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LEAVING BEHIND the "OUT-OF-CHURCH" REVOLUTION - andrew strom

sermonindex Jan 27, 2006

LEAVING BEHIND the "OUT-OF-CHURCH" REVOLUTION-by Andrew Strom.A year ago I made a public announcement that I was leaving the 'Prophetic' movement - a movement I had been a part of for over ten years. In hindsight I certainly believe that was the right decision, and one that had to be made. Sometimes a public"leaving behind" is important. However, I don't want to be knownas the 'Leaving' guy, so I am kind-of embarrassed at having tomake another similar statement only a year later. But God hasbeen laying this on my heart for some time.Recently I have been growing more and more uncomfortable with another move that my name has been associated with for many years. -On our website we call it the "Out-of-church" movement, though recently George Barna has taken to calling it the "Revolution". -It is not exactly the same thing, but it overlaps greatly. And as someone who has been a known sympathiser and supporter of this movement, the time has come for me to state publicly that I am leaving it behind. I can no longer be seen to support something that is fundamentally anti-New Testament.Please do not think that I am referring to the 'House-church'movement here. That is not what I am referring to, though I do have small concerns with that movement also. But that is not it. For the last 20 years I have been involved with a network of people who have left their churches - often to go into a kind of individualistic "just me and God" type of mode. I cannot be party to such thinking any more. The problem I have seen is that a "wilderness" mentalitydevelops - and many people simply live there forever. There is notrue "Body Life" and no true "Leadership" - and I have noticed thatbecause of this NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS. For year afteryear - NOTHING. Why is this? -Because 'Body' and 'Leadership' are utterly essentialto basic New Testament Christianity actually HAPPENING. Without these two things we simply do not get anywhere. I mean - isn't that the pattern that we see right through the Book of Acts?For some people the 'Out-of-church' Revolution is "new". But forme it is very old, and after 20 years observation there is one simple thing I can tell you: IT DOES NOT WORK. It does not transition into real New Testament 'Body Life'. It does not lead to Revival. Itdoes not transform the church. It "scatters" instead of gathering, and leads to what I call "amorphous blob" Christianity. -In other words, the Body of Christ becomes an unfocused mass of individualists without form or direction - "each man doing what is right in his own eyes." I don't know if we can find much more of an opposite to true Body Life than that.A lot of these people say that if we are going to have leaders, thenthey must be real "servants". Amen! -I fully agree. But the NewTestament also states that we need 'Fathers' in the faith (-whobring correction, discipline and teaching) and also true 'shepherds'.In my experience, those who want the 'servants' - without the 'fathers' or 'shepherds' - are often people who have a deep stronghold of 'REBELLION' in their hearts - which they are trying to cover up with high-sounding talk. (-Just as I myself used to do).And that is what this movement is full of: High-sounding talk.You see it in Barna's book "Revolution". You hear it everywhereyou go in the 'Out-of-church' movement. Vast claims are beingmade for those who will simply "come out" - and actually "BE thechurch without having to GO to church", etc. One would think that"coming out" was the solution to all that ails us. But as I haveseen for 20 years now, nothing could be further from the truth.The facts are plain and simple: If your thinking and behaviour are basically "anti-Body" and "anti-Leader", then don't expect to get anywhere. And don't expect the Body of Christ to get anywhere either. We are not designed to be an "amorphous blob". We aredesigned to be a unified army with leaders and direction andteamwork - taking the kingdom of darkness using "combined force".United together we are very powerful - for God designed us to bea 'Body'. Split apart into "individualists", we are weak and ineffective.And in the Book of Acts, they united under 'LEADERS'. It was'LEADERS' that were the glue that God used to keep the wholething together. -This has simply always been His way.Are you someone who has trouble with the concept of uniting underleaders? -In that case, do not expect to take part in the comingmove of God. -Your attitude is totally anti-New Testament.But do I have sympathy for people who feel like 'outcasts' in the church? Do I have sympathy for those who search and search, yet cannot seem to find a church that is biblically sound? -Certainly.I get people writing to me all the time saying they have been around every church in their area, and all there seems to be are 'dead' traditional churches or hype-ridden, over-the-top 'Charismania' churches (and yes, I am Spirit-filled myself, but have to admit that the Charismatic movement today is in an awful mess). That is a huge problem - for where do these people go?The fact is, what Barna is popularizing as a new "Revolution" in many cases is something a lot less. Often it is simply the church getting so bad that many of its best people are being forced out - never to return. Does that sound like a great "Revolution" to you?The real problem, as Barna himself has stated many times, is thatthere is a LEADERSHIP CRISIS in the Western church. It is simply impossible to believe that things would have gotten so bad if this were not the case.So what is the answer? -It is certainly not to abandon the conceptsof 'Body' and 'Leadership' altogether. That is not an option at all. Butthere has got to be a "new" way for God to bring order to Hisbackslidden church.I have said many times that what is coming in the West is not justa Revival but also a "Great Reformation". God cannot live with alukewarm church. He is about to bring great 'change'. And during a Reformation, God always deals with these two issues of 'Body' and 'Leaders'. - He raises up something NEW.So what am I saying here? -Simply that "coming out" is not theanswer. Rather, the issue is whether you will "enter in" to thenew thing that God wants to do. -That is always the issue. AndI tell you, if you have a problem with 'Body' or 'Leaders' thenyour chances of entering in are almost non-existant. -We simply cannot come into New Testament Christianity without these two things. I don't know about you, but I have a great sense of expectancyabout this year (2006) and coming years. I truly believe we maybe about to see some breakthroughs in the "new thing" that God is wanting to establish. But one thing is for sure:- If we are unwilling to either LEAD or be LED, then I believe we can virtually forget about taking part. -That is how important Leadership is, in a new move of God. -It is UTTERLY VITAL.Friends, can you grasp this crucial fact:- The season has changedand it is time to "ENTER IN" not 'come out'. God wants to do a'new thing', and the real question is whether your heart is capable of entering in and being part of it. Do not be like the children of Israel who wandered and died in the desert because they failed to enter their Promised Land. -Be one who 'enters in'.In closing, I need to say this:Because I can no longer condone the 'Out-of-church' Revolutionthat I have endorsed for many years, I needed to take my e-book "The OUT-OF-CHURCH Christians" off the main page of our website - http://www.revivalschool.com . This has now been done.I would also ask that you please forward this email to yourfriends and to other Lists - to anyone who may be aware of ourprevious stance. We need to have it widely known that we nolonger support the 'Out-of-church' Revolution - mainly becauseof these two issues - 'Body' and 'Leaders'. So please let others know. I realize that we risk angering and upsetting a great number of people by "cutting ourselves off" from this movement. I am trulysorry. However, I believe that my calling as a Revivalist is to restore and preach the original gospel - that is the major call onmy life. And lately I have had a strong feeling that I cannot advance into 2006 properly with this issue hanging over my head. -This is a crucial year.So do we ourselves belong to a local church? -YES WE DO.And is our ministry actively pursuing true 'Body Life' and an 'apostolic' gospel? -YES WE ARE. Glorious days are ahead for the Body of Christ - I am convinced of it. That is why I am urgingus all to leave behind the 'wilderness' mentality, and take on a"Promised Land" mentality instead. It is time to "enter in". And Icannot remain with any movement that preaches otherwise.

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RobertW Jan 27, 2006

That is why I am urgingus all to leave behind the 'wilderness' mentality, and take on a"Promised Land" mentality instead.I think this is a tremendous step for Andrew. I likewise have concerns for folks who have totally abandoned any and every type of fellowship. I hope that those who read this will prayerfully consider afresh what scripture tells us about being a 'Body'. We need each other as believers- even the much more as we see that day approaching.

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Popcorn Jan 27, 2006

But, brothers, during the day of trial in the wilderness, God was angry with that generation of rebellious hardened unbelieving hearts. They saw God's works for forty years and still didn't know God's ways. They saw God's acts, and expected the continuation of God's acts, but they didn't know God's ways. Even after all those miracles, they died in unbelief.I mentioned in another thread that I can't find a church in Miami, Florida, where they teach the full counsel of God. They are teaching the prosperity message as a prime product. The "they" in that sentence represents every denomination, other than the Catholics, that I have visited - and my visits to those churches lasted, in some cases, more than a year. Wouldn't I be fostering rebellion to stay in a ministry where I was in complete disagreement - not in rebellion OVER the teaching, but in disagreement WITH the teaching? The Word says two can't even walk together unless they are in agreement. How could I stay in fellowship with false brethern? Paul said one of the perils he faced was with false brethern. It is a real problem. I've prayed very hard about this and leaving was the only answer.It isn't in me to bring about or encourage rebellion by the people in anyone's ministry. That's demonic and I won't have any part of that. The message being preached and taught is between God and the man or woman standing up in front representing God.Don't think I haven't said anything about misrepresentative teachings to the person doing the teaching - I have. But, I would never make a campaign out of it.What I've been seeing is the Scripture in Malachi coming to life. In chapter 2 the Lord gives the priests a commandment and a warning and in chapter 3, verses 16, 17 and 18 He says: Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another, and the Lord listened and heard them; so a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the Lord and who meditate on His name. "They shall be Mine," says the Lord of hosts. "On the day that I make them My jewels, and I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him." Then you shall again discern between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him. (NKJV)I didn't write all that to justify my not going to church. I have NOT forsaken the gathering together with my Christian brothers and sisters . . . I LOVE them! . . . I just can't FIND them!!!

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dohzman Jan 27, 2006

I'll pray with you that the Lord will help you find an assembly of saints either in a house church or building that will be a blessing to you and you toward them. Rember, even in prosperity churches I believe the Lord has His faithful who serve Him with all thier hearts.

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Popcorn Jan 27, 2006

Thank you, Dohzman. I appreciate that. God bless you.

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Bomar Jan 28, 2006

This seems to be timely for myself as well. Having being a "no-churcher" for about a year now, I am beginning to be stirred to consider committing myself to some already established local body. I have been meeting w/ saints in my living room (and other living rooms)for some time, but have been completely "no-organization". Maybe it's time to start ramping back up again...

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