Attn all scrutinizing bible experts!

Hey all, With this "Free bible college" link on the left, I think it would help so many on SI heaps. The question is: Is it biblically sound? Well, I don't have a thorough knowledge of the bible (yet) - well not enough to pick out subtle problems. So, if anyone feels like have a look at what this bible college teaches, try their first course: OT Survery (pdf). Also, they have a statement of docrine too. Some feedback for & from other SI members would be great, this could be something that heaps of us benifit from - provided what it teaches biblically sound. :-)

MeAgain wrote:Sound doctrine ? Isn't that a divisive word ?Aren't people who desire or seek sound doctrine arrogant or something ?Doesn't sound doctrine bring division in the Body ? Aren't we not to be so nit-picky and eat from every pasture out there ?And Lord knows, if you've studied to try to stay sound, what will the others say about you coops ?Don't you know that earnestly seeking sound doctrine is going against the flow or revivals and phenomena and the such ?Why can't we all just get along and throw that term sound doctrine out ? O.K. ?But if none of this above appeals to you, congratulations brother and I'd PM RobertW and ask him to look at it for you.The end of my 2 cents about things.Love you coop.Anny, what you said worries me. do you not know that Doctrin is this sword that Jesus is talking about here: Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the world. No, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."Why do you think Jesus said Rev 2:15 So has thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.Please rethink your stance on this, or you will open yourself up to very bad things.The sword or doctrin is what divides.So doctrin is a divisive word but those who desire or seek sound doctrine are not arrogant but wise. Sound doctrine brings division in the Body by weeding out the hericies.Aren't we not to be so nit-picky and eat from every pasture out there ?I will be nit-picky, but you can eat from Benny Hinns' or Kenneth Copplands' pasture if you want and I will shun that doctrine.Don't you know that earnestly seeking sound doctrine is going against the flow or revivals and phenomena and the such ?Are you saying that the "laughing revival" and those that came from it like the Toronto Airport Vineyard revival or Brownsville or the Pensicola are valled? They weren't earnestly seeking sound doctrine.The way we get along is by the unity of the Holy Spirit.Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.1Ti 1:10 for the immoral, for sexual perverts, for kidnappers, for those who lie and give false testimony or who do anything else contrary to sound doctrine.2Ti 4:3 The time will come when people will not listen to sound doctrine, but will follow their own desires and will collect for themselves more and more teachers who will tell them what they are itching to hear. Tit 2:1 But you must teach what agrees with sound doctrine.

bro logici think sis annie was being sarcastic...

I love you Annie! I caught your sarcasm and meaning. But sarcasm can be very dangerous. As servants of God we need to be cautious that we say what we mean and mean what we say. I pray that others did not get the wrong idea from your words.Jeff

Oh, sorry, I feel stupid. I was wondring then why she added that last sentance then,because that was the sarcastic sounding part. It would relieve me if she was. it realy bothered me that a true christian would think that way.It also reminded me of the sinners favorite bible quote "don't judge". Sound doctrine makes us judge useing His Word for the basis of the judgment that we use, and that comes from sound doctrine.

I scanned through the outline of it's OT Survey, and personally found it to be a little weak. For example, it talks about "the day of the Lord" as used by the OT prophets, and automatically links is with the 7 year tribulation period, when in fact the OT prophets used the phrase "the day of the Lord" mostly to describe impending destruction coming upon whatever city they were prophesying against.Also, the author of this document seemed to view the Song of Songs in a much more allegorical fashion (e.g. As a symbol of the relationship between Christ and His Church). Frankly, though this is a valid interpretation of the Song of Solomon, it is hardly the main purpose of the writing. Song of Songs is frankly about a hot romantic relationship between a husband and wife. One ought not push the allegorical interpretation too far. I'd say in general, this "school" looks like it is "ok" at best. You'd probably be better off getting an OT Survey book of some sort. This OT survey outline doesn't even touch on some very important issues. It seems like it's simply a "look up these verses" type survey, which really isn't much of a survey. The more I look at the survey, it looks oversimplistic.A better OT survey book would at least give you some basic background information and such. This survey seems like something you might find in a sunday school, not a bible school.I say this with having a B.A. in Christian Ministry and a concentration in Biblical Studies, as well as currently going through 6 classes at seminary.

Also, their doctrinal stance is typical conservative and evangelical. They call themselves "spirit-filled" which can be interpreted in different ways depending on if you are S. Baptist or Pentecostal. I would guess they lean towards a more Charismatic/Pentecostal mindset, though I don't see anything that says such for sure.

In other words, they dont believe we have the divine Word of God today... which is code for "use whatever version you like". I have some real issues with the Modern Versions.Or in otherwords, they are not "King James Only."

From what i've done, (just started last week) the OT survey seems like a skim over of the entire bible. I think it can be very helpful as a guide and a suppliment for reading through the entire bible which is the main porpose of this survey as stated in chap 2. I havent been able to find many colleges that offer free bible classes, and as long as their doctrine seems to be solid on the key points, and they are supporting this awesome ministry I believe i will use them(thought i know some a yall dont like them newer versions). sorry if this doesnt follow good grammer i'm kinda tired and my grammers not doin to good today. anyways have a good one

MeAgain wrote:But I did sorta hoped that you knew me at least a little better than that :-) .Love and All His Best.AnnieI thought I did to. That is what fliped me out, I was thinking that I couldn't believe what I was reading from you. I guess I'm just not good at discerning sarchasm in writing.But, to get back on the subject "Attn. all scrutinizing bible experts!"scru·ti·nize (skrūt'n-īz'):tr.v., -nized, -niz·ing, -niz·es.1) To examine or observe with great care; inspect critically.2) To study or analyze:3) to look at critically or searchingly, or in minute detail.I don't know if I could call myself an expert, but I would love to be one someday.

Wow that was an active thread... You had me scared too with that sarcasm :P Oh well, glad it's cleared up!Thanks for your comments on the OT survey. I thought it might have been a bit simple, but have no experience with this sort of thing so I had to make sure. However, a lot of people won't be able to delve deeply into many issues. Many dont have the literary or intellectual capacity. I have friends who would love this simpleness, and get confused by matthew henry. (thats not to say they are simple, they are just extreemly practical!!) In the end, it matters little unless we put it all into practice eh? :)So maybe the best way for someone who wants to delve deeply into the bible, is to do this course with a suppliment. In other words, they can use this course as an overview and introduction to different things, and where teaching is sparse or not concise, they may look up commentaries and other study books specific to the issue they are investigating. What do you think? :-)

In other words, they dont believe we have the divine Word of God today... which is code for "use whatever version you like". I have some real issues with the Modern Versions.No it isn't and you malign them to suggest it.Other than some folk we have had on here who think the KJV is more inspired than the Greek... almost all conservative evangelicals would take this position. They are just saying that we do not have the autographs (originals) and that these were divinely inspired. I have some 'real issues with modern versions' too but the remedy to abuse is 'right use' not 'non-use'.