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paula4jc Jan 7, 2006

My friend called to tell me she went to an awesome seminar on generational curses. She thinks her mother’s sins and cursing were passed to her, and believes God is punishing her for her mother’s sin.I can't believed people are collecting money to teach people such foolishness. If people would leave the world behind and spend more quiet time with the Lord they would be better englighten when they read the bible. I shared these verese and told her to read Ezekiel 18.2 Corinthians 5:17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!John 5:24"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.Ezekiel 18 1The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, 2What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? 3As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. 4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. 5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, 6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, 7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; 8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, 9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD. 10If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things, 11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife, 12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination, 13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. 14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like, 15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife, 16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment, 17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. 18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. 19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? 24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? 26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. 27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. 28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal? 30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. 31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

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ginnyrose Jan 7, 2006

Paula,I also want to believe this is a bunch of foolishness, yet when I see how some sins run in families, I am not so sure...and I did not have to go to a seminar to be taught this! I do not have to look very far to see this, either. Now if you come from a very small family with very few uncles, aunts, and cousins, you may find this hard to believe. A few years ago I compiled a genealogy book that consists of 7 generations beginning with my great-grand parents on down and this tribe numbered 1500 persons, not counting in-laws. I learned a lot from this project. And yes, there is a generational sin common in this family. Another question that dogs me is: how can one decide whether a certain sin is generational or simply the results of having a sinful nature? The generational sin I discovered is one of a critical spirit fueled by anger which results in evil imagination. This is very commom in this family. Is there a solution? Absolutely! I received deliverance from it, and how remarkable that was! Now are there other sins common in this family? I am sure of that, your regular garden variety that need to be repented and forsaken.You will notice I did not quote any scripture to substantiate my point. I am only writing out of observation. The conclusion is that whatever sins you have in your life can be overcome by the blood of the Lamb and that blaming your ancestors for your shortcomings will not allow you to squeek through into heaven without any repentence on your part. That is the short of the long. God will not allow any excuses because he made it possible to be overcmers.This is my opinion...ginnyrose

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crsschk Jan 7, 2006

Excellent ginnyrose!Would again appeal to "What sayeth the scriptures" and have a bit of familiarity with this 'teaching' as much as it is a fairly regular staple in many a WOF construct. It seems to be part of a very strange way of interpreting the Old Testament into the new covenant and casts all kinds of unneeded problems into the mix."Family traits" or hereditary dispositions? Think there is far too much read into this right from the get go and it can only go from bad to worse by suggestion and run away imaginings and ultimately to laying blame elsewhere.Being that a large part of this is mis-defined as a 'curse' rather than just the normal course of taking on ones surroundings, I.E. 1Co 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. Surely there is one curse and one Solution, but the rest of this gets thrown all sideways by the Lord Himself;Joh 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. It seems it is much more in the labeling and defining that goes on by some unscrupulous and sadly lacking Berean like mindsets to go along with a mans teaching rather than subjecting it all to Gods Word. I guess another big problem would be in what would they say to the adopted person? How are they going to trace that back? Another is just in this penchant to 'name' demons that have no scriptural warrant for doing so. Perhaps what is needed is a new deliverance ministry; To be delivered from laying the blame on everything other than oneself.I do realize it is not all that cut and dried here.You will notice I did not quote any scripture to substantiate my point. I am only writing out of observation. The conclusion is that whatever sins you have in your life can be overcome by the blood of the Lamb and that blaming your ancestors for your shortcomings will not allow you to squeek through into heaven without any repentence on your part. That is the short of the long. God will not allow any excuses because he made it possible to be overcmers.This is my opinion...And I share it. :-)

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Very Good Ginnyrose, well written.I agree with you. The only scriptures that is rolling around in my noggin regarding this subject is:Deuteronomy 13:17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and show thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers.I have seen men who were homosexuals (these were believers by the way) who wanted to escape this sin and got married. Something happened I am not sure what but the woman ended up being a lesbian and they would get a divorce. It's only rare relationships of this kind that one becomes the prayer warrior and fights for the deliverance of their mate. Of the above example, I have heard those who say that this is a classic example of the transferring of a spirit. Whether that be true or not, I am not sure, but it might be a good arguement. LORD only knows.Karl

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I'd like to put in a plea for the obvious, here - that of course there is a need for discernment in the defining of spiritual conditions which keep believers in bondage. On reading Leanne Payne, whose ministry is acknowledged, she testifies of God's power to break such bondages, with living examples of those who have been delivered.Also, a lady evangelist I know (distantly) was brought up in a Masonic household, and she herself was delivered from the generational curse which 'goes with the territory' and now has a ministry to other adults brought up under such oppression.I have heard those who say that this is a classic example of the transferring of a spirit. Whether that be true or not, I am not sure, but it might be a good arguement. This is an incorrect interpretation of the situation. It is more likely that a homosexual man was less threatened by a woman who was homosexually inclined, and her by him, than that she became a lesbian as a result of her marriage. The spirit which makes a man homosexually orientated is a feminine spirit. The spirit which makes a woman homosexually orientated is a masculine spirit. This is not to say there were not other spirits in the mix... but, not on the matter of homosexual orientation.Lastly, my own experience of being the one to whom God revealed what was 'wrong' with me, did not put me in a position to receive all my answers directly from Him, and believe me, I believed I ought to be able to, and I tried for many years BUT, it was not until I began to ask for prayer from others, that I began to be set free, and am completely free from specific bondages. There are many reasons for this, and you only have to look at the first two things Jesus did when He began His preaching ministry - cast out demons and heal - to see that modern man is no more equipped to break some kinds of spiritual bondage over his own life, than Jews were in Israel. That said, I'm sure some of us have prayed successfully for ourselves to be delivered or healed - but that is a matter of what God gives to individuals, rather than a blanket rule.... I'd say.

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crsschk Jan 8, 2006

The spirit which makes a man homosexually orientated is a feminine spirit. The spirit which makes a woman homosexually orientated is a masculine spirit. This is not to say there were not other spirits in the mix... but, not on the matter of homosexual orientation.Scripture for this?

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he spirit which makes a man homosexually orientated is a feminine spirit. The spirit which makes a woman homosexually orientated is a masculine spiritBut not all men are flames and not all women are butch.I know of men who are homosexual who are very masculine and you would never know if they were gay. Then there are those who are very feminate, you would almost think they were women.I also know guys who are feminate who are happily married.In all the relationships that I have seen amongst homosexuals there is the man role and the woman role, the man who looks and acts straight while the other holds the feminate role.I have heard alot of quotes from Leanne Payne from other writers, what I have read of her work it all makes sense.LS

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CrsschkScripture for this?Sometimes you might not find scriptures for everything, because Paul didn't delve into all the aspects of every problem, if he had of then the bible would have been a much larger volume than what we have now.Paul mentions some sins that what we used to be, like:1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.It's not as clear as we would like it to be, but sometimes we have to tear a scripture apart and draw from the Old Testement for some strengh.For example Paul says here that "but you were washed". We must turn to the old testement and see what washing entails.I don't believe for a moment that these washings that the LORD does with us is quick, but it's definitely for our good.We have prayed this prayer a million times, 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.I am not trying to back up the claims of the subject that we are posting about, but rather just showing all of us that not everything is going to be in the scriptures as plain as day, but we must allow the holy Spirit to open our hearts and our understanding to the word and allow it to speak to us. The scriptures that I mentioned above was meant as a recipe for anyone who cares to look further in regards to your own life, in regards to the LORDs way of washing you according to the Old Testement.LS

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crsschk Jan 8, 2006

Sometimes you might not find scriptures for everything, because Paul didn't delve into all the aspects of every problem, if he had of then the bible would have been a much larger volume than what we have now.I am not trying to back up the claims of the subject that we are posting about, but rather just showing all of us that not everything is going to be in the scriptures as plain as day, but we must allow the holy Spirit to open our hearts and our understanding to the word and allow it to speak to us. In regards to the question asked specifically to someone else, this is absurd and dangerous. The question doesn't pertain to something in that manner, it is in going beyond scripture. Which is why we have a plethora of these type's of things in our midst.

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GaryE Jan 8, 2006

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.For the redeemed, there shouldn't be any curse on them any longer. The curse has been removed from the believer. Though we may have a family that has a history of certain sins, when we are paid for by the blood, there is no curse. We don't have to be entangled again in a yoke of bondage. We are free and paid for by our nearest kin {Christ}. The taskmasters are no longer over us. We have left Egypt and followed Christ. Old things are passed away. etc.

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For the redeemed, there shouldn't be any curse on them any longer. Gary, I completely agree with the theory of your statement but, the reality for some people is that they are not delivered from some things, just because of coming to Christ. It could be argued that if the newborn babe in Christ's theology was up to the job, they could work it out for themselves but, most people who respond to the message preached, receive what they believed into, only. If there should have been or had been, more proclaimed, they would have believed into that. This is one aspect.Another aspect is whether the person believes they should have victory over sin because of believing. From many posts here at SI, there is a belief going around, that this is a bit of a hit or a miss. There is confusion about 'what is faith', and 'doing the will of the Father'. In other words, Christians may well continue in sin, until they start hungering for a closer walk with God. It is then that they honestly begin to face the inner truths about themselves, which have always been there, unchalleneged. I think it's here that the battle really begins, and strongholds start to be pulled down with a will. It is also here that genuine spiritually intransigent situations are identified.I would say this, now that I've battled with mine.... there is a sense in which it is no big deal after one is delivered, but, before the release?.... it is HUGE.... On the thread's main topic, I have not read widely, but, Leanne Payne's exposition is excellent, spiritual, workable and comaptible with experiencial truth as it is defined in scripture.EDIT: If the curse is 'the Law', rather than what God said to Adam and Eve in Genesis 3, then may it be that some people, who were never under the Law, do bring unidentified spiritual bondage with them, which requires their understanding and co-operation before it can be dealt with effectively - yes, by the power of the Blood of the Lamb - but not automatically? In so saying, I'm looking for explanations which fit both scripture and the experience of many people who find release subsequent (by years) to commitment.

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Scripture for this?Mike,If I was sitting with a homosexual, I could explain to them how scripture shows clearly, that it is a function of idolatry (Exo 20, Lev 18, Deu 4:16, Daniel 11:37, Rom 1, 1 Cor 10:20, 21) and there are many scriptures against idolatry specifically.The practising of idolatry, is what opens a person to receive an evil spirit, even if they had not been molested in such a way as to render them spiritually vulnerable, previously; note how many people brought a son or a daughter to Jesus's attention, to be delivered from a spirit, though not only children can need deliverance.In Acts 16, the spirit of divination caused the damsel to call out. That was the physical manifestation of her possession. The scripture defines other forms of physical manifestation - deafness, dumbness, throwing to the ground, crying out, throwing into fire or water, cutting with stones, living in the tombs, (I'll let you think of more) which indicate aspects of the power of an indwelling spirit, to control a certain aspect of the person's body. In the story of Legion, it is undeniable that his mind had been affected - I would say, his brain.... he has so little control over the spirits, that he could not resist either mentally, or physically, their tormenting thoughts and provokations to take action against his own body.In 1 Cor 6:18, Paul exhorts to 'Flee fornication'. This suggests the born again believer has the power to resist and overcome the temptation to this normal heterosexual instinct. Paul says it is a sin against the believer's own body, to practise fornication.Mark 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 'Sitting, clothed and in his right mind'. Here is the proof that deliverance from demons leads to a change in behaviour and thinking.Your quote was my clarification of Karl's suggestion that there is a 'spirit of homosexuality' - at least, that's what he meant - which could be transferred from a man to a woman. This is a misapprehension of the spiritual aspects of the oppression/provokation which results in homosexual acts. I sought the Lord for understanding of these matters over many years and now, I'd say there are various ways a person may end up practising sodomy. True, Jesus has the power to deliver from every one of them, and perhaps my statement was oversimplistic and bland. However, it was rooted in revelation from scripture and my own deliverance.

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Sorry I posted this in the wrong place, my apology was not with mike, I'll get my bearings straight.LS

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crsschk Jan 8, 2006

Timely that both of you are up here.The confusion that can be made amongst ourselves...Not in disagreement whatsoever in the general sense of things. What I was alluding to maybe could be couched in the more modern parlance; "The spirit (or demon) of____" This is what I was drawing attention to. "A feminine spirit", "the demon of alcohol", "the demon of bitterness", still waiting to hear where the "demon of blaming" is ... Sorry, don't mean to be otherwise flippant. But are these things not mere speculations? This naming of spirits and demons? Is it OK to just do these things without scriptural backing? There are ramifications here, what of the whole "spiritual mapping" business? Scriptural? Or speculative? The 'deliverance' ministries (not a wholesale indictment) how much is 'created' by suggestion rather than fact, truth? There is something rather dangerous in doing this and it lends to a rather spurious mindset. Recalling the whole exorcist phenomenon, or the 'regression' type things that is alluding me at the moment... What about the Salem Witch Trials?

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In regards to the question asked specifically to someone else, this is absurd and dangerous. The question doesn't pertain to something in that manner, it is in going beyond scripture. Which is why we have a plethora of these type's of things in our midst.Hey Mike, I agree with you, not everything is a demon, some are downright dirty habits that one can lick on thier own with the LORD's help of course.Now I believe in this stuff, the casting out of devils, and I laugh at people who think that everything that goes wrong in their lives is a devil. Jesus rebuked a deaf spirit, so we can learn from this that perhaps other organs in the body that are not working properly can be attributed to a spirit. I said "can be" not that they are. In another place it talks about those with a lying spirit. Those who work in this department of casting out devils will have or else someone under their ministry will have the gift called discernment, otherwise it's a hit and miss situation, hence, without ME you can do nothing-Jesus.LS

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crsschk Jan 8, 2006

Just the terminology that goes beyond and bringing in the other side of the equation. What I think I was referring to as example was the rise of 'satanism' there a few years back, when we had all kinds of 'convincing' proofs of things that could only be brought forth by certain ministers, it was eerily similar in style to the Salem Witch Trails, though without the killings. Now it comes to me; SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) Here's an old article on it;http://www.answers.org/satan/sralit.html

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Timely that both of you are up here.The confusion that can be made amongst ourselves...Not in disagreement whatsoever in the general sense of things. What I was alluding to maybe could be couched in the more modern parlance; "The spirit (or demon) of____" This is what I was drawing attention to. "A feminine spirit", ...Mike,I know you've raised this question in other threads, and I realise you're trying to address the over-spiritualisation of difficulties that some people may face and the ignorant and loose use of unhelpful language, by those who are not mature in the faith, or, who have never had to help someone who is in bondage to a spirit. (As LS said, discernment is needed..... this is a spiritual gift, which some people seem to receive early in their walk with God, and to others it comes more lately, as part of the multiplication of their gifts, as they exercise that which they first received - in my case, 'faith'.)It's fair enough to ask these things, and just for those reading, I will say you know more of my testimony than many here, so I don't mind being questioned publicly in a general way. But, when it comes to the nitty gritty of dealing with an individual who is struggling with a bondage which destroys their every waking hour, the issues are not terminology. It might be the very last thing I would say to someone I was about to pray with..... 'you have a spirit of such and such'. But, the person does need to know what we are asking God to deliver them from. This requires, quite simply, the use of nouns - names - descriptions.... otherwise, the prayer is so vague as to give the enemy endless room for manoeuvre, and God might not know what the request is. Remember how Jesus asked people what they wanted, even when we would say it was obvious that a leper would want his leprosy cleansed, or, a blind person would want to see. It's the same principle, that's all.As I proceeded in prayer over my own needs, I had to be able to label them, so I could confess specific things to God, and ask Him to break their power over me.... which I believed He did immediately I asked..... then I had to experience the outworking of that release .... and this is where it can be seen that information for the believer is essential - else how can a person resist familiar thoughts and urges, if they have not been separated out into a recognisable construct? On this basis, I would try to help a person see how things they were struggling with, might be linked. One of the things about bondage is that it also blinds the understanding and things seem disjointed from the inside (of one's head), although, to the observer, they are manifestly connected. I hope this helps to explain why I wrote as I did. If you think about the dynamics of homosexuality, there has to be a feminisation of the male, or a masculinisation of the female.... of course, this is why it feels so natural to them - the bondage is one of the deepest spiritual affects which can distress a body, seated right beside where the Spirit interacts with the spirit of a person. And this is why homosexuality is physically (and emotionally) destructive, because it is the ultimate reversal.... in which the natural use of the body (which was made male or female, in God's image) is utterly defiled. This is Satan's big success, and why I deliberately quoted that verse from Daniel 11, in which it says37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Here is, clearly, a link between homosexual status and the complete rejection of God Himself. Young's Literal refers to him as 'the Lawless One'.

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Your talking to me Dorcas, keep up with the great posts Sister.LS

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crsschk Jan 8, 2006

Just read through that linked article in it's entirety and it really is a good application, even to this discussion.Still disagree with the usage of 'terming' spirits and demons where there is no scriptural warrant to do so, this reasoning sounds like pragmatism and am only addressing this without bringing in all the extra examples and side issues. The reason being is that there is a whole lot of people reading these things and it is not to be overly dogmatic about it but unfortunately this is not predominantly an age of being a good Berean and as that article well points out we need to be testing ourselves and our belief's.Maybe will go ahead with some musings from earlier this morning, it's only odd in the similarities, perhaps it's just a case of "where my head is at", not that it's of any grand importance, just opinion ... One last thing to throw a big wrench in all this. Praying a couple of hours ago, dozed off (sound familiar?!) and had a most incredible dream. And as a preface haven't given this person a thought in a very long time. It was one of those where you actually 'feel' things, it's a bit difficult to unravel it all here, but pertained to an old girlfriend, nothing sinful but the cleverness of it all was something I had wanted to do a long time ago, apologize to her parents as she would get a lot of grief because of her personality. In reality, I was the one to blame and was strung out on drugs in those days. It was very 'up to date' as I expressed everything including what the Lord had done, my chagrin with a lot of what passes for Christianity in our day... Quite vivid and full of truth even the realization that I am a married man, quite a bit more, some real heart tugging matters. When I awoke it was deeply troubling on a number of levels. Why? What does it mean? Does it mean anything? Frankly, what I would be more inclined to believe is that it was a very clever and subtle attack. It was full of love and good things, forgiveness (forgot to mention that, I had asked for forgiveness in the dream) truth, honesty, what more could one ask for? Except this, what was left of it to the natural and that being a temptation, a certain 'wishfulness' implied due to present circumstances. What evidence do I have other than a subjective reasoning? Well, only that this is not the first time that these sort of things have happened while praying (that is neither here nor there) but it does lend credence to what was said in 2Co 11:14,15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.But again, would I want to put a label on it? Jer 23:28 The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully.

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GaryE Jan 8, 2006

{Quote} GaryEGal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.For the redeemed, there shouldn't be any curse on them any longer. The curse has been removed from the believer. Though we may have a family that has a history of certain sins, when we are paid for by the blood, there is no curse. We don't have to be entangled again in a yoke of bondage. We are free and paid for by our nearest kin {Christ}. The taskmasters are no longer over us. We have left Egypt and followed Christ. Old things are passed away. etc.…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Sister Dorcas,Yes, I totally agree that many people who are Christians are still in need of deliverance.For someone to be delivered, they must know that Christ has set, is setting, and wants to set them free of bondage. This is not just knowing the above quoted truths with the mind, it is a heart thing. It is important to have the revelation that they are free. It becomes established within them that they are free to the place where they speak it. I’m not saying that to speak it makes them free, but when a person is delivered he or she is able to state it as fact because it is established in their heart to be fact. In truth they can say; I’m free. There is no doubt when they say this.The above verse, Gal. 3:13 is a fact. When the person has received this fact in their heart not their heads, they are free. There is no generational curse on any person who has the truth of this fact established in their heart.In Christ,GaryE…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………What is really needed today are true operations of the gifts of the Holy Spirit so that people can hear the truth of the Word and know they are free.

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