I was listening to a pastor and he was talking about the church having a starbucks and I was horrified. I go to church because of Jesus not coffee. The problem is the life of holiness is one split from the world.I have looked at my life and I see the world in my life, I know I will have to repent of my own worldyness it stinks in Gods site. He hates it. Pray for all of us that we will live christian lives that are not wordly.
Amen..Spongbob? Basketball courts? Drama Plays? God save us from it..
Well, if the pastor can't wake up his congregation, might as well let the coffee do it. (sigh)Grace and Peace...
Oh, and what's the scripture... Rev. 3:16?Grace and Peace...
As the antichrist comes to power, church will become completely worldly, or be destroyed. I believe that the evidence of the worldliness in most churches is there to be seen.Greg :-o Edit. The true "Church", the body of Christ, will survive. Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever.
Oh, and what's the scripture... Rev. 3:16?Sadly this is becoming my most quoted verse amongst Christian circles. There seems to be many problematic moves in the body of Christ, one definte part being outwardly worldly and hiding the spiritual inside and another being outwardly prophetic and spiritual yet hiding the worldliness inside.I was just watching such an abuse and ministers thirsty for lucure under the guise of prophetic ministry it made me sick to my stomach. I am definetly believing God is going to raise an generation of Christians that are built up in the word and full of the Spirit and this true movement and ministry will bring light to the false prophetic ministries and wordly churches.Jesus came to the earth to seek and save that which is lost and if an church movement or ministry does not have a passion for the lost then its missing one of the key elements of where God's heart is.
Send Me Lord!Often times I catch myself, too. For every victory I have, I discover a new downfall, a new wickedness in my own heart. I need to be less, and he must be more- another popular quote at the moment. And how true. Grace and Peace...
The church will never become worldly. Those pretenders become more and more corrupt.But as for the trend we are seeing today in those that profess to be of God, I think we are just at the start, it will go alot worse.But on a good note, this morning at church my pastor preached on this very topic, and he hammered the whole movement going this way and even asked the congregation to keep him accoutable that if he goes down the path of other preachers, stand up and warn him.
Well, if the pastor can't wake up his congregation, might as well let the coffee do it. (sigh)Wake up to 43 beans!In Australia we have Gloria Jeans portable coffee shops (coffee shop like starbucks) which the Salvation Army hires to try and attract people into the Church. They call it Cafe Church. People are coming to God for coffee instead of coming to God because he is a holy, righteous, and just God and we are worthless sinners. William Booth would be devasted at what has happened to the Salvation Army Church.
I truly believe that the Called Out One's who have Christs' Spirit are not getting worse.The denominations that house Christians of both believers and unbelievers will get worse until they can no longer hold things together and will have to abandon their programs and shut down. That seems to be the trend these days at least in our part of the globe. True believers are getting tired of the same old lies that they hear from the pulpit, they are seeking truth, reality. What holds the churches back from going forward is the leadership. They don't want the church to grow anymore than they have, if this happens new churches crop up, then they lose their positions and pay.This is really a good thing, we shouldn't look at this as something bad. Now we can get our eyes off a man centred gospel, our eyes off beautifying a building and start beautifying one another for the Kingdom of God is within us, and we can get down to serious living fellowshipping with one another.The world thinks that it's winning the war against the Church by worldliness and sin, but I tell you the truth, "I have reserved 700 million who have not bowed the knee to Baal", says the LORD God.LS
Your more than correct, I fear in many cases it describes some churches. Many churches are not strong enough to reach out because many of them have replaced joy with entertainment, doctrine with marketing, and charity for evangelism. Satan does not even bother to attack them because they are not a threat.
Your more than correct, I fear in many cases it describes some churches. Many churches are not strong enough to reach out because many of them have replaced joy with entertainment, doctrine with marketing, and charity for evangelism. Satan does not even bother to attack them because they are not a threat.True, very true. Amen and Amen.
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