What is your opion of this - Jennifer Perez Testimony?

I found the testimony by from a link some one post here. Its under "Free Testimony Tract"I plan to burn it to a CD and give it to my teeagers. Every day I asked the Lord what may I do to get my kids to be attracted more to Him and less to the world. Jennifer Perez

It does sound like this is what appeared to her. Is it scripturally sound that demons will torture people in hell?

That's what I thought Krispy. This young girl who gave her testimony stated that demons were torturing people in the hell she said she had a vision of.

paula4jcI like your words about getting rich. :-) "where your treasure is their will your heart be also."we are in the world but not of the world.My treasure is in heaven and he will bring his reward with him.to share in his glorie we must also suffer,and from that we will be rewardedBro. Ravin

bro Krispy and allKrispy you saidSince this thread is about our opinions on this... it is my opinion that at least that part of her "vision" was not of God. God will not contradict His Word... ever.when God told Peter to kill and eat the unclean animals which were on that sheet in acts Peter said he'd never eaten such in his life and so e didn't do it and stayed hungry. Peter was relying on the word of God as handed down through Moses concerning what they were not to eat and what was fit for eating. God is asking Peter to do the opposite of what he had practised all his life. seems like a contradiction to me, is there another way to explain it? we know that the law given to moses was God's word yet here He wants Peter to go against it :-?then there is the example of elijah.i'd been reading through bro Katz's writings on the prophetic and the portion on Elijah, the prophet of ressurrection was quite powerful. in it Art Katz speaks of the importance of complete death to self including piety. Peter went hungry because he was holding onto what the Lord said to his ancestors and not being obedient to what God was commanding him to do now. Elijah was sent to a gentile woman (the Jews weren't to assciate with gentiles) for a couple of years. then her son died and elijah went and laid on this boy 3 times and prayed to God that he be revived and he was. elijah didn't let his piety keep him from touching a dead body, mind you as per the law there was to be no fooling with dead, at least without then going through the purification process.Art Katz concluded the Lord was free to do as He pleased even contradict even His word.makes you want to sit down and rethink what you think of God huh? :-? could we be reading God all wrong?trying to figure this out...

Hi Ironman,The scripture that Steve sited was not an command it was perspective that Jesus himself had of hell. I believe that Jesus would have first hand info as to what hell was intended for.

I’ve seen many, many people beaten, torture and tormented by demons. If tormenting and torturing are happening to the unrighteous in plain sights it’s not unlikely that demons are tormenting unrepented sinners who die in their sins, and this will continues until the Christ comes and put an end to all evil and cast the demons into everlasting condemnation.Now you may ask where you see demons torturing and tormenting people? I believe that those of us who grew up in poor third world communities can identify more closely with the natural and physical environment of the bible, and when we become spiritually enlighten we grasps the spiritual truth profoundly, and exhibit deeper appreciation, joy in our suffering and poverty than those who are from the rich cities or countries. I saw them living in the streets and others live in the wooded areas; some are very violent and attack people, some beats themselves with stones, cut themselves all over the body, some go naked and curse the worse profanity, etc. In the USA you don’t see them because they are locked away in mental institutions or heavily tranquilize at home. Poor countries don’t have the resources to keep them off the streets. In the rich countries they are identify by sophisticated names, and in the poor third world countries they are marked by many speculations and superstitions. But those in Christ know of what spiritually condition they are.

How's everyone doing? Haven't had a lot of time lately as my responsibilities have added much more pressures and now prayer seems to be taking more of my time. I kinda humourously approach the whole story of Peter and his trance in Joppa rembering also how he backed down from eating with gentile believers and had to be confronted and rebuked publically by Paul, probably missed out on a very good tasting ham :-) As to visions and dreams, it is no small matter that not only do they need to be grounded in scripture, but also demons fallen spirits etc... seem to have some access to (some) believers in thier sleep at times, and because of that the proper applications need to administered, if one prophesies let another judge, same principle. All things in order and all things to the edifing of the body of Christ and glorifying of God. I would probably ask first if the lady who had this experience was faithful in a grounded in the truth fellowship and then build from there. So many of these experience based ministries have no real authority and arenot submitted to anyone at all, no accountability. Don't know if that's the case here, so I'm speaking in a broad generality.BTW Krisy---I love your zeal for the truth bro. God Bless :-) Love in Christ Bro. Daryl

I love to read stories of people who had a vision of heaven and {{maybe]]] hell IF they are authentic. They do exist. I think it is terrible how the devil has exploited this venue to deceive people, but then one should not be surprised either.One time I did a search on google about visions of heaven and the stuff people write! Some are so imaginative it is obvious. Others, leave you wondering. Seems to me many of these visions of hell can serve as a stumbling block to weak Christians...Just my opinion...ginnyrose

bro Krispyi hear you bro, i know God didn't change but His covenant did. now with the first covenant the Jews had strict dietary laws (which Peter still followed after salvation evidently) and He was asking Peter to violate those. i asked y'all if this was or wasn't contradictory. it seems to me it is but like i said at the end of the post, i'm trying to figure it out so help me out here. it seems to me that the mosaic covenant and o.t. is God's word just as much as is the new covenant and the n.t.now can you or someone answer the question was the Lord contradicting His word in what He asked Peter to do or not?i'm not losing any sleep over it but it seems plain enough to me that the Lord is sovereign and can do as He pleases. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.AMEN bro! we oft come to God with many wrong ideas and conceptions of Him (an idealized idol) which are so dear to us and when God shows us Himself as He is, we tend not to want to let those go though. i know the god i worshipped before was an idol of my own making but thanks be to God for His grace and mercy which reveals God to me as He in fact is.AMEN.

peter vision,of the great sheet,had four coners knited no4= four coner of the earth,all the beast where unclean ,and creeping things.=all with in the earth, acts10:15What God hath cleansed,that call not thou common.peter was being called to preach to the (gentiles),you'll see this in ver 28And he said unto them,Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a jew to keep company,or come unto one of another nation;but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or un clean.no where does it say peter ate anything unfit.

bro GQpeter vision,of the great sheet,had four coners knited no4= four coner of the earth,all the beast where unclean ,and creeping things.=all with in the earth, acts10:15What God hath cleansed,that call not thou common.peter was being called to preach to the (gentiles),you'll see this in ver 28And he said unto them,Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a jew to keep company,or come unto one of another nation;but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or un clean.no where does it say peter ate anything unfit.i didn't say that Peter ate any of the stuff because he refused to and stayed hungry so the Lord had commanded him to eat but he refused.

bro Krispythanks for considering that, let me know as the Lord leads what you find out. yeah i agree it is one that causes grown saints to sit down and seek the Lord...

I can tell you her experience was real. She is from my city in Houston and I knew her and her family. All I can say is she was rebellious but totally changed after this and began sharing her story. For a while we went to the same church and I got to spend a lot of time with her and her family but when they went to Bible college we lost touch.

Funny I was just goggling them to see if they were online somewhere. I miss them and wanted to reach out but I ended up coming across this thread. I must admit I was a bit hesitant to reply but if it helps one person, or reaffirms someone to boldly share this testimony and leads more people to Christ then who am I to not reply to this. I saw you guys getting into a back and forth on her testimony from a theological stand point but I just wanted to reaffirm it's validity. So this is legit, I met a girl who's life completely changed. God bless you guys, hopes this helps someone.