchcraft exists. And for no particular reason, just assume they know no-one that practises it...

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Yodi Dec 9, 2005

I don't know about the whole boycotting thing. How far do you go with it? What's the point? If you wanted to be technical, you'd have to boycott the whole entire world we live in. Just let your daily life be a witness. That's what I think anyway.

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Agent001 Dec 9, 2005

If you wanted to be technical, you'd have to boycott the whole entire world we live in. Hehe.. that's what I had in mind too.

sermonindex Dec 10, 2005

roadsign wrote:We're nothing like Rome was like in Jesus's day.We shouldn't be surprised, becuase it is expected. I think it's only nearing how much 'more' wicked than Rome, we will become.

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Christisking Dec 10, 2005

Yodi,Quote:"I don't know about the whole boycotting thing. How far do you go with it?"Answer:"The question should not be how far you go with it, but rather where does it start? How about blatant evil and witchcraft (not disguised witchcraft)but witchcraft that's blatantly called witchcraft? Should we wait until McDonald's and Disney start marketing a show and toy called "The Children Of Satan" before we say enough is enough? Or is that still not blatant enough for you?"Quote:"What's the point?"Answer:"The point we be to stand for our beliefs and say we aren't going to support or spend our money on products that support blatant witchcraft. If half of those who claimed to be Christians in the U.S. refused to buy McDonald's or support any Disney products (that's 40% of America)guess what would happen."Quote:"If you wanted to be technical, you'd have to boycott the whole entire world we live in."Answer:"This is a terrible excuse used to excuse the blatant. 'We can't boycott everything - so let's just sit by with our mouths shut and wallets open well blatant witchcraft is marketed to our children.' Can you not see how ridiculous what you are suggesting sounds? There are many Christians who have rejected the whole world we live in - are you saying this wrong?"Quote:"Just let your daily life be a witness."Answer:"Dear sister, please reconsider what you say - for this is sick! Lifestyle evangelism at it's worst! Of course our lifestyle has to back up what we preach, but to use that as an excuse to not preach or stand up for the truth is a lie straight from the pits of hell. This way of thinking is but a half truth and thus a lie from Satan."

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CJaKfOrEsT Dec 10, 2005

Yodi wrote:I don't know about the whole boycotting thing. How far do you go with it? What's the point? If you wanted to be technical, you'd have to boycott the whole entire world we live in. Just let your daily life be a witness. That's what I think anyway.Reminds me of an ad campaign McDonalds had over here a few years ago, which was built around ouija boards. It was supposed to be a series that ran over a few weeks, beginning which a group of teens going for a weekend away in a holiday house, the next part had them holding a seance, the next with a 'spirit' harrasing them, in a kind of horror movie theme.After the second episode, one of the larger youth outreach organisations call for christian teens to to second off letter to the McDonalds directors in Australia, attaching invoices from Hungry Jacks (our name for Burger King) to them. At the time, I thought that this would be a waste of time, and didn't participate. The funny thing is, the ads got pulled off the air, shortly after the third installment was released.One thing that we need to understand is that organisations like McDonalds, Burger King, and KFC, thrive on publicity and marketing (hey, why else would they be running a "Happy Meal" program). Christian Youth groups are a huge demographic for them (how meny youth groups either begin or end their activities at the "house of the golden arch", not to mention after evening service hang outs, etc). Churches mean big business for them, and if no one speaks up, they'll keep promoting this blatant ungodliness. However, if they think that they're going to lose this "christian dollar"...I'm not in anyway trying to imply that we be agressive, condemning (or embracing, for that matter) "Ronald and Co", but a lobbiest once told me that a letter is worth 100 signatures on a petition. We're not talking about a subtle attempt to distract people from God, but a deliberate effort to facinate children with occult themes. Wherever you stand in your opinion of films like "Harry Potter", and the like, we need to face the fact that occult groups are trying to re-educate the world away from its "superstitious tendency to believe in a personal God", to follow after the "light bearer" himself. In the last century, christianity wore the shame of wholsale apathy toward the rise of atheism, embracing it's education system, and adopting many of it's theories (of which evolution is the most obvious). I, for one, will not stand by and watch as the void that atheism left is filled by those who preach their theosophical alternatives (interestingly, many of them even quote the Bible in KJV verse, no less to spread their pantheistic views).Make no mistake, this is war, friends. Not with "carnal weapons" but with ones that are "mighty for pulling down strongholds" able to "cast down ever high thing that exhalts itself against the knowledge of God". Consider James' exhortation to not allow our prayers to excuse us from actively providing practical help to the poor and needy. Let us not now allow ourselves to stand idly by, silent with our activism, excused by our vocal prayers.If you don't think that it's enough to "let your daily life be a witness", when it comes to evangelism, then why apply it to activism?Anyway, that's my two cents.:-)

sermonindex Dec 10, 2005

a letter is worth 100 signatures on a petitionA new store on a busy road, 5 mins either way from other alcohol outlets, recently had its first application for a licence to sell alcohol refused BECAUSE 38 individuals had written protest letters against the licence being granted. Had they been all signed on one letter, the licence would not have been refused (I was told by the Area Manager). However, on Appeal, the licence was granted. I am interested that it took only 38 letters (in a city of a third of a million, to get such a result, and had those 38 people all joined to fund a lawyer, they might even have won the Appeal.... I think.