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roadsign Feb 27, 2006

One of the most important contributions you can make to your church is to pray for your pastor through the week. There are plenty parishioners who expect to get fed a good meal on Sunday morning, and are quick to get frustrated or discouraged if the meal is lean. But they never think of praying that God would work in and through their pastor. They never place their pastor in God’s hands. They never carry the burden in intercession. What a tragedy! And then they “kick” the pastor when he doesn’t measure up - without considering their own failure to pray. Remember, God spoke through a donkey. Don’t kick the donkey, please! Instead, tune your ear to what the Spirit may be saying to you. There are many serious flaws in our religious system. But that is not a reason to neglect prayer for the minister. I have seen God speak amazing truths on Sunday mornings - even through ministers whom I felt were not at all qualified to preach, or were not even born-again. There have been times when I would be jolted in my pew with a powerful word that I know could only have come from the Spirit. Once I was called to a church that had a minister who was ill and emotionally troubled, but he wouldn’t resign. The people were frustrated. I prayed for him, and then congregation told me how much his preaching suddenly improved. However, they were still too focused on the vessel, so I suggested that they listen to what God is speaking to them through the vessel, and pray for him. They had never thought about doing that. When we invest our own precious time praying for someone, it’s amazing how less prone we are to criticize that person. Instead, love grows. Why not pray for your pastor - that God will put thoughts, illustrations, helpful memories, scriptures etc into his/her mind even as he goes about the weekly duties. Pray that he would have quiet solitary times. Pray that God draw him to Himself. We can also pray that the hearts of the congregation will be willing to receive God’s truths. When I give prayer its proper emphasis, God often shares the same scriptures or ideas that he gives the minister. What a joy it is to hear the very thoughts birthed in the sermon on Sunday that were conceived through intercession. It is truly an honor to bear the burden. But I have to admit that the flesh resists. I often feel so very weak in spirit. It’s no surprise that God first speaks to me about myself. He exposes my own unrighteousness – wrong thoughts, attitudes, etc. And he draws me to his word. That is part of the process of intercession, I guess – to offer myself on the alter. I cannot begin to share the many blessings that have come from it over the past 10 years since God first called me to this. God is full of surprises. God can do the impossible. In fact, he specializes in the impossible. Do you believe that? Diane

sermonindex Feb 27, 2006

Hia Diane,You are blessed if you have a good shepherd around.I can't relate on this front, as for some reason, I'm not under anyone but my husband right now and I miss the days when I had a Pastor who was older than me and had common sense and the Spirit of the Lord used him in the gifts of discernment and words straight from God.He just retired I hear, up in N.J. last year. I haven't sat under his preaching since '79 and I haven't met another one like him since. :cry: You could intercede that I will meet someone down here, where I live now that is like my old Pastor. It could even be a lady friend who is older than me but lives near-by and has the gifts that my old pastor had.He could look right through you and the Lord would tell him if you needed help or whatever.I miss that very much.I have lots of "friends" and never wanted for that, but even if they have the gifts, well, at least one I knows does, but she won't tell me anything about me. She only says good things, but I want someone who will look right through me into my insides. Do you know what I mean ?I was new to my Church I told you about above and had just got out of the military when I went there and gone through a very rough experience just before I got out.Anyhow, the Pastor would shake hands with folks on their way out, and when he shook my hand, he said, "If you'd like an appt to talk, call and make one." There was so much love in that man and the Sunday before, the Lord spoke to my heart that "this Pastor is going to help you." ... so when he asked me that, I almost fell over. I was amazed because no one even knew me in that Church nor had I ever spoken to him. Neat ?I made the appt. and he ministered to the trauma I had been through, just by talking to me like he knew me. I felt so whole after that. I used to take care of sheep and now isn't that what a shepherd would do ? Anyhow, I mostly wanted to say, I liked this line you added, though I personally cannot 'presently' relate to the rest.I think if I could, I'd attend a Church like RonBs. I like the concept of how they run their fellowship. I just read about how they do it tonite on one of the older threads.But here's the line I liked from what you wrote ..."When we invest our own precious time praying for someone, it’s amazing how less prone we are to criticize that person."So true.Well, I'm obviously still awake and had this last ounce of drivel left in me.Thank you for letting me expend it on your thread. :-? M.E. Tired but wired.The brain makes up for what the body can't do with it's energy. Phewy, I do need prayer.Thanks !!!Annie

R
roadsign Feb 27, 2006

I think if I could, I'd attend a Church like...There is a lot to digest in your post, Annie, and I will do that later. But for now I say that the spirit of my words relate to many other areas in life - pray for those who have influence over us, and let God work through them in the way he wishes. We live in a culture that believes in shopping: church shopping, spouse shopping, forum shopping, etc etc. We are accustomed to that kind of "freedom". But ultimately we find ourselves committed in some way and we can't just change the people who "call the shots" to make the situation suit us. We need to learn the value of prayer. Many around don't have a choice in what church they attend. There are no churches, or maybe there is only one church in their area. Most do not have the where-with-all to start their own church. They are in some way dependents on powers beyond their control. Really we all are in some way. I went through a time of un-churching - about the same time that Chip Brogden did. (I occasionally post his articles here) We shared together on a forum back then. Since those days, I view church very differently - not as a place to go because I like it, and it is ideal, but primarily to be an intercessor - to stand in the gap and plead to God on behalf of the people. I don't need good preaching, yet I hear some good words spoken that bless me. There are many venues in which to grow in our spiritual lives and our relationships. This forum is one here - and some of us are called to pray for the mods. It is no less church just because it is in cyberspace. must go..... (PS I can so relate to tired body, wired brain.... been there... )Diane

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crsschk Feb 27, 2006

There are many venues in which to grow in our spiritual lives and our relationships. This forum is one here - and some of us are called to pray for the mods. It is no less church just because it is in cyberspace. The truth and appreciation of this...

sermonindex Feb 27, 2006

Notice the time I wrote that ? Hmmm. My,my.Anyhow, I just posted on the "Tongues" thread last nite (last nite to me, means this morning for Normal people) about this Forum and what I think about it. But to encapsulate it ... this "is" Church to me, so yes, the burden to pray for these guys has been very heavy since day one.But they can't see me. And that is what I'm trying to say, about "pray for me that I'll find either an older Pastor type or just an older sister in the Lord with discernment and that I can sit under from time to time as I'm physically able" .... you see ?We were "in" the Ministry for so many years ... but people who are in the Ministry, don't often have someone over them or older than them or one who can bring a 'word' to them etc. I don't know if I'm explaining this as I'd like or that makes sense to anyone else.I was asking for prayer, to find that pastorly type or older saint/sister whatever that can 'see' what we've been through and what's needed when needed. God Knows and I reckon, that's all that really matters here anyways ... right ? Right.Thanks and go with God.Annie

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