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Anti-Christian Bill defeated by 1 vote in UK

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saved_matt Feb 3, 2006

Praise the Lord, the Racial and religious hatred bill that has been looming over our skies in the UK to threaten our right to preach the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ has been defeated by a majority of ..... 1 vote!!What is even better is that 1 vote was supposed to be from Prime Minister Tony Blair who went home when on of his colleagues told him they'd win no problem.Praise the Lord for His goodness and mercy to our backslidden countrynews article here: Blair attempts to brush off defeat over religious hate billGlory to God!!matt

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suzy Feb 4, 2006

:-) You beat me to this posting, Matt - I have been too busy to place it! :-) Praise God! I am thrilled that the Lord intervened when it looked rather unlikely that the bill would be defeated. The BBC have got a list of how each politician voted, if you in Britain would like to know how your MP voted. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4668266.stmWe need to continue praying for more positive and good things to happen in the UK, not Tony Blair's way all the time. And we need to make use of our continued free speech (while we still have it). Sue

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IsaacD Feb 4, 2006

Awww man. That sounds awful...England... I'm an English citizen, but I haven't been there for 15 years. I've been over here in the US, when I'm not even an American citizen. Is England really gotten that bad? Was it always like this? Or... What's the evangelism situation over in England...?

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philologos Feb 4, 2006

God’s sovereigntyThe result on Tuesday was extraordinary and historic. In order to keep the excellent Lords amendments it was necessary to win two votes. If we had lost either one of the two votes, the ping-pong procedure between the two Houses of Parliament would have continued. The first vote was won with a majority of ten. The second was won by a single vote! The Prime Minister himself left after the first vote having been told there was no point staying. There have also been reports that during the proceedings a small number of MPs who backed the Lords amendments accidentally voted with the Government on the second vote. If true, such confusion would be understandable. The Government used a timetable motion which changed the order of the votes.Political journalists have spent much time trying to come up with an explanation as to how the Government lost the vote on Tuesday. But as things come to light, it is becoming easier to see how the vote was lost. All of the circumstances, including the personal role of the Prime Minister, are a poignant reminder of God’s sovereignty. As Christians we thank God for his great mercy for this victory. As a nation we do not deserve it. If ever there was a vote for Christians to win, this was it. We do rejoice and thank God for answering our prayers.Human responsibilityAs well as prayer, God also expects us to act. I do not believe that the Lord would have answered our prayers if we had neglected the importance of action. As Spurgeon pointed out, we should pray as if it all depends upon God and act as if it all depends on us.The campaign against the religious hatred law involved the biggest mobilisation of Christians there has been for a generation. A wide range of Christian organisations worked very hard to protect religious liberty. At The Christian Institute it was by far and away the biggest campaign we have ever fought – with meetings all over the country, and large postage, travel and printing bills. If you would like to help us cover our costs then you can give on-line.Simon Calvert, from the Christian Institute, was at Westminster talking to MPs right up until the debate started. Even at a late stage MPs changed their minds and said they would back the Lords amendments. Our friends at the Lawyers Christian Fellowship also reported the same thing.From a human point of view I am absolutely certain that it was the lobbying by the individual Christians of their MPs which was the most decisive factor of all. Many supporters have told us how they went to see their MP in trepidation! Yet their courage has been honoured.We will never know which conversation, letter or telephone call it was which convinced an MP to change his or her mind. It could have been yours! When we consider that the victory was won by a majority of only one, we see how vital every MP’s vote was. It all goes to show the great importance of Christian involvement. Let us not neglect our freedom, as has been done in years past. We must be watchful and prayerful.What the Bill saysThe Religious Hatred Bill will become law, but with the excellent Lords safeguards included. It is only possible to break the new law by using threatening words or behaviour with the intention of inciting hatred against a person because of their religious belief.The Minister, Paul Goggins, told the House of Commons on 31 January that if the Lords amendments were passed “it would be virtually impossible to bring a successful prosecution.” (Hansard Column 190). Well now the Lords amendments have been passed, so according to the Government a successful prosecution would be virtually impossible!The Lords amendments have added the following free speech protection for the new religious hatred offence:29J Protection of freedom of expressionNothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.We have always opposed the Bill. There is a danger that it could be misused, although now that danger has been massively reduced. Our greatest concern is that legislation simply should not be made in this area. We can be very thankful indeed that Gospel freedom will not be put in jeopardy, as it so easily could have been by this Bill.However, now that legislation has been made covering religion, there will be calls for “homophobic hatred” to be specifically outlawed. This is a concern because of a number of recent high profile cases where gay rights activists have sought to get the police to stop Christians speaking up about homosexuality.Joe and Helen RobertsYou may remember that just before Christmas a Christian couple from Lancashire were interrogated by police because they complained to their local council over its gay rights policy. We have been involved in helping the couple, Joe and Helen Roberts, lodge an official complaint to the police and the council. We recently held a public meeting in Preston about the case. A recording of the meeting, which includes a statement from Joe Roberts, is available from our website.If the Police do not accept that they were in the wrong, there is the possibility of legal action to seek redress in the courts.Pray thatJoe and Helen may know God’s strength as they seek to take a stand against what the Police have done.Lancashire Constabulary will apologise and say that no crime has been committed and that they should not have visited Joe and Helen.The resolution of the case by whatever means will set a precedent to protect ChristiansAnd finallyIt has been a very long campaign against the religious hatred law. Thank you for all your prayers and support during that time.Yours in Christ, Colin HartDirectorThe Christian Institute.

sermonindex Feb 5, 2006

I thought that England was the last place on earth to find a populas of believers. But this vote proves that the Church of Jesus Christ is very much active there. My fellow Christians in Great Britain forgive me for my ignorance, I am overwhelmed.

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Compton Feb 5, 2006

We do rejoice and thank God for answering our prayers.The bulletin is both inspirational and sobering. It strengthens my personal conclusion that Christians do have a civic role to play in society and in government. Whoever said you can't legislate morality was wrong. Lawmakers are doing it all the time.The campaign against the religious hatred law involved the biggest mobilisation of Christians there has been for a generation.Thank God for the Christians in England. This is such an encouraging report.MC

sermonindex Feb 5, 2006

As Spurgeon pointed out, we should pray as if it all depends upon God and act as if it all depends on us.Hi MC,I like this quote from Spurgeon. 8-) However, I would point out that being in a truly Christian protest group, is far different from a Christian joining a political party which is operating under non-Christian guidance. Therein lies compromise - except one is being obedient to God under His specific agenda for one's life. My 2p.

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