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I need deliverance from... Anger, unforgiveness, bitterness...

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dougkristen Feb 28, 2006

Has anyone ever struggled or wrestled in their lives with these issues of unforgiveness, bitterness and anger? God has been doing much in my life to rid me of the junk in my soul and this is the one remaining giant that I need to kill before it kills me. I am confessing this because this is the place to start. I am seeking your prayers as I seek the Lord for deliverance in this area. Any books, articles, sermons, scriptures, etc. would be greatful to help me meditate as I seek the Lord in this area.Doug

sermonindex Feb 28, 2006

Will be praying for you brother Doug.You've taken the first step, and that's a great thing. Those three things you mention are three seperate things, though connected and I think we all see at least one of them in ourselves from time to time ... if not alot at times.Prayer and The Word is all I could say and the prayers of others for you ... so that God gets all the glory.These are tough cookies to break and yes, I think the most of us struggle with them. We should pray one for another on these, because I don't know anyone who hasn't faced these.Do you think learning forgiveness might be first on our lists ?Yes, pray one for another on this. Amen.Annie too

sermonindex Feb 28, 2006

Oh my, I forgot to say that God's positives negate the negatives.I don't know, but when I focus on just my negatives and try to conquer them, I get deeper in a ditch of despair if I don't let God's positive push out and replace the negative.What I'm trying to say is, IF we focus on His Love and asking Him to show us His Love so that we Love others with His love, it 'does' seem to cover a multitude of sin in others and if we focus on others than we forget our own selfish needs or whatever causes our negatives.I think that is why Love is the fulfilling of all the law and the prophets and there are so many verses on it from Deut on to Rev.Pray one for another and love one another.Thanks Doug. :-)

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deltadom Feb 28, 2006

I think we all need deliverance Dom

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philologos Feb 28, 2006

I am confessing this...I think you are on the right track here. :-) if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness 1 John 1:9 This is a wonderful verse... one single thing for me to do and then the whole issue becomes entirely God's responsibility.

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dohzman Feb 28, 2006

John Bevere has a really good book dealing with this very issue called "Bait of Satan". I believe every believer should read it at about the 3rd year of thier christian walk. By then we have all been offended enough to really appreciate what he deals with in that book and some of the practical suggestions he makes reference to. I always go back to the scripture in Peter where he says that others in the faith have suffered in like manner, so we know that we'er not alone. Nobodies exempt :-( how ever that means others have overcome and you will too :-) God Bless, you'll have my prayers. bro. Daryl

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nacl Mar 1, 2006

I just preached this past Friday on the subject of getting free from the bondage of sin, so let me break out the outline....First, confession is good. Confessing to God is crucial, as has been pointed out, and confessing our faults to each other is very helpful (James 5:16). You have done that, which means you're on the way.You must take God at His word (thanks MeAgain!). The word of God is truth (John 17:17) and the truth shall make us free (John 8:32). You can take hold of the promises of God, but you have to know them and believe that our Lord is faithful to keep them.Jesus already overcame the world (John 16:33). That includes the sins that you/we are struggling with, anger, bitterness, etc. How do we partake of Christ's overcoming? Our faith (1 John 5:4)!! That's how we appropriate victory over sin.My last note is that we have to commit ourselves and our sinful habits to God. In 2 Timothy 1:12, Paul lets us know that God is able to keep what we commit to His care. Ravi Zacharias points out that He is not responsible for what we keep to ourselves or try to handle in our own power.If we try to take care of sin by ourselves, we will fail. We need the power of God, the victory that our Savior already wrought, to overcome sin. Or rather, we need to let God overcome the sin in us.Our old man, our sinful nature, is already crucified with Christ (Romans 6:6), but we have a tendency to cling to its corpse rather than reckon ourselves dead to sin (Romans 6:11), knowing that no good thing dwells in the flesh (Romans 7:18).God can free us!! As has been stated by everyone else, let us pray one for another, that God will be glorified in delivering His people from anything unlike His beautiful Self!Your brother in the struggle,D.

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Tears_of_joy Mar 2, 2006

Hi brother,I have been greatly blessed by George H. Warnock , I have heard just two sermons by him, but many times. The one is A Way Through the Wilderness , he is talking about bitterness. Anointed sermon!God bless,Kire

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roadsign Mar 2, 2006

Has anyone ever struggled or wrestled in their lives with these issues of unforgiveness, bitterness and anger? These are common struggles, for sure. There is always a reason. They don't just arise out of the blue. I sure wouldn't want to give you any advice. Even a professional counselor would ask a lot more questions before making any suggestions. I guess the challenge is to keep on learning about yourself. Freedom from these besetting troubles requires sacrifice - like letting go of vengeance, letting yourself be wronged, letting parents off the hook for their wrongs.... accepting past losses just to name a few possibilities...Maybe something here is helpful: Why are you angry?Diane

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dougkristen Mar 2, 2006

If we try to take care of sin by ourselves, we will fail. We need the power of God, the victory that our Savior already wrought, to overcome sin. Or rather, we need to let God overcome the sin in us.All of this has been so great and very helpful. I have been seeking God and He has been revealing some more areas in my life I have to give over to Him.Doug

sermonindex Mar 2, 2006

Hi doug,As Diane said, there could be more questions before advice be given, but, I can testify of my own experience of God's leadings.When I realised I was angry, I knew it was because of having been abused. I agree with the verse philologos quoted, in that it is right to remember that God has taken responsibility for all our SIN. However, if one is angry because of sins committed against oneself, then that anger will do damage of itself; simply containing it, is harmful - in a sort of self-harming way.... at the same time as recognising that Anger does need to be contained, so that it doesn't harm others..When I began to FEEL my anger, I knew I would have to give it to God, and eventually, in a moment of desperation, (because I thought I would go berserk if I didn't deal with it somehow - and then I'd need to be seriously sedated - ) He came to me immediately, and began to take it. It was a Sunday, and I soon felt as if I could hardly speak, and a strange, new pain appeared within my being; slowly, over a period of hours, God took the pain and a completely clean fresh spirit rose up from the depths of my being - literally like a line as straight as a ruler could have been drawn across my body. Eventually, the last bit of pain disappeared up through the top of my head; after that, I felt I was in touch with my anger, and it was only relevant anger - not unweildy or out of control - and most of all, it was not present all the time. As my history of being angry went back to my early childhood, this was a big deal!On forgiveness, I've really struggled, because I think I needed to find God's forgiveness for myself, first. Then, strengthened by the healing which accompanies forgiveness, forgiving others has been properly possible. I know many people believe that forgiveness is a key to many freedoms, and the only sense I can make of this is that it may well be, if a person is holding things against another person in a resentful way. For me, I was more boggled in my mind by the sheer magnitude of the sins which had been committed against me, and the Lord knew I needed to be healed of those, in order to grow up into a place of emotional wholeness, before I had the capacity to forgive in a meaningful way. I think we all know what God is doing with us, and when we hear the word of God to our understanding, we have no alternative to obey it...Recently, I noticed that Jesus said 'FATHER, forgive them, for they ....' This has comforted me greatly, as I had been able to forgive on the strength of knowing that forgiveness is offered to every sinner.... but the Lord knew that was my limit. I could not 'feel' the dynamic change which is supposed to occur when a person forgives another (even if the other person is not involved at all..... In fact, that was another aspect of my difficulty with forgiveness, in that I'd been brought up to associate it with reconciliation.) It has been helpful - nay, necessary - for me to be able to separate forgiveness and reconciliation, because reconciliation is only possible when the person being forgiven is able to acknowledge their fault in such a way that in principle at very least, they intend not to keep repeating the harmful action against you.(NKJV) Hebrews 12:13 make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be [dislocated,] but rather be healed. Young's Literal13 and straight paths make for your feet, that that which is lame may not be turned aside, but rather be healed; 14 peace pursue with all, and the separation, apart from which no one shall see the Lord, 15 looking diligently over lest any one be failing of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up may give trouble, and through this many may be defiled; 'the separation' is a much more practical and un-intimidating form of words, than 'holiness', which appears in other translations.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2006

Brother DouglasEvery person who is a true believer has some thing thats in their life that seems to continually crop up.The LORD knows your needs before you even pray. He is working in your life, and working behind the scenes. When He does work behind the scenes, it's discouraging because we do not see any changes. Yet He continues to work because your continuing to believe.There is nothing wrong with anger, when misplaced or acted upon it can be deadly. Anger can be healthy, but if it leads to rage and abuse than your in trouble.Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath.What you need to ask God for is not to take away the anger, but to help you put it under submission, so that instead of it controlling you, your controlling it.This is something that you will need to work on because the load resides on your end. That simply means that when it comes time for you to make the choice not to give into anger, this is where the LORD will take your load, but if you give into it, than your not ready to be delivered and you'll suffer with this thing for a little while longer.Let me give you an example.I worked in a Bakery where I worked nights, and I enjoyed my time alone during the night. But sometimes my employer would show up sometime in the night and I would just cringe when she came thru the door. She was a religous woman, very staunch, and she hated the F word. I had some major anger problems in those days and I was seeking the LORD to help me in this area. One night, she came thru the door. I was just taking bread out of the oven. The sequence of events were unbelievable. Here I was my arms in the oven, she's coming thru the door and I seared my arm in the oven, and my anger flared up. It was sitting there ready to be acted upon, when I heard the voice of the LORD say, "You can keep quiet, or you can give in to it". Now remember all this is happening within just a few seconds. I just burned my arm, my employer was coming thru the door, and I hear the voice of the LORD, guess what I did?I Let out the F word, loud and clear for her to hear. I lived with that anger and swearing for 6 months, until I got so sick of myself than I got delivered. Because another moment presented itself, and I choice to be quiet. There have been other time of anger, but it wasn't as bad as what I used to be, I mean I was a bad cookie. We live and learn.I hope this helps some Doug.

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wsbg May 1, 2006

Dear Dohzman, About the "Bait of Satan" by John Bevere: I bought the book your are talking about; I picked up the 10th anniversary edition for about $15 CAD. You were the one who convinced me to purchase this. But I've had to throw it out. Some of its editions have a forward by Benny Hinn, a false prophet. I was really looking forward to the book but I simply will not read material promoted by Benny Hinn in such a way that Benny adds a forward note to readers in books other authors have published.For more information about Benny Hinn's false prophecies you may see the following sites:http://www.pfo.org/bhnecro.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hinnhttp://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/tbn.htmhttp://www.apologeticsindex.org/h01.html

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fixerupper May 2, 2006

Hi Doug,I think it is really critical to understand how people work, think, feel, relate, etc. so that we both can appreciate others for who they are (albeit imperfect, they are created uniquely, different from you, yet still in God's image), and so our expectations are set correctly. I have no idea what your background and experiences are, but I believe strongly that, besides the root sins of selfishness and pride that are embedded more deeply in our hearts than we thought possible, ignorance in the form of misunderstanding and unmet expectations can cause great frustration, anger, mistrust, etc.I highly recommend books that, from a Biblical base, teach you about yourself, and about others, on a deep level. Here are a few I can remember the titles of. I'm sure there are likely some wise, experienced, godly believers that you know that could recommend others.1) "Inside Out", by Dr. Larry Crabb (a must read, in my opinion, for any believer)2) "Understanding How Others Misunderstand You", by Ken R. Voges and Ron Braund3) "The Man in the Mirror" and others in the Man in the Mirror series, by Patrick Morley4) "The Five Love Languages" (several books, I think) by Gary ChapmanThere are SO many good books... but sometimes it is best to find a mature, loving, older Christian brother (e.g. a Pastor of Discipleship, or counselor) to talk with. I also recommend keeping music that focuses you on God in a way that helps the "you" run out of you, and the "Him" fill you up and soften your heart. My personal recommendation is almost anything by Twila Paris; her music SO honors God; I can't listen to it without being softened and my focus turned toward Him who life is all about.You are in my prayers; please pray, yourself, for others like you that have troubles with the same things.

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ginnyrose May 2, 2006

Doug,Many here have given you wonderful suggestions and to this mix I would like to add a testimony or two.I used to have a terrible problem with evil imaginations. I looked high and low for solutions to overcome this besetting sin. I read all the articles I could that would teach me what to do to gain victory. The methods floated work...for a time and that was all: soon I was back in it as bad as ever. In the meantime,I was praying about this, crying on my knees before God. Then one day, the LORD so graciously delivered me and I think I will not say what happened except to say I had to cooperate with Him. Since then I have had no more problem. Tempted? Yes, but it no longer had the hold on me as it did before.Another testimony: one of my clients at CPC was a cocaine or crack addict - I forget which - and she wanted help. In the course of the conversation she told me how in the past she had kicked the habit and how? By staying close to the LORD! As long as she stayed there, it did not tempt her!Doug, many can give you methods that may work for some time to help you overcome, but many methods will depend on your own strength to implement them. God is God and only in his mercy and strength can this be overcome. In my case I had to get to the position where I was completely broken, knowing I was TOTALLY helpless to fend for myself. Only then could God help me and I suggest this to be the case for you.Talk to the LORD and listen to his voice. Above all be obedient to it. Disobedience will derail any deliverance He will have for you. There is no shortcut!Blessings,ginnyrose

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